Biden Requests 20% Increase in Budget

I’ll ask again. Why is anyone paying taxes? There’s obviously no link between revenue and spending. Just print more money!


just like Venezuela did.
>just like Venezuela did.

It's only a matter of time until Biden proposes sending them some US taxpayer money.

Trump would have sent in Exxon to help them out. They have the largest proven oil reserves in the world, have the potential to be very rich, but their people are starving because of Socialism.

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We really need a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution.
A balanced budget amendment wouldn't be practical unless it included a clause to suspend it under emergency situations. That aside, we wouldn't need a balanced budget amendment if the American people took their heads out of their asses and stopped voting for these people.
And you think that it's the voter's fault when the fact remains that the media is supposed to act as watchdogs for the voters?
If journalists are being bribed or threatened into acting as advocates or censoring news, then the real truth rarely sees the light of day.
It doesn’t take a PhD to look up votes on the Internet. Stop making excuses for peoples laziness and lethargy
 

We really need a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution.
A balanced budget amendment wouldn't be practical unless it included a clause to suspend it under emergency situations. That aside, we wouldn't need a balanced budget amendment if the American people took their heads out of their asses and stopped voting for these people.
And you think that it's the voter's fault when the fact remains that the media is supposed to act as watchdogs for the voters?
If journalists are being bribed or threatened into acting as advocates or censoring news, then the real truth rarely sees the light of day.
It doesn’t take a PhD to look up votes on the Internet. Stop making excuses for peoples laziness and lethargy
I think my point went over your head.
Maybe you need to Google ethics in journalism....and crack a book on how journalism is the unofficial fourth branch of government.

If you have trouble finding it...here's a link you might want to look at. The Role Journalism Plays In Society

"Citizens depend on journalists to report the fair truth and to maintain an unbiased opinion. The role of a journalist is to facilitate democracy and it is important to establish who a journalist is for credibility and professional purposes. We live in a world where clickbait is considered a form of "journalism," when the press used to be of huge importance a century ago. Society is making it harder for journalists to remain credible. The world needs journalists because they are committed to finding truth and protecting citizens."
 
Well, I'm not on Joe's spending bandwagon, but this is sort of the issue in infrastructure negotiations. While Biden needs sixty for a spending bill, he can raise taxes with fifty. I don't know that Machin and Sienna are going to protect McConnell's signiture legislative accomplishment of the Trump years, which was also what he got for sacraficing any integrity he still had from Garland.
How about a 33% salary cut for all Federal white collar workers and nobody in Congress nor White House gets more than $1 a year.
To live within our means is a lot of water thrown into a face to realize. In the end without doing these things most may not have anything.
Living within your means, is never a concern for you all, UNLESS it is a Democrat president....

You over spend like there is no tomorrow, without a peep of concern, when it is a Republican president....when the Republican president cuts taxes for the rich, while adding 2 trillion in budget overspending.....No problem!!!

That's why threads like this are just meaningless, a joke....we know your game...
 
Well, I'm not on Joe's spending bandwagon, but this is sort of the issue in infrastructure negotiations. While Biden needs sixty for a spending bill, he can raise taxes with fifty. I don't know that Machin and Sienna are going to protect McConnell's signiture legislative accomplishment of the Trump years, which was also what he got for sacraficing any integrity he still had from Garland.
How about a 33% salary cut for all Federal white collar workers and nobody in Congress nor White House gets more than $1 a year.
To live within our means is a lot of water thrown into a face to realize. In the end without doing these things most may not have anything.
Living within your means, is never a concern for you all, UNLESS it is a Democrat president....

You over spend like there is no tomorrow, without a peep of concern, when it is a Republican president....when the Republican president cuts taxes for the rich, while adding 2 trillion in budget overspending.....No problem!!!

That's why threads like this are just meaningless, a joke....we know your game...
Civics 101: Congress creates the budget.
That’s why Clinton and Obummer had the best revenue to spending ratios - Republicans in charge.
 
