black lives matter compared to k k k

[Coyote]

Fact-checking claim about deaths, damage from Black Lives Matter protests

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on August 7, 2020 Facebook posts: Black Lives Matter "injures...

www.statesman.com

Difficult to flatly blame BLM

There is a Black Lives Matter national organization, which says it has more than a dozen U.S. chapters, along with countless numbers of individuals who support the organization.

As the New York Times reported July 3, four recent polls "suggest that about 15 million to 26 million people in the United States have participated in demonstrations over the death of George Floyd and others in recent weeks. These figures would make the recent protests the largest movement in the country’s history, according to interviews with scholars and crowd-counting experts."

There are also people who have participated in demonstrations, which have occurred in hundreds of cities, who may have no allegiance to Black Lives Matter, or may even oppose it, and have rioted or committed other acts of violence — making it even more difficult to determine how a violent incident occurred.

What’s more, news coverage of the protests have also included numerous reports that identify law enforcement officers as causing injury to civilians.

In short, there isn’t evidence to back the numbers in the claim or to blame Black Lives Matter for each part of the claim.

Our rating is False.

 

[Coyote]

Outside of protests, what have BLM members done?

Any reports of Black Lives Matter members lynching white folks? Bombing or burning down churches?

We know the KKK has done all that and more.

 

[Coyote]

Let me know when BLM starts beating, torturing, lynching and murdering folks based on the color of their skin. Let us know how many white churches they burn down or bomb as well.

When was the last KKK killing?
Decades ago.
When was the last BLM killing?
Months ago.

Who?

Over 30 people were killed in the BLM riots.

Please provide the names of the killers. Were they BLM members doing the killing?

 

[Foreigner Looking In.]

Let me know when BLM starts beating, torturing, lynching and murdering folks based on the color of their skin. Let us know how many white churches they burn down or bomb as well.

When was the last KKK killing?
Decades ago.
When was the last BLM killing?
Months ago.

Who?

Over 30 people were killed in the BLM riots.

Please provide the names of the killers. Were they BLM members doing the killing?

Yes, they were part of the BLM uprising of 2020.

 

[Foreigner Looking In.]

Outside of protests, what have BLM members done?

Any reports of Black Lives Matter members lynching white folks? Bombing or burning down churches?

We know the KKK has done all that and more.

Yeah, like a century ago.
BLM mobs have burned down 2 billion dollars in property, beat a guy to death with skateboards, killed a black child at an armed BLM checkpoint, and shot another 2 unarmed black kids at a BLM autonomus zone aka CHAZ.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Outside of protests, what have BLM members done?

Any reports of Black Lives Matter members lynching white folks? Bombing or burning down churches?

We know the KKK has done all that and more.

Yeah, like a century ago.

No, not a century ago, this incident occurred in 1963 within many of our lifetimes. The Dylann Roof mass shooting happened a little less than 6 years ago:

16th Street Baptist Church bombing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The 16th Street Baptist Church bombing was a white supremacist terrorist bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama, on Sunday, September 15, 1963.[1][2][3] Four members of a local Ku Klux Klan chapter planted 19 sticks of dynamite attached to a timing device beneath the steps located on the east side of the church.[4]

Described by Martin Luther King Jr. as "one of the most vicious and tragic crimes ever perpetrated against humanity",[5] the explosion at the church killed four girls and injured between 14 and 22 other people.

Although the FBI had concluded in 1965 that the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing had been committed by four known Klansmen and segregationists: Thomas Edwin Blanton Jr., Herman Frank Cash, Robert Edward Chambliss, and Bobby Frank Cherry,[6] no prosecutions were conducted until 1977, when Robert Chambliss was tried and convicted of the first-degree murder of one of the victims, 11-year-old Carol Denise McNair.

 

[IM2]

Both groups the same.

Both as bad as each other when it comes to their core beliefs.

Problem is one is rightly consigned to history and not really taken too seriously anymore, but the other one is embraced.

The question should be when the two political parties switched places if they ever did.

1964.

 

[Rambunctious]

Racist haters always group up and cover their faces...no difference between BLM and the KKK except for the way they are reported on by Americas number one enemy....the news media.....

 

[IM2]

Outside of protests, what have BLM members done?

Any reports of Black Lives Matter members lynching white folks? Bombing or burning down churches?

We know the KKK has done all that and more.

