Bill Would Require US National Soccer Teams Stand for National Anthem

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Repeating Commie propaganda doesn't magically make it true.

Clinging to capitalism in spite of its many failures is magical thinking:

How Racism is an Essential Tool for Maintaining the Capitalist Order - CounterPunch.org

"Police and prisons were to 'keep the lid on,' 'tame,' 'patrol and control' the restive portions of the shock-absorber communities sequestered in slums or ghettos. Interactions with police coupled with cycling and recycling through prisons were the chosen means to manage capitalism’s collateral damage.

"Those means generated collateral damage of their own: the long, tragic record of police violence, use of excessive force, the harshness and violence of incarceration, and the killing especially of African Americans."

Fuck your communism. Get the fuck out!!!

 

[Faun]

There should be no federal money for soccer, whether they stand or not. Let’s hope USSF decides to let players kneel. Save the taxpayers some money.

That may turn out to be a dangerous underestimation of the future of US soccer?

Infographic: Super Bowl Can't Hold the Candle to the Biggest Game in Soccer

Wow, it looks like soccer could support it’s self. BTW, I realize how popular soccer is. I don’t believe we should fund any sports. I’d say the same about football, basketball or fishing, it is a waste of taxpayer money. I would also end all other corporate welfare. If a business needs subsidized, then they have a poor process in place and they either need to fix it, or go out of business.

They don't have to play the World Cup in the U.S.. But doing so generates billions of dollars for the economy. Why shouldn't the government encourage them to bring it here by funding part of it to meet FIFA standards?

Good with billions being made, taxpayers should not need to fund it. Let private enterprise that will rake in billions fund it. That is capitalism at work.

Nonsense. Legislators, at all levels, give money, or other incentives, to businesses that help the economy.

And we shouldn’t. The question isn’t do they or don’t they, it is should they or shouldn’t they. We don’t need to fund businesses, corporations, foreign countries, sports or anything else. There is no purpose. If there is love of the sport, then let them foot the bill.

The government is under no obligation to fund any of it and is in no position to fund it.

No one said the government is obligated. You’re not offering any reason for why the government shouldn't foster businesses that are good for the community. They bring jobs and revenue.

Nuh-uh, is not a reason.

Aren’t you the people that claim if a business can’t pay a living wage they should not be in business. Yet, you want to fund businesses? You people make no sense. We are $22trillion in debt and you just want to fund nonsense like soccer. How does having a soccer team help the general welfare of the nation? Seems like a silly waste of money. I had several businesses and didn’t take any corporate well fare. Is a waste of money.

This thread is about providing funds for the World Cup, the most watched sporting event on the planet. So no, we're not talking about nonsense. And no, not a silly waste of money; but one that will generate billions of dollars. Bringing that to America, benefits America.

Oh, and we're not $22 trillion in debt... we're over $26 trillion in debt.

We ain't winning that. So why fund it anyway?

Because the point in providing funds is to bring the World Cup here to reap the economic benefits that come with it. That benefit occurs regardless of whether or not we win.

Good let them fund their own selves, leave the taxpayers alone.

Again, nuh-uh isn't a reason. It's a boost to our economy. What reason other than nuh-uh is there to pass on that?

 

[georgephillip]

Leftists, however, believe in black inferiority. You believe blacks can't succeed without the help of white leftists.
You can feel guilty for things you never did if you like.

Leftists recognize the crimes of the white race in North America and believe they require reparations:

Five Truths About Black History

"The first slaves arrived here in 1619. Between 1619 and 1865, Virginia passed more than 130 slave statutes to regulate the ownership of Black people.

"A 1662 law made all children of enslaved mothers slaves, regardless of the father’s race or status, so that rape by white slave-masters couldn’t create a free child.

"A 1667 law codified that slaves who converted to Christianity were still slaves.

"A 1669 law allowed slaves to be killed for resisting authority."

 

[georgephillip]

not really a problem. the way you morons handle the pandemic in your ridiculous country, the world cup 2026 will be in canada and mexico, and you and your team will not be allowed to travel.

Too much MAGA maybe?

E.U. Plans to Bar Most U.S. Travelers When Bloc Reopens

 

[georgephillip]

A spot on a national team is an honor, not a right, not one given for talent alone but also based on not only everything our country stands for but also the continuous struggle to be better...the best we can be

As someone who has watched and lived through the struggle for human rights in the US for all of my 73 years, I can tell you we haven't gotten better because of those who blindly went along with white supremacy and its apologists.

Athletic ability should be the sole determinant for representing a country, not a willingness to go along with Whitey.

1968 Olympics Black Power salute - Wikipedia

 

[georgephillip]

Unconstitutional. Fuck that slimeball little c*nt and the orange asshole he lives in.

"Odds of passage
The bill has not yet attracted any cosponsors. It awaits a potential vote in the House Foreign Affairs Committee, despite its ostensibly domestic nature. Odds of passage are low in the Democratic-controlled chamber."

https://govtrackinsider.com/bill-wo...-teams-stand-for-national-anthem-3658805cce48

 

[easyt65]

A spot on a national team is an honor, not a right, not one given for talent alone but also based on not only everything our country stands for but also the continuous struggle to be better...the best we can be

As someone who has watched and lived through the struggle for human rights in the US for all of my 73 years, I can tell you we haven't gotten better because of those who blindly went along with white supremacy and its apologists.

Athletic ability should be the sole determinant for representing a country, not a willingness to go along with Whitey.

1968 Olympics Black Power salute - Wikipedia

Socialists have indoctrinated leftist sheep in believing America is a horrible place, that we should tear this country down and restart...but millions dream of coming here, strive, and sacrifice to come here.

Leftists have no appreciation for this country.

Tell you what, Protestors should go to China, North Korea, or Russia and try to protest, loot, destroy, burn, and tear down statues...

Or try kneeling, giving a racist salute, or insulting one of those nations while on their national teams.

When Iraqi athletes LOST in the Olympics Hussein's twisted sons tortured and killed them.

.

 

[Papageorgio]

There should be no federal money for soccer, whether they stand or not. Let’s hope USSF decides to let players kneel. Save the taxpayers some money.

That may turn out to be a dangerous underestimation of the future of US soccer?

Infographic: Super Bowl Can't Hold the Candle to the Biggest Game in Soccer

Wow, it looks like soccer could support it’s self. BTW, I realize how popular soccer is. I don’t believe we should fund any sports. I’d say the same about football, basketball or fishing, it is a waste of taxpayer money. I would also end all other corporate welfare. If a business needs subsidized, then they have a poor process in place and they either need to fix it, or go out of business.

They don't have to play the World Cup in the U.S.. But doing so generates billions of dollars for the economy. Why shouldn't the government encourage them to bring it here by funding part of it to meet FIFA standards?

Good with billions being made, taxpayers should not need to fund it. Let private enterprise that will rake in billions fund it. That is capitalism at work.

Nonsense. Legislators, at all levels, give money, or other incentives, to businesses that help the economy.

And we shouldn’t. The question isn’t do they or don’t they, it is should they or shouldn’t they. We don’t need to fund businesses, corporations, foreign countries, sports or anything else. There is no purpose. If there is love of the sport, then let them foot the bill.

The government is under no obligation to fund any of it and is in no position to fund it.

No one said the government is obligated. You’re not offering any reason for why the government shouldn't foster businesses that are good for the community. They bring jobs and revenue.

Nuh-uh, is not a reason.

Aren’t you the people that claim if a business can’t pay a living wage they should not be in business. Yet, you want to fund businesses? You people make no sense. We are $22trillion in debt and you just want to fund nonsense like soccer. How does having a soccer team help the general welfare of the nation? Seems like a silly waste of money. I had several businesses and didn’t take any corporate well fare. Is a waste of money.

This thread is about providing funds for the World Cup, the most watched sporting event on the planet. So no, we're not talking about nonsense. And no, not a silly waste of money; but one that will generate billions of dollars. Bringing that to America, benefits America.

Oh, and we're not $22 trillion in debt... we're over $26 trillion in debt.

We ain't winning that. So why fund it anyway?

Because the point in providing funds is to bring the World Cup here to reap the economic benefits that come with it. That benefit occurs regardless of whether or not we win.

Good let them fund their own selves, leave the taxpayers alone.

Again, nuh-uh isn't a reason. It's a boost to our economy. What reason other than nuh-uh is there to pass on that?

Again, why should taxpayers need to pay a US soccer team that will make billions?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

A spot on a national team is an honor, not a right, not one given for talent alone but also based on not only everything our country stands for but also the continuous struggle to be better...the best we can be

As someone who has watched and lived through the struggle for human rights in the US for all of my 73 years, I can tell you we haven't gotten better because of those who blindly went along with white supremacy and its apologists.

Athletic ability should be the sole determinant for representing a country, not a willingness to go along with Whitey.

1968 Olympics Black Power salute - Wikipedia

Socialists have indoctrinated leftist sheep in believing America is a horrible place, that we should tear this country down and restart...but millions dream of coming here, strive, and sacrifice to come here.

Leftists have no appreciation for this country.

Tell you what, Protestors should go to China, North Korea, or Russia and try to protest, loot, destroy, burn, and tear down statues...

Or try kneeling, giving a racist salute, or insulting one of those nations while on their national teams.

When Iraqi athletes LOST in the Olympics Hussein's twisted sons tortured and killed them.

.

Naw, it's just you Cult45 fuck wits we can do without.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So how much?
Did anyone get it but the nomenklatura?

The President and the Plague

Too much winning?

How's that "Cuban" anti-viral working out? DURR.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is that why the Soviet economy is bigger than ours, no cyclical downturns or awful effects?

Thanks for the list of things that have nothing to do with capitalism.

 

[Hellokitty]

It has? I haven't heard the MSM discuss the efficiency of wearing masks. The only thing I have seen regarding masks is that they are only 30% efficient in reducing spread.

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/the-best-mask-material-according-to-scientists

Thanks, but let me know when you find something showing the % from homemade masks against COVID-19.

 

[Faun]

There should be no federal money for soccer, whether they stand or not. Let’s hope USSF decides to let players kneel. Save the taxpayers some money.

That may turn out to be a dangerous underestimation of the future of US soccer?

Infographic: Super Bowl Can't Hold the Candle to the Biggest Game in Soccer

Wow, it looks like soccer could support it’s self. BTW, I realize how popular soccer is. I don’t believe we should fund any sports. I’d say the same about football, basketball or fishing, it is a waste of taxpayer money. I would also end all other corporate welfare. If a business needs subsidized, then they have a poor process in place and they either need to fix it, or go out of business.

They don't have to play the World Cup in the U.S.. But doing so generates billions of dollars for the economy. Why shouldn't the government encourage them to bring it here by funding part of it to meet FIFA standards?

Good with billions being made, taxpayers should not need to fund it. Let private enterprise that will rake in billions fund it. That is capitalism at work.

Nonsense. Legislators, at all levels, give money, or other incentives, to businesses that help the economy.

And we shouldn’t. The question isn’t do they or don’t they, it is should they or shouldn’t they. We don’t need to fund businesses, corporations, foreign countries, sports or anything else. There is no purpose. If there is love of the sport, then let them foot the bill.

The government is under no obligation to fund any of it and is in no position to fund it.

No one said the government is obligated. You’re not offering any reason for why the government shouldn't foster businesses that are good for the community. They bring jobs and revenue.

Nuh-uh, is not a reason.

Aren’t you the people that claim if a business can’t pay a living wage they should not be in business. Yet, you want to fund businesses? You people make no sense. We are $22trillion in debt and you just want to fund nonsense like soccer. How does having a soccer team help the general welfare of the nation? Seems like a silly waste of money. I had several businesses and didn’t take any corporate well fare. Is a waste of money.

This thread is about providing funds for the World Cup, the most watched sporting event on the planet. So no, we're not talking about nonsense. And no, not a silly waste of money; but one that will generate billions of dollars. Bringing that to America, benefits America.

Oh, and we're not $22 trillion in debt... we're over $26 trillion in debt.

We ain't winning that. So why fund it anyway?

Because the point in providing funds is to bring the World Cup here to reap the economic benefits that come with it. That benefit occurs regardless of whether or not we win.

Good let them fund their own selves, leave the taxpayers alone.

Again, nuh-uh isn't a reason. It's a boost to our economy. What reason other than nuh-uh is there to pass on that?

Again, why should taxpayers need to pay a US soccer team that will make billions?