I’ll ask again. Why is anyone paying taxes? There’s obviously no link between revenue and spending. Just print more money!

democrats are tax and spend type. Way better than republicans figuring out where the money will come from.
Dont know how that old fool plans to pay for that though!
The Answer is that he doesn't intend for the money to be paid back---he is simply trying to increase his kickbacks as quick as possible knowing LONG TERM really isn't a concern of his.
 
Well, I'm not on Joe's spending bandwagon, but this is sort of the issue in infrastructure negotiations. While Biden needs sixty for a spending bill, he can raise taxes with fifty. I don't know that Machin and Sienna are going to protect McConnell's signiture legislative accomplishment of the Trump years, which was also what he got for sacraficing any integrity he still had from Garland.
How about a 33% salary cut for all Federal white collar workers and nobody in Congress nor White House gets more than $1 a year.
To live within our means is a lot of water thrown into a face to realize. In the end without doing these things most may not have anything.
Living within your means, is never a concern for you all, UNLESS it is a Democrat president....

You over spend like there is no tomorrow, without a peep of concern, when it is a Republican president....when the Republican president cuts taxes for the rich, while adding 2 trillion in budget overspending.....No problem!!!

That's why threads like this are just meaningless, a joke....we know your game...
You're absolutely correct, when Republicans are in charge and spend recklessly, the Republican faithful throw their principles right out the window and either remain silent about it or defend the recklessness (usually something along the lines of "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR turn").

Aren't you doing the same thing here though? Are you concerned about the dramatic proposed increases in spending and the mind boggling levels of debt that it would entail? If you are and don't hold your own party accountable, why should you expect Republican partisans to do it? Isn't it all a game of chicken with our national finances that can only end in disaster if one side or the other doesn't come to its senses and start being critical of its own partisans for irresponsibly gambling with EVERYONE'S future?

Or are you ready to admit that your party is no better than the GOP when it comes to handling the purse and holding their own accountable for it?
 
Well, I'm not on Joe's spending bandwagon, but this is sort of the issue in infrastructure negotiations. While Biden needs sixty for a spending bill, he can raise taxes with fifty. I don't know that Machin and Sienna are going to protect McConnell's signiture legislative accomplishment of the Trump years, which was also what he got for sacraficing any integrity he still had from Garland.
How about a 33% salary cut for all Federal white collar workers and nobody in Congress nor White House gets more than $1 a year.
To live within our means is a lot of water thrown into a face to realize. In the end without doing these things most may not have anything.
Living within your means, is never a concern for you all, UNLESS it is a Democrat president....

You over spend like there is no tomorrow, without a peep of concern, when it is a Republican president....when the Republican president cuts taxes for the rich, while adding 2 trillion in budget overspending.....No problem!!!

That's why threads like this are just meaningless, a joke....we know your game...
You're absolutely correct, when Republicans are in charge and spend recklessly, the Republican faithful throw their principles right out the window and either remain silent about it or defend the recklessness (usually something along the lines of "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR turn").

Aren't you doing the same thing here though? Are you concerned about the dramatic proposed increases in spending and the mind boggling levels of debt that it would entail? If you are and don't hold your own party accountable, why should you expect Republican partisans to do it? Isn't it all a game of chicken with our national finances that can only end in disaster if one side or the other doesn't come to its senses and start being critical of its own partisans for irresponsibly gambling with EVERYONE'S future?

Or are you ready to admit that your party is no better than the GOP when it comes to handling the purse and holding their own accountable for it?
What years did a GOP controlled Congress outspend Pelosi?
 
Well, I'm not on Joe's spending bandwagon, but this is sort of the issue in infrastructure negotiations. While Biden needs sixty for a spending bill, he can raise taxes with fifty. I don't know that Machin and Sienna are going to protect McConnell's signiture legislative accomplishment of the Trump years, which was also what he got for sacraficing any integrity he still had from Garland.
How about a 33% salary cut for all Federal white collar workers and nobody in Congress nor White House gets more than $1 a year.
To live within our means is a lot of water thrown into a face to realize. In the end without doing these things most may not have anything.
Living within your means, is never a concern for you all, UNLESS it is a Democrat president....

You over spend like there is no tomorrow, without a peep of concern, when it is a Republican president....when the Republican president cuts taxes for the rich, while adding 2 trillion in budget overspending.....No problem!!!

That's why threads like this are just meaningless, a joke....we know your game...
You're absolutely correct, when Republicans are in charge and spend recklessly, the Republican faithful throw their principles right out the window and either remain silent about it or defend the recklessness (usually something along the lines of "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR turn").

Aren't you doing the same thing here though? Are you concerned about the dramatic proposed increases in spending and the mind boggling levels of debt that it would entail? If you are and don't hold your own party accountable, why should you expect Republican partisans to do it? Isn't it all a game of chicken with our national finances that can only end in disaster if one side or the other doesn't come to its senses and start being critical of its own partisans for irresponsibly gambling with EVERYONE'S future?

Or are you ready to admit that your party is no better than the GOP when it comes to handling the purse and holding their own accountable for it?
What years did a GOP controlled Congress outspend Pelosi?
Thanks for proving my point regarding RE: "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR Turn", one of the two major crime families acting recklessly with the national finances DOES NOT IN ANY WAY JUSTIFY THE OTHER ONE DOING THE SAME THING, never has, never will.

Beyond that how are you calculating what "Pelosi spent"? She's the Speaker of the House and cannot spend money on her own, nor could any Republican speaker of the House. So, what SPECIFIC criteria are you asking me to use to make a meaningful comparison:
  1. Are we adjusting for inflation?
  2. Are we accounting for existing structural spending that's handed off from one Congress to the next by statute?
  3. What about debt service? do we go back and account for debt on a per Congress basis, account for the prevailing interest rates at the time it was borrowed and then transfer the culpability for the debt service to the appropriate Congress?
  4. What about mandatory spending? does that get attributed to the Congress that initiated the program that drove the spending or is it amortized on a cash-out basis to each Congress?
  5. Are we amortizing future unfunded liabilities or are we handling those on a cash-out basis?
  6. What about intra-governmental transfers, are those handled using the federal cash-in, cash-out accounting method or are we using GAAP rules?

.. and lastly after running the accounting exercise using whatever criteria you're going to ask me to use, what numbers did YOU come up with?
 
Well, I'm not on Joe's spending bandwagon, but this is sort of the issue in infrastructure negotiations. While Biden needs sixty for a spending bill, he can raise taxes with fifty. I don't know that Machin and Sienna are going to protect McConnell's signiture legislative accomplishment of the Trump years, which was also what he got for sacraficing any integrity he still had from Garland.
How about a 33% salary cut for all Federal white collar workers and nobody in Congress nor White House gets more than $1 a year.
To live within our means is a lot of water thrown into a face to realize. In the end without doing these things most may not have anything.
Living within your means, is never a concern for you all, UNLESS it is a Democrat president....

You over spend like there is no tomorrow, without a peep of concern, when it is a Republican president....when the Republican president cuts taxes for the rich, while adding 2 trillion in budget overspending.....No problem!!!

That's why threads like this are just meaningless, a joke....we know your game...
You're absolutely correct, when Republicans are in charge and spend recklessly, the Republican faithful throw their principles right out the window and either remain silent about it or defend the recklessness (usually something along the lines of "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR turn").

Aren't you doing the same thing here though? Are you concerned about the dramatic proposed increases in spending and the mind boggling levels of debt that it would entail? If you are and don't hold your own party accountable, why should you expect Republican partisans to do it? Isn't it all a game of chicken with our national finances that can only end in disaster if one side or the other doesn't come to its senses and start being critical of its own partisans for irresponsibly gambling with EVERYONE'S future?

Or are you ready to admit that your party is no better than the GOP when it comes to handling the purse and holding their own accountable for it?
What years did a GOP controlled Congress outspend Pelosi?
Thanks for proving my point regarding RE: "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR Turn", one of the two major crime families acting recklessly with the national finances DOES NOT IN ANY WAY JUSTIFY THE OTHER ONE DOING THE SAME THING, never has, never will.