Yeah, like a century ago.
BLM mobs have burned down 2 billion dollars in property, beat a guy to death with skateboards, killed a black child at an armed BLM checkpoint, and shot another 2 unarmed black kids at a BLM autonomus zone aka CHAZ.

This is a lie. The KKK still exists now, but they have never been the only white supremacist group. All documented evidences reveals that 95-97 percent of all BLM protests were peaceful. They also show that most of the violence was started by whites supremacists with the help of law enforcement. Your racist ass stays stuck on 2-3 instances out of hundreds of thousands of interaction in over 7,000 protestts. Comparing BLM to the KKK is like comparing football to poker. There is no similarity and only the racist extreme element in the white community even tries making such a comparison.

 

[IM2]

Racist haters always group up and cover their faces...no difference between BLM and the KKK except for the way they are reported on by Americas number one enemy....the news media.....

Again only the racist element in the white community make this claim. There is no sane comparison.

 

[Rambunctious]

Racist haters always group up and cover their faces...no difference between BLM and the KKK except for the way they are reported on by Americas number one enemy....the news media.....

Again only the racist element in the white community make this claim. There is no sane comparison.

BLM has killed people burnt buildings and looted cities...they hide their faces and they have torn down statues and beat people up....now you are going to tell us how they are different?...give it a try I could use a good laugh...

 

[Coyote]

Let me know when BLM starts beating, torturing, lynching and murdering folks based on the color of their skin. Let us know how many white churches they burn down or bomb as well.

When was the last KKK killing?
Decades ago.
When was the last BLM killing?
Months ago.

Who?

Over 30 people were killed in the BLM riots.

Please provide the names of the killers. Were they BLM members doing the killing?

Yes, they were part of the BLM uprising of 2020.

Please show evidence that each was a member of BLM.

 

[freyasman]

Let me know when BLM starts beating, torturing, lynching and murdering folks based on the color of their skin. Let us know how many white churches they burn down or bomb as well.

They are working up to it...they murdered over 30 Americans during the riots ...

Nah, you guys are trying to get up the nerve for it, though.

You can tell by the way the black racist motherfuckers get so outraged when a white person fights back.

They want to outlaw self defense by whites.

 

[freyasman]

Let me know when BLM starts beating, torturing, lynching and murdering folks based on the color of their skin. Let us know how many white churches they burn down or bomb as well.

Every time a BLM supporter is challenged to prove systemic racism exists, they toss up "evidence" from 1964 or 1900, or 1880, or 1619 or......You get the picture. BLM supporters keep hate alive for Whitey by pretending nothing has changed.

No dumbass we can show evidence from 2021.

No you can't.

Calling something racist doesn't make it so.

 

[TheParser]

I guess that it is wishful thinking on my part, but is there the possibility that the majority of the American people are getting sick, sick, sick of all this BLM talk since 2020?

It there any chance that most Americans will start tuning out all media hysterics about systemic racism? About how evil Caucasians are? About how violent crime is supposedly the result of poverty?

 

[freyasman]

Oklahoma Republican Compared Black Lives Matter to KKK and He's Just as Wrong as the Million Other White People Who Have Done the Same

We really need to talk about how basic white conservatives are when it comes to making an argument. That they are racist white nationalists is a given, but what really gets me is the fact that when it comes to thinking critically, they possess all of the depth of an inflatable kiddie pool before...

www.theroot.com

I really not sure there is a difference in the groups. The blacks in the blm are always talking about killing and having wars with whites. KKK did the same thing in reverse to blacks in earlier years. Both groups are good at sending their lynch mobs out. The difference now from then. Is cops actually come out and stop things before some one is strung up.

How would you feel if your local law enforcement agency and justice system was made up mostly of Black Lives Matter members?

Where in the US is any LE agency full of klansmen and their sympathizers?
Name one....

 

[freyasman]

Black Lives Matter Protesters Were Overwhelmingly Peaceful, Our Research Finds

The Black Lives Matter uprisings were remarkably nonviolent. When there was violence, very often police or counterprotesters were reportedly directing it at the protesters.

When the Department of Homeland Security released its Homeland Threat Assessment earlier this month, it emphasized that self-proclaimed white supremacist groups are the most dangerous threat to U.S. security. But the report misleadingly added that there had been “over 100 days of violence and destruction in our cities,” referring to the anti-racism uprisings of this past summer.

Here is what we have found based on the 7,305 events we’ve collected. The overall levels of violence and property destruction were low, and most of the violence that did take place was, in fact, directed against the BLM protesters.

