Bombshell: Cheney to deliver speech bashing "Obama's" March 2009 strategy.

[rightwinger]

Man, you guys are just great.

The US government knew exactly what Saddam had. Remember, Iraq has/had no industry and no manufacturing. That means everything, and I mean everything is imported.

If anyone believes that a country without manufacturing or industry could make WMDs, then they are a fool.

After 9/11, every country in the world was willing to share what they sold to Iraq with the US. If only so they don't appear to be collaborators.

And 15 of the 16 hijackers came from Arabia.

Remember Bush's famous words, "Is that all you got?"

Just stop. Stop repeating nutzy Republican catch phrases.

I guess all those poor fuckers who died of chemical poisoning were just playin' possum then. Hmmm?

Good joke. That wacky Saddam! He had me completely fooled.

Good point Murf..

Iraq did have chemical weapons....25 years ago
Notice how when he was viciously attacked by US troops in Desert Storm..he never went to his chemical weapons
Notice how when he launched Scuds against Israel....he never used chemical weapons

Hans Blick reported before the US invasion that he did not see evidence of WMDs and could prove it with more time....Cheney said we did not have more time

Guess who was right?

 

[Murf76]

Good point Murf..

Iraq did have chemical weapons....25 years ago
Notice how when he was viciously attacked by US troops in Desert Storm..he never went to his chemical weapons
Notice how when he launched Scuds against Israel....he never used chemical weapons

Hans Blick reported before the US invasion that he did not see evidence of WMDs and could prove it with more time....Cheney said we did not have more time

Guess who was right?

Saddam Hussein was a monster, and a fool. But he wasn't an utter moron. There was no way he was going to use chemical bombs on westerners.

This guy went all out to convince the world that he had more in the way of weapons than what he actually had.... and he fully expected to play the victim if he got called on it. Like other tin pot dictators, he knew he'd never beat us militarily. He needed the good will of useful idiots around the globe to call us off if we went for his throat.

Saddam underestimated our determination on the matter though. But then again, his world was an insular one, where people who gave him bad news suffered the consequences of his displeasure. No wonder he couldn't truly appreciate his danger until it was much too late.



Oh... and all this rehash of Bush/Cheney/Iraq is an OBVIOUS deflection, btw., to try and paper over the fact that your guy can't get his thumb out of his ass. No joy.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama Bitch Slaps Cheney

(CNN) - White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs fired back Thursday at the latest criticisms from Dick Cheney, and suggested the Bush administration did not send U.S. troops into foreign conflicts responsibly.

"What Vice President Cheney calls 'dithering,' President Obama calls his solemn responsibility to the men and women in uniform and to the American public," Gibbs said. "I think we've all seen what happens when someone doesn't take that responsibility seriously."

Gibbs' comments come a day after the former vice president issued a blistering a wide-ranging critique of the Obama administration's foreign policy, saying Obama appears "afraid to make a decision" when it comes to troop levels in Afghanistan, and the president's indecision is "hurt[ing] our allies and emboldening our adversaries."

In his comments Thursday, Gibbs said the delay over a troop decision in Afghanistan is largely due to the fact the Bush administration did not adequately assess the conditions in the country ahead of sending troops there.

"I think it is a curious comment," Gibbs also said, "I think it is pretty safe to say that the vice president was for seven years not focused on Afghanistan. Even more curious given the fact that an increase in troops sat on desks in this White House including the vice president's for more than eight months - a resource request filled by President Obama in March."

"I find it interesting that he's blaming us for something that he didn't see fit to do over, best I can tell, seven years of a war in Afghanistan," he added.

 

[Murf76]

Obama Bitch Slaps Cheney

(CNN) - White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs fired back Thursday at the latest criticisms from Dick Cheney, and suggested the Bush administration did not send U.S. troops into foreign conflicts responsibly.

"What Vice President Cheney calls 'dithering,' President Obama calls his solemn responsibility to the men and women in uniform and to the American public," Gibbs said. "I think we've all seen what happens when someone doesn't take that responsibility seriously."

Gibbs' comments come a day after the former vice president issued a blistering a wide-ranging critique of the Obama administration's foreign policy, saying Obama appears "afraid to make a decision" when it comes to troop levels in Afghanistan, and the president's indecision is "hurt[ing] our allies and emboldening our adversaries."

In his comments Thursday, Gibbs said the delay over a troop decision in Afghanistan is largely due to the fact the Bush administration did not adequately assess the conditions in the country ahead of sending troops there.