Beyond that how are you calculating what "Pelosi spent"? She's the Speaker of the House and cannot spend money on her own, nor could any Republican speaker of the House. So, what SPECIFIC criteria are you asking me to use to make a meaningful comparison:
  1. Are we adjusting for inflation?
  2. Are we accounting for existing structural spending that's handed off from one Congress to the next by statute?
  3. What about debt service? do we go back and account for debt on a per Congress basis, account for the prevailing interest rates at the time it was borrowed and then transfer the culpability for the debt service to the appropriate Congress?
  4. What about mandatory spending? does that get attributed to the Congress that initiated the program that drove the spending or is it amortized on a cash-out basis to each Congress?
  5. Are we amortizing future unfunded liabilities or are we handling those on a cash-out basis?
  6. What about intra-governmental transfers, are those handled using the federal cash-in, cash-out accounting method or are we using GAAP rules?

.. and lastly after running the accounting exercise using whatever criteria you're going to ask me to use, what numbers did YOU come up with?
Amazing how you Leftards love your ‘but Trump’ response to everything.
Civics 101 - Congress creates the budget.

Now answer the question. Name the GOP controlled Congress that outspent Pelosi.
 
Well, I'm not on Joe's spending bandwagon, but this is sort of the issue in infrastructure negotiations. While Biden needs sixty for a spending bill, he can raise taxes with fifty. I don't know that Machin and Sienna are going to protect McConnell's signiture legislative accomplishment of the Trump years, which was also what he got for sacraficing any integrity he still had from Garland.
How about a 33% salary cut for all Federal white collar workers and nobody in Congress nor White House gets more than $1 a year.
To live within our means is a lot of water thrown into a face to realize. In the end without doing these things most may not have anything.
Living within your means, is never a concern for you all, UNLESS it is a Democrat president....

You over spend like there is no tomorrow, without a peep of concern, when it is a Republican president....when the Republican president cuts taxes for the rich, while adding 2 trillion in budget overspending.....No problem!!!

That's why threads like this are just meaningless, a joke....we know your game...
You're absolutely correct, when Republicans are in charge and spend recklessly, the Republican faithful throw their principles right out the window and either remain silent about it or defend the recklessness (usually something along the lines of "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR turn").

Aren't you doing the same thing here though? Are you concerned about the dramatic proposed increases in spending and the mind boggling levels of debt that it would entail? If you are and don't hold your own party accountable, why should you expect Republican partisans to do it? Isn't it all a game of chicken with our national finances that can only end in disaster if one side or the other doesn't come to its senses and start being critical of its own partisans for irresponsibly gambling with EVERYONE'S future?

Or are you ready to admit that your party is no better than the GOP when it comes to handling the purse and holding their own accountable for it?
What years did a GOP controlled Congress outspend Pelosi?
Thanks for proving my point regarding RE: "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR Turn", one of the two major crime families acting recklessly with the national finances DOES NOT IN ANY WAY JUSTIFY THE OTHER ONE DOING THE SAME THING, never has, never will.

Beyond that how are you calculating what "Pelosi spent"? She's the Speaker of the House and cannot spend money on her own, nor could any Republican speaker of the House. So, what SPECIFIC criteria are you asking me to use to make a meaningful comparison:
  1. Are we adjusting for inflation?
  2. Are we accounting for existing structural spending that's handed off from one Congress to the next by statute?
  3. What about debt service? do we go back and account for debt on a per Congress basis, account for the prevailing interest rates at the time it was borrowed and then transfer the culpability for the debt service to the appropriate Congress?
  4. What about mandatory spending? does that get attributed to the Congress that initiated the program that drove the spending or is it amortized on a cash-out basis to each Congress?
  5. Are we amortizing future unfunded liabilities or are we handling those on a cash-out basis?
  6. What about intra-governmental transfers, are those handled using the federal cash-in, cash-out accounting method or are we using GAAP rules?

.. and lastly after running the accounting exercise using whatever criteria you're going to ask me to use, what numbers did YOU come up with?
Amazing how you Leftards love your ‘but Trump’ response to everything.
Civics 101 - Congress creates the budget.

Now answer the question. Name the GOP controlled Congress that outspent Pelosi.

