Biden asks Opec to produce more oil !

[Ray From Cleveland]

You have forgotten that the price of gas was high before the pandemic and during the trump years.

It never hit $3.00 on the national level and that included during the best economy we had in 50 years. It's over $3.00 a gallon now, and over $4.00 in some places.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't know, but I believe that we should make the effort. The Grifter trump, who I believe had dementia, wanted the status quo so that he could continue to line his and his donors pockets.

Yeah, all that money Trump made.

Trump's personal fortune has shrunk by $1B since his presidential bid

Some wealthy patrons are steering clear of Trump properties, saying the country club experience is now ruined "by metal detectors and bomb-sniffing dogs."

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So you think its a "smart" idea to plunge the world into 50 years of destitution and poverty in the hope that Biden's policies will somehow change the weather? You do know there is no proof the Biden Approach will work at all?

It doesn't matter if it works or not, as long as they feel better about it even if we spend trillions more.

I can't help but to think of the future after we're off this planet. I see a teacher telling her class that back in the early 2000's, man thought that they could change the climate, and the class bust out in laughter the way we did when our teacher told us man thought the earth was flat, and if you walk too far, you'll fall off.

 

[justoffal]

There are no shortages so why should anyone produce more?

That's not exactly true.

 

[pknopp]

That's not exactly true.

And yet you aren't able to explain why.

 

[Polishprince]

I don't know, but I believe that we should make the effort. The Grifter trump, who I believe had dementia, wanted the status quo so that he could continue to line his and his donors pockets.

Why make a pointless and futile effort at all?

Wouldn't it be better just to be ready to adjust, if and when the weather does change?

Instead of sinking resources and ruining the economy over an unproven scheme?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Anything we do about that will cost, but what are the alternatives? To continue along the path that we are currently traveling is not an option. Again, we can reduce the effect or slow the process but not stop it at this point. Are you one of those trump supporters who said that climate change was a crock of bullshit? We know that it was trump's viewpoint because it is all about increasing money in his pocket
and the current setup did just that.

Bankrupting the people of this country is not an alternative. Folks cry all the time about how much harder it is to live today financially than it was 40 years ago. How much of our money hidden in these products or services went to green? Of course it's harder to live today.

I never said that climate change was a crock of anything. The climate is changing. and it's been changing since the day God made the place. It was changing a million years ago, and if this planet is still here by then, will be changing a million years from today. Why do you think they gave up on Global Warming? Because once evidence came out that it wasn't warming, they had no reason to push their commie agendas. So they switched it over to climate change because as I pointed out, the climate always has and always will change, so there is no possible way to prove them wrong like we did with global warming.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Just think of all these Environmental Wacko companies that are going to make a ton of money because of the stupid Democrat wacko policies, like putting in thousands of EV charging station all over the country at tax payers expense. All done under union contracts.

If you want to drive one of these stupid EVs you should have have to pay for your own charging station.

Solyndra on a massive scale.

These Moon Bats were absolute idiots voing for this Joe Dufus scumbag.

Kinda like that frog happily swimming around in the pot of cold water on top of the stove.

Politicians (particularly Democrats) have been wanting more and more control over the people. To some degree they've been very successful. The only two vestiges left to gain total control is energy and healthcare. Once government can get total control over those two entities, they will have total control over us.

Unfortunately for them they can't march in with the military and takeover our hospitals and energy plants. They need the people to offer it to them. They need the people to beg them to takeover these things for us.

As Jesus Christ once said "Forgive them Lord, they know not what they do."

 

[bripat9643]

Anything we do about that will cost, but what are the alternatives? To continue along the path that we are currently traveling is not an option. Again, we can reduce the effect or slow the process but not stop it at this point. Are you one of those trump supporters who said that climate change was a crock of bullshit? We know that it was trump's viewpoint because it is all about increasing money in his pocket
and the current setup did just that.

There is no "effect," moron. Global warming is a scam. AGW is all abot putting money in the pockets of government employees.

 

[Bobob]

Why make a pointless and futile effort at all?

Wouldn't it be better just to be ready to adjust, if and when the weather does change?

Instead of sinking resources and ruining the economy over an unproven scheme?

Pointless? Scheme? Really?

 

[Polishprince]

Pointless? Scheme? Really?

If environmentalist activists would give us a price for their ideas as well as what exactly the benefit they are guaranteeing for it, it wouldn't be a scheme. Just a plan where people could weigh the costs and benefits and decide whether its worth the expenditure. Till then, its just a hopeful scheme.

 

[Bobob]

The whole world must get involved to just make a dent in the climate change if it exists. The people pushing it are snake oil salesmen. Weather is not exact. Weather changes do happen. There are 8 billion people on the planet. Many living in areas where there is potential of issues. And rich nations like us are controlled by insane environmentalists. We need to tame nature as much as we can and keep the environment making a balance. California should not have as many wildfires, brown outs and water problems. That is political.

The US is not controlled by "insane" environmentalists. Many people who propose changes in the way we live are simply realists. It's political that California has wildfires, brown outs and water problems?
No.

 

[Polishprince]

The US is not controlled by "insane" environmentalists. Many people who propose changes in the way we live are simply realists. It's political that California has wildfires, brown outs and water problems?
No.

How much will those changes costs, and how much will they change the climate and how long will it take? And how about how we will PAY for it.

 

[Bobob]

How much will those changes costs, and how much will they change the climate and how long will it take? And how about how we will PAY for it.

As the environment collapses around us, how much will we have to pay for that? The environment will certainly improve with some goosing. Oh fuck it. Let our grandchildren worry about it.

 

[Polishprince]

As the environment collapses around us, how much will we have to pay for that? The environment will certainly improve with some goosing. Oh fuck it. Let our grandchildren worry about it.

Why do you expect people to cut you a blank check with no amount of improvement even mentioned much less promised? That's what makes it a scheme.

Go back to the drawing board and come up with an actual proposal.

 

[Bobob]

Why do you expect people to cut you a blank check with no amount of improvement even mentioned much less promised? That's what makes it a scheme.

Go back to the drawing board and come up with an actual proposal.

First, we have to agree that climate change is not a hoax so that corrective efforts can be made
to control it somewhat. I see many trumpeciles are finally in agreement and will now pay attention to the changes that officials want to put in place.
You will be writing a blank check as climate change becomes a monster in your hip pocket, yes?

 

[Bobob]

How much will those changes costs, and how much will they change the climate and how long will it take? And how about how we will PAY for it.

And how are we going to pay for the disaster that climate change will be responsible for?

 

[surada]

It never hit $3.00 on the national level and that included during the best economy we had in 50 years. It's over $3.00 a gallon now, and over $4.00 in some places.

Rig count increased 44% during the Obama years because the ppb was high. That spurs investment in drilling and exploration.

 

[22lcidw]

The US is not controlled by "insane" environmentalists. Many people who propose changes in the way we live are simply realists. It's political that California has wildfires, brown outs and water problems?
No.

We conquered a continent. Most people lived with comforts. Now we wipe its ass. you want to live with nature. The live with it without the comforts. And a massive population reduction.

 

[Polishprince]

And how are we going to pay for the disaster that climate change will be responsible for?

That's actually a good question as well.

How much will the disaster of climate change cost to deal with- and when will the money become due?

That is a key question that environmentalist activists don't know the answer to either or refuse to answer.

No way to assess what a good investment in Climate Change is, until the cost that is being avoided can be forecast, and the price of a adjustments is known.