"I think it is a curious comment," Gibbs also said, "I think it is pretty safe to say that the vice president was for seven years not focused on Afghanistan. Even more curious given the fact that an increase in troops sat on desks in this White House including the vice president's for more than eight months - a resource request filled by President Obama in March."

"I find it interesting that he's blaming us for something that he didn't see fit to do over, best I can tell, seven years of a war in Afghanistan," he added.

I'm sure Barry's notion of "solemn responsibility" is of great comfort to our military men and women under fire with no reinforcement on the horizon.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama Bitch Slaps Cheney

(CNN) - White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs fired back Thursday at the latest criticisms from Dick Cheney, and suggested the Bush administration did not send U.S. troops into foreign conflicts responsibly.

"What Vice President Cheney calls 'dithering,' President Obama calls his solemn responsibility to the men and women in uniform and to the American public," Gibbs said. "I think we've all seen what happens when someone doesn't take that responsibility seriously."

Gibbs' comments come a day after the former vice president issued a blistering a wide-ranging critique of the Obama administration's foreign policy, saying Obama appears "afraid to make a decision" when it comes to troop levels in Afghanistan, and the president's indecision is "hurt[ing] our allies and emboldening our adversaries."

In his comments Thursday, Gibbs said the delay over a troop decision in Afghanistan is largely due to the fact the Bush administration did not adequately assess the conditions in the country ahead of sending troops there.

"I think it is a curious comment," Gibbs also said, "I think it is pretty safe to say that the vice president was for seven years not focused on Afghanistan. Even more curious given the fact that an increase in troops sat on desks in this White House including the vice president's for more than eight months - a resource request filled by President Obama in March."

"I find it interesting that he's blaming us for something that he didn't see fit to do over, best I can tell, seven years of a war in Afghanistan," he added.

I'm sure Barry's notion of "solemn responsibility" is of great comfort to our military men and women under fire with no reinforcement on the horizon.

The additional troops are not reinforcements. They will be used to expand the existing US area of control within Afghanistan.
Putting additional men and women in harms way should not be taken lightly. The military needs to define an executable exit strategy and timeline using concrete achievable milestones.
In the absence of that all we have is another Viet Nam with peacekeepers performing no definable strategy. Johnson anguished over every troop escallation but in the end, deferred to his generals. 50,000 men paid the price

 

[Jay Canuck]

How Dick Cheney dodged the Vietnam draft - The Timeline

Aug. 29, 1964: Dick and Lynne Cheney marry.

May 19, 1965: The Selective Service classifies Dick Cheney 1-A, "available immediately for military service."

July 28, 1965: President Lyndon Johnson says draft calls will be doubled.

Oct. 26, 1965: The Selective Service declares that married men without children, who were previously exempted from the draft, will now be called up. Married men with children remain exempt.

Jan. 19, 1966: The Selective Service reclassifies Dick Cheney 3-A, "deferred from military service because service would cause hardship upon his family," because his wife is pregnant with their first child.

July 28, 1966: Elizabeth Cheney is born.

Jan. 30, 1967: Dick Cheney turns 26 and therefore becomes ineligible for the draft.

 

[rdean]

Good point Murf..

Iraq did have chemical weapons....25 years ago
Notice how when he was viciously attacked by US troops in Desert Storm..he never went to his chemical weapons
Notice how when he launched Scuds against Israel....he never used chemical weapons

Hans Blick reported before the US invasion that he did not see evidence of WMDs and could prove it with more time....Cheney said we did not have more time

Guess who was right?

Saddam Hussein was a monster, and a fool. But he wasn't an utter moron. There was no way he was going to use chemical bombs on westerners.

This guy went all out to convince the world that he had more in the way of weapons than what he actually had.... and he fully expected to play the victim if he got called on it. Like other tin pot dictators, he knew he'd never beat us militarily. He needed the good will of useful idiots around the globe to call us off if we went for his throat.

Saddam underestimated our determination on the matter though. But then again, his world was an insular one, where people who gave him bad news suffered the consequences of his displeasure. No wonder he couldn't truly appreciate his danger until it was much too late.



Oh... and all this rehash of Bush/Cheney/Iraq is an OBVIOUS deflection, btw., to try and paper over the fact that your guy can't get his thumb out of his ass. No joy.

Quite an expert on Saddam. Or is that just how you "imagine" him to be?

Eventually, for the Republican Party to be a real Party, they will have to look at the world the way it really is, and "NOT" the way YOU GUYS imagine it to be.

Saddam bought the materials to make his poisen gas from western nations. We knew what he had and what he didn't have.

For God's sakes, the guