Big LIE Postal Union commercial.. Post office does use Tax payer money!!!

[Clementine]

All businesses use revolving credit lines for all sorts of reasons. The Post Office is no exception and it does pay it's bills very well without asking the taxpayers for a dime. Just more rightwing bitching.

LOL Damn I wasnt aware you were so ignorant on the subject.

Please tell us you dont believe the post office has never taken a dime of taxpayer money.

You're right, Full-Auto.

I can't believe some claim that the post office doesn't rely on tax payer money.

We fund them or they wouldn't exist. Sure, they charge for services, but if we didn't pay salaries, they couldn't function. And the government has hired too many workers to run the post offices. Unions would insist that we continue to pay people to sit around because it's not acceptable to reduce the postal workers to what we actually need. Once they have their hands in our pockets, they don't let go.

 

[Full-Auto]

All businesses use revolving credit lines for all sorts of reasons. The Post Office is no exception and it does pay it's bills very well without asking the taxpayers for a dime. Just more rightwing bitching.

LOL Damn I wasnt aware you were so ignorant on the subject.

Please tell us you dont believe the post office has never taken a dime of taxpayer money.

Good points. I can't believe some claim that the post office doesn't rely on tax payer money.

We fund them or they wouldn't exist. Sure, they charge for services, but if we didn't pay salaries, they couldn't function. And the government has hired too many workers to run the post offices. Unions would insist that we continue to pay people to sit around because it's not acceptable to reduce the postal workers to what we actually need. Once they have their hands in our pockets, they don't let go.

Apparently the defenders are pissed about funding retirement instead of a future bailout

 

[WillowTree]

Money paid in union dues have been earned and belong to the workers that earn it. Once it is paid to the workers what they choose to do with it is no longer a concern of yours.

Then leave the taxpayer out of it. You don't need our money if you have enough money to pay the democrats.. it's just that simple.

You need the people that work for you. You also need to pay them a fair wage. You would probably be the first to cry if you didn't have nice smooth roads to drive on, safe drinking water, adequate fire protection or your trash not being picked up.

we don't need unions to provide that stuff.

 

[NYcarbineer]

All businesses use revolving credit lines for all sorts of reasons. The Post Office is no exception and it does pay it's bills very well without asking the taxpayers for a dime. Just more rightwing bitching.

LOL Damn I wasnt aware you were so ignorant on the subject.

Please tell us you dont believe the post office has never taken a dime of taxpayer money.

You're right, Full-Auto.

I can't believe some claim that the post office doesn't rely on tax payer money.

We fund them or they wouldn't exist. Sure, they charge for services, but if we didn't pay salaries, they couldn't function. And the government has hired too many workers to run the post offices. Unions would insist that we continue to pay people to sit around because it's not acceptable to reduce the postal workers to what we actually need. Once they have their hands in our pockets, they don't let go.

You're an idiot. The post office borrows money and pays it back with interest. The federal bank they borrow from actually MAKES money for the taxpayers.

jeezus.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Anyone care to provide us with the HISTORY of Union funded retirements and the Mafia?

 

[DaGoose]

Then leave the taxpayer out of it. You don't need our money if you have enough money to pay the democrats.. it's just that simple.

You need the people that work for you. You also need to pay them a fair wage. You would probably be the first to cry if you didn't have nice smooth roads to drive on, safe drinking water, adequate fire protection or your trash not being picked up.

we don't need unions to provide that stuff.

True. But if those employees choose to organize to protect them from being fired to make room for political appointees then they should have that right. It also helps keep experienced people in these jobs to provide the best service that the taxpayers expect.

 

[WillowTree]

You need the people that work for you. You also need to pay them a fair wage. You would probably be the first to cry if you didn't have nice smooth roads to drive on, safe drinking water, adequate fire protection or your trash not being picked up.

we don't need unions to provide that stuff.

True. But if those employees choose to organize to protect them from being fired to make room for political appointees then they should have that right. It also helps keep experienced people in these jobs to provide the best service that the taxpayers expect.

as long as they fund themselves and leave the taxpayers out of it they may in fact collectively bargain and I won't give a darn.

 

[rdean]

I've heard this commercial:

Paid for by the postal workers UNION...

The union’s 30-second ad describes the enormity of the job postal workers do, and ends with a question and response:
Ever wonder what this costs you as a taxpayer?
Not a single cent."

TOTAL LIE!!
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) asked the union to cancel a union-sponsored television ad that has been airing on CNN, MSNBC, and FOX News.

In a letter to President Cliff Guffey dated July 11,2011, the day the ad began airing, Issa called the ad “misleading,” and in a July 13 posting on the Web site of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which he chairs, Issa asked the union to cancel the ad campaign.

The reason is THE Postal Service borrows from the Federal Financing Bank (FFB), a government-owned corporation under the general supervision of the Secretary of the Treasury, provide the Postal Service revolving credit lines of $4 billion!

At year-end, the current estimated market value of our debt was $1,800 million in 2004 and $7,283 million in 2003. Debt consists of $1,800 million in cash drawn on our line of credit with the FFB.
Financial Statements

WHERE did the FFB get their MONEY??? TAX Payers!!!
Government Sponsored Loan-Sharking Bank of Congress: Using Your Tax Dollars to Pander to Special Interests and Fund Pet Projects at Taxpayer Loss.

The U.S. Postal Service (which had $3.8 billion subsidy in 2009) selects an average of 1,125 employees daily to sit in empty “standby rooms.”
They are not allowed to work, read, play cards, watch television, or do anything.
The annual cost is $50 million!

Because of the American Postal Workers Union!
And guess how this ad campaign paid for?
UNION DUES!
Who pays the dues... UNIONIZED Postal workers!
Guess who donates 90% of their donations to Democrats ? Unions!
Guess who writes the bills that authorizes paychecks for the 1,125 employees that sit,in empty rooms at a cost of $50 million a year?
Democrats that receive donations from unions that pay for the commercials that CONVINCE you "oh...no.!.no.! NO tax payers money being used"!
And the circle jerk is completed with tax payers left paying the tab!

STOP THE PRESSES!

YOU FORGOT SOME IMPORTANT FACTS!!!!

Instead, postal officials want changes in the way they operate, including relief from the requirement that it prefund medical costs. No other federal agency has to prefund retiree health benefits, but because of the way the federal budget is organized the money counts as income to the government, so eliminating it would make the federal deficit appear larger.
When Congress restructured postal operations in 2006 it ordered the agency to establish a separate fund to begin covering those benefits, instead of using money for the post office's general fund, starting in 2017, and to make annual advance payments to that account. The payment due Sept. 30 would be $5.5 billion.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/09/postmaster_general_postal_serv.html

That was the Republican lame duck congress in 2006. They just have to fuck the American people one more time before leaving office. In truth, they were thinking ahead. Some Blue States vote through the post office. Get rid of that and many people probably won't vote. It fits right in with all their other anti-American voter suppression policies the Republican base sees nothing wrong with.

 

[WillowTree]

I've heard this commercial:

Paid for by the postal workers UNION...

The union’s 30-second ad describes the enormity of the job postal workers do, and ends with a question and response:
Ever wonder what this costs you as a taxpayer?
Not a single cent."

TOTAL LIE!!
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) asked the union to cancel a union-sponsored television ad that has been airing on CNN, MSNBC, and FOX News.

In a letter to President Cliff Guffey dated July 11,2011, the day the ad began airing, Issa called the ad “misleading,” and in a July 13 posting on the Web site of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which he chairs, Issa asked the union to cancel the ad campaign.

The reason is THE Postal Service borrows from the Federal Financing Bank (FFB), a government-owned corporation under the general supervision of the Secretary of the Treasury, provide the Postal Service revolving credit lines of $4 billion!

At year-end, the current estimated market value of our debt was $1,800 million in 2004 and $7,283 million in 2003. Debt consists of $1,800 million in cash drawn on our line of credit with the FFB.
Financial Statements

WHERE did the FFB get their MONEY??? TAX Payers!!!
Government Sponsored Loan-Sharking Bank of Congress: Using Your Tax Dollars to Pander to Special Interests and Fund Pet Projects at Taxpayer Loss.