First, police made arrests in 5% of the protest events, with over 8,500 reported arrests (or possibly more). Police used tear gas or related chemical substances in 2.5% of these events.

Protesters or bystanders were reported injured in 1.6 percent of the protests. In total, at least three Black Lives Matter protesters and one other person were killed while protesting in Omaha, Austin and Kenosha, Wis. One anti-fascist protester killed a far-right group member during a confrontation in Portland, Ore.; law enforcement killed the alleged assailant several days later.

Police were reported injured in 1% of the protests. A law enforcement officer killed in California was allegedly shot by supporters of the far-right “boogaloo” movement, not anti-racism protesters.

The killings in the line of duty of other law enforcement officers during this period were not related to the protests.

Only 3.7% of the protests involved property damage or vandalism. Some portion of these involved neither police nor protesters, but people engaging in vandalism or looting alongside the protests.

In short, our data suggest that 96.3% of events involved no property damage or police injuries, and in 97.7% of events, no injuries were reported among participants, bystanders or police.

These figures should correct the narrative that the protests were overtaken by rioting and vandalism or violence.

Such claims are false. Incidents in which there was protester violence or property destruction should be regarded as exceptional – and not representative of the uprising as a whole.

In many instances, police reportedly began or escalated the violence, but some observers nevertheless blame the protesters.

Black Lives Matter Protesters Were Overwhelmingly Peaceful, Our Research Finds | Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study at Harvard University

The Black Lives Matter uprisings were remarkably nonviolent. When there was violence, very often police or counterprotesters were reportedly directing it at the protesters.

www.radcliffe.harvard.edu

Bullshit.

 

[freyasman]

No dumbass we can show evidence from 2021.

I see. You just prefer to dig up 100 year old black and white photographs, got it.

You clowns said that BLM was equal to the Klan, so show me some photos of BLM lynching white folks and standing around taking pictures of it. Show me some churches that BLM has firebombed or burned down.

Here you go:

National media buries two violent hate crimes against white men in the same day; AP makes incredulous claim

Two heinous Black Lives Matter-linked hate crimes involving black suspects and white victims are being ignored by the media.

www.bizpacreview.com

Jayvon Hatchett is a violent racist - no argument there. But he doesn't appear to be a member of BLM.

Steve Sinclair is also a racist, charged with a hate crime - possibly mentally ill - said "black lives matter". There is no evidence he is a member of BLM.

If we use your "logic" and look at the number of Trump inspired attacks and killings - can we then say MAGA is like the KKK?

Aren't you all already doing that?

 

[freyasman]

How would you feel if your local law enforcement agency and justice system was made up mostly of Black Lives Matter members?

That would be unfortunate. Luckily our Police are mostly excellent Cops who are trying hard to do an almost impossible job.

But the thought would make you uncomfortable right? Now just imagine that you're black and racial segregation and discrimination is legal and many of the members of the justice system and local law enforcement are Klan members.

It's the same thing and a very unfortunate part of southern life for many black Americans prior to the passage of the Civil Rights Act. Now imagine all of the people who did not agree with the new laws and continued to act according to the old racial ways, the ways that existed since the founding of this nation. I would hope that you can see that in many cases, the only thing that changed were the laws, not the people nor their attitudes and behaviors.

Except, not really.

 

[Coyote]

No dumbass we can show evidence from 2021.

I see. You just prefer to dig up 100 year old black and white photographs, got it.

You clowns said that BLM was equal to the Klan, so show me some photos of BLM lynching white folks and standing around taking pictures of it. Show me some churches that BLM has firebombed or burned down.

Here you go:

National media buries two violent hate crimes against white men in the same day; AP makes incredulous claim

Two heinous Black Lives Matter-linked hate crimes involving black suspects and white victims are being ignored by the media.

www.bizpacreview.com

Jayvon Hatchett is a violent racist - no argument there. But he doesn't appear to be a member of BLM.

Steve Sinclair is also a racist, charged with a hate crime - possibly mentally ill - said "black lives matter". There is no evidence he is a member of BLM.

If we use your "logic" and look at the number of Trump inspired attacks and killings - can we then say MAGA is like the KKK?

Aren't you all already doing that?

No. I'm not a stupid right-winger. Disliking an ideology or cult does not make it analogous to the KKK (or the Nazi's or any of the other retarded comparisons flying around these days).