Civics 101 - THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH creates budget proposals, the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH appropriates, so BOTH branches generate "The Budget", here endth lesson #1
.
....and yet you want me to go through a complex accounting exercise using unspecified criteria all in defense of an argument I NEVER MADE? I didn't even mention TRUMP or specify ANYTHING regarding which crime family spent what amount, to top it all off, you're too intellectually lazy and COWARDLY to even specify any criteria let alone go through the exercise yourself.

Here endth lesson #2

BOY I thought the left wingers were pathetic when it comes to intellectual laziness, inability to reason and being completely disingenuous but you just took their title belt.

Have fun in your ECHO CHAMBER.
 
Well, I'm not on Joe's spending bandwagon, but this is sort of the issue in infrastructure negotiations. While Biden needs sixty for a spending bill, he can raise taxes with fifty. I don't know that Machin and Sienna are going to protect McConnell's signiture legislative accomplishment of the Trump years, which was also what he got for sacraficing any integrity he still had from Garland.
How about a 33% salary cut for all Federal white collar workers and nobody in Congress nor White House gets more than $1 a year.
To live within our means is a lot of water thrown into a face to realize. In the end without doing these things most may not have anything.
Living within your means, is never a concern for you all, UNLESS it is a Democrat president....

You over spend like there is no tomorrow, without a peep of concern, when it is a Republican president....when the Republican president cuts taxes for the rich, while adding 2 trillion in budget overspending.....No problem!!!

That's why threads like this are just meaningless, a joke....we know your game...
You're absolutely correct, when Republicans are in charge and spend recklessly, the Republican faithful throw their principles right out the window and either remain silent about it or defend the recklessness (usually something along the lines of "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR turn").

Aren't you doing the same thing here though? Are you concerned about the dramatic proposed increases in spending and the mind boggling levels of debt that it would entail? If you are and don't hold your own party accountable, why should you expect Republican partisans to do it? Isn't it all a game of chicken with our national finances that can only end in disaster if one side or the other doesn't come to its senses and start being critical of its own partisans for irresponsibly gambling with EVERYONE'S future?

Or are you ready to admit that your party is no better than the GOP when it comes to handling the purse and holding their own accountable for it?
What years did a GOP controlled Congress outspend Pelosi?
Thanks for proving my point regarding RE: "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR Turn", one of the two major crime families acting recklessly with the national finances DOES NOT IN ANY WAY JUSTIFY THE OTHER ONE DOING THE SAME THING, never has, never will.

Beyond that how are you calculating what "Pelosi spent"? She's the Speaker of the House and cannot spend money on her own, nor could any Republican speaker of the House. So, what SPECIFIC criteria are you asking me to use to make a meaningful comparison:
  1. Are we adjusting for inflation?
  2. Are we accounting for existing structural spending that's handed off from one Congress to the next by statute?
  3. What about debt service? do we go back and account for debt on a per Congress basis, account for the prevailing interest rates at the time it was borrowed and then transfer the culpability for the debt service to the appropriate Congress?
  4. What about mandatory spending? does that get attributed to the Congress that initiated the program that drove the spending or is it amortized on a cash-out basis to each Congress?
  5. Are we amortizing future unfunded liabilities or are we handling those on a cash-out basis?
  6. What about intra-governmental transfers, are those handled using the federal cash-in, cash-out accounting method or are we using GAAP rules?

.. and lastly after running the accounting exercise using whatever criteria you're going to ask me to use, what numbers did YOU come up with?
Amazing how you Leftards love your ‘but Trump’ response to everything.
Civics 101 - Congress creates the budget.

Now answer the question. Name the GOP controlled Congress that outspent Pelosi.

Civics 101 - THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH creates budget proposals, the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH appropriates, so BOTH branches generate "The Budget", here endth lesson #1
.
....and yet you want me to go through a complex accounting exercise using unspecified criteria all in defense of an argument I NEVER MADE? I didn't even mention TRUMP or specify ANYTHING regarding which crime family spent what amount, to top it all off, you're too intellectually lazy and COWARDLY to even specify any criteria let alone go through the exercise yourself.

Here endth lesson #2

BOY I thought the left wingers were pathetic when it comes to intellectual laziness, inability to reason and being completely disingenuous but you just took their title belt.

Have fun in your ECHO CHAMBER.
A proposal is just that. An idea. Congress creates and approves the budget. The only thing a President can do is sign or not sign.

And if it’s a Republican President, we all know children and grandmas die a horrible death if not signed.

Now. Back to the topic - Democrats control the White House and both Houses of Congress. Without saying BUT TRUMP, tell us why skyrocketing spending is acceptable to you.
 
Well, I'm not on Joe's spending bandwagon, but this is sort of the issue in infrastructure negotiations. While Biden needs sixty for a spending bill, he can raise taxes with fifty. I don't know that Machin and Sienna are going to protect McConnell's signiture legislative accomplishment of the Trump years, which was also what he got for sacraficing any integrity he still had from Garland.
How about a 33% salary cut for all Federal white collar workers and nobody in Congress nor White House gets more than $1 a year.
To live within our means is a lot of water thrown into a face to realize. In the end without doing these things most may not have anything.
Living within your means, is never a concern for you all, UNLESS it is a Democrat president....

You over spend like there is no tomorrow, without a peep of concern, when it is a Republican president....when the Republican president cuts taxes for the rich, while adding 2 trillion in budget overspending.....No problem!!!

That's why threads like this are just meaningless, a joke....we know your game...
You're absolutely correct, when Republicans are in charge and spend recklessly, the Republican faithful throw their principles right out the window and either remain silent about it or defend the recklessness (usually something along the lines of "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR turn").

Aren't you doing the same thing here though? Are you concerned about the dramatic proposed increases in spending and the mind boggling levels of debt that it would entail? If you are and don't hold your own party accountable, why should you expect Republican partisans to do it? Isn't it all a game of chicken with our national finances that can only end in disaster if one side or the other doesn't come to its senses and start being critical of its own partisans for irresponsibly gambling with EVERYONE'S future?

Or are you ready to admit that your party is no better than the GOP when it comes to handling the purse and holding their own accountable for it?
Sorry...but you're full of it.
We didn't like it when Paul Ryan spent us into oblivion and helped fund Obamacare.
 
Well, I'm not on Joe's spending bandwagon, but this is sort of the issue in infrastructure negotiations. While Biden needs sixty for a spending bill, he can raise taxes with fifty. I don't know that Machin and Sienna are going to protect McConnell's signiture legislative accomplishment of the Trump years, which was also what he got for sacraficing any integrity he still had from Garland.
How about a 33% salary cut for all Federal white collar workers and nobody in Congress nor White House gets more than $1 a year.
To live within our means is a lot of water thrown into a face to realize. In the end without doing these things most may not have anything.
Living within your means, is never a concern for you all, UNLESS it is a Democrat president....

You over spend like there is no tomorrow, without a peep of concern, when it is a Republican president....when the Republican president cuts taxes for the rich, while adding 2 trillion in budget overspending.....No problem!!!

That's why threads like this are just meaningless, a joke....we know your game...
You're absolutely correct, when Republicans are in charge and spend recklessly, the Republican faithful throw their principles right out the window and either remain silent about it or defend the recklessness (usually something along the lines of "The Democrats did it when they were in charge now it's OUR turn").

Aren't you doing the same thing here though? Are you concerned about the dramatic proposed increases in spending and the mind boggling levels of debt that it would entail? If you are and don't hold your own party accountable, why should you expect Republican partisans to do it? Isn't it all a game of chicken with our national finances that can only end in disaster if one side or the other doesn't come to its senses and start being critical of its own partisans for irresponsibly gambling with EVERYONE'S future?

Or are you ready to admit that your party is no better than the GOP when it comes to handling the purse and holding their own accountable for it?
Sorry...but you're full of it.
We didn't like it when Paul Ryan spent us into oblivion and helped fund Obamacare.
Is that the Royal "we"? or are you the spokesperson for some other "we"?

You personally might not have liked it, but I saw plenty of lemmings-R in the past that have completely lost any pretense of fiscal conservatism as soon as the Republicans took majority control and started proposing massive spending.
 

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