This is the last time I'm going to say this because you clearly are struggling to understand. I didn't say the U.S. soccer team makes billions... the community makes billions.

And you have zero lucid reasons for why communities should be denied such a boom to their economy. For the most watched sporting event on the planet, no less.

 

[pknopp]

Ain't nothing more American than restricting someone's freedom of speech.

Wrong. They are representing the United States. If they have a problem with it, they shouldn’t be on the team. They can “protest” all they want in their own personal time when not wearing the US team uniform.

That isn't how free speech works. But you know that. They are exemplifying everything this country is supposed to be about.

Yes, it is how freedom is speech works. Funny how it’s okay to get people fired from their jobs for criticizing BLM terrorists, yet not okay to fire a team member for breaking the team’s policy?

It seems unconstitutional. 1st amendment--free speech (if it's construed as that) and right to protest are both hands off as far as the government goes. Last I checked, Congress is the government. I'm surprised they're even trying this.

Not unconstitutional to have team rules that do not allow players to shit on America on the international stage.

Players still have free speech rights. Just not the right to be on the. national team.

Otherwise, just don't put out a team. Either that or I will support Uruguay forever.

I think you already do.

 

[georgephillip]

Socialists have indoctrinated leftist sheep in believing America is a horrible place, that we should tear this country down and restart...but millions dream of coming here, strive, and sacrifice to come here.

Leftists have no appreciation for this country.

Leftists appreciate US history and the role white supremacy has served:

Five Truths About Black History

"Forty of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence owned slaves. Under the Constitution, a slave was counted as three-fifths of a free person.

"Ten of the first 12 presidents owned slaves.

"This is who we were as the United States became a nation."

Most of those millions who dream of coming here have no knowledge of the influence of white supremacy and many are too greedy to care.

The fact that China, Russia, and North Korea have less regard for human rights than US bigots is just another lame strawman arguments conservatives always fall back on when they can't defend their own racist instincts.

 

[22lcidw]

A spot on a national team is an honor, not a right, not one given for talent alone but also based on not only everything our country stands for but also the continuous struggle to be better...the best we can be

As someone who has watched and lived through the struggle for human rights in the US for all of my 73 years, I can tell you we haven't gotten better because of those who blindly went along with white supremacy and its apologists.

Athletic ability should be the sole determinant for representing a country, not a willingness to go along with Whitey.

1968 Olympics Black Power salute - Wikipedia

1968 is long ago. Like most of us at times, excuses are the way now. Welcome to equality.

 

[georgephillip]

How's that "Cuban" anti-viral working out? DURR.

Better than bleach, Bitch.

 

[georgephillip]

Thanks for the list of things that have nothing to do with capitalism.

Can you follow this math?
Capitalism = Racism.

Five Truths About Black History

"Terrorism, even if we refuse to acknowledge it

"The largest terrorist attack in Oklahoma was not at the Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995.

"It was down the road in Tulsa in 1921.

"The Greenwood neighborhood of Tulsa, Oklahoma, was unique. In the early 20th century, it was referred to as 'Black Wall Street' and was home to Black and Native Americans who had become wealthy from oil discoveries."

 

[georgephillip]

Thanks, but let me know when you find something showing the % from homemade masks against COVID-19.

PolitiFact - Face masks, including homemade ones, are effective COVID-19 protection, experts say

 

[georgephillip]

1968 is long ago. Like most of us at times, excuses are the way now. Welcome to equality.

Much has changed since '68, but white supremacy will be around long after 2020.

1968 Olympics Black Power salute - Wikipedia

"Smith and Carlos were largely ostracized by the US sporting establishment and they were subject to criticism. Time magazine on October 25, 1968, wrote: 'Faster, Higher, Stronger' is the motto of the Olympic Games. 'Angrier, nastier, uglier' better describes the scene in Mexico City last week.'[18][19]

"Back home, both Smith and Carlos were subject to abuse and they and their families received death threats.[20]

"Brent Musburger, a writer for the Chicago American before rising to prominence at CBS Sports and ESPN, described Smith and Carlos as 'a couple of black-skinned storm troopers' who were 'ignoble,' 'juvenile,' and 'unimaginative.'"

How different are the above responses to what Kaepernick experienced in 2016?