The U.S. Postal Service (which had $3.8 billion subsidy in 2009) selects an average of 1,125 employees daily to sit in empty “standby rooms.”
They are not allowed to work, read, play cards, watch television, or do anything.
The annual cost is $50 million!

Because of the American Postal Workers Union!
And guess how this ad campaign paid for?
UNION DUES!
Who pays the dues... UNIONIZED Postal workers!
Guess who donates 90% of their donations to Democrats ? Unions!
Guess who writes the bills that authorizes paychecks for the 1,125 employees that sit,in empty rooms at a cost of $50 million a year?
Democrats that receive donations from unions that pay for the commercials that CONVINCE you "oh...no.!.no.! NO tax payers money being used"!
And the circle jerk is completed with tax payers left paying the tab!

STOP THE PRESSES!

YOU FORGOT SOME IMPORTANT FACTS!!!!

Instead, postal officials want changes in the way they operate, including relief from the requirement that it prefund medical costs. No other federal agency has to prefund retiree health benefits, but because of the way the federal budget is organized the money counts as income to the government, so eliminating it would make the federal deficit appear larger.
When Congress restructured postal operations in 2006 it ordered the agency to establish a separate fund to begin covering those benefits, instead of using money for the post office's general fund, starting in 2017, and to make annual advance payments to that account. The payment due Sept. 30 would be $5.5 billion.

Postmaster General: Postal Service 'on brink of default' | syracuse.com

That was the Republican lame duck congress in 2006. They just have to fuck the American people one more time before leaving office. In truth, they were thinking ahead. Some Blue States vote through the post office. Get rid of that and many people probably won't vote. It fits right in with all their other anti-American voter suppression policies the Republican base sees nothing wrong with.

Fancy that shit. someone who was smart was able to see the handwriting on the wall and knew the taxpayer was gonna have it stuck to them so they made passed a resolution which prevents the unions from sucking us dry.. good for them.. fund your own goddamned retirement.. use that money you pay the demoncrats with.

 

[whitehall]

We know the USPO isn't self sufficient so who pays the salaries and benefits and prnsions of postal workers? The dirty little secret is that the USPO doesn't have to operate efficiently as long as it is supported by taxpayers. Who cares if they stop making saturday deliveries as long as it doesn't take $1.00 to mail a letter next year.

 

[daveman]

Money paid in union dues have been earned and belong to the workers that earn it. Once it is paid to the workers what they choose to do with it is no longer a concern of yours.

But it's your concern what the wealthy do with their money?

 

[WillowTree]

money paid in union dues have been earned and belong to the workers that earn it. Once it is paid to the workers what they choose to do with it is no longer a concern of yours.

but it's your concern what the wealthy do with their money?

k powie.

 

[Ernie S.]

Money paid in union dues have been earned and belong to the workers that earn it. Once it is paid to the workers what they choose to do with it is no longer a concern of yours.

But it's your concern what the wealthy do with their money?

Because he's not wealthy and thinks he is entitled to everything you have.

 

[Truthmatters]

Why is the republican party trying to KILL the post office?

the founders wanted it and were willing to pay for it

 

[Mr Natural]

Why is the republican party trying to KILL the post office?

the founders wanted it and were willing to pay for it

Because the workers make too much.

 

[Truthmatters]

The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

section 8

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

 

[Truthmatters]

They want mail to be ONLY in the hands of private companies.

WHY???????

 

[DaGoose]

Money paid in union dues have been earned and belong to the workers that earn it. Once it is paid to the workers what they choose to do with it is no longer a concern of yours.

But it's your concern what the wealthy do with their money?

Nope. Not after they earn it.

See? Unlike you guys I'm not hypocritical about it.

 

[DaGoose]

we don't need unions to provide that stuff.

True. But if those employees choose to organize to protect them from being fired to make room for political appointees then they should have that right. It also helps keep experienced people in these jobs to provide the best service that the taxpayers expect.

as long as they fund themselves and leave the taxpayers out of it they may in fact collectively bargain and I won't give a darn.

They do so don't.

 

[WillowTree]

They want mail to be ONLY in the hands of private companies.

WHY???????

they're much more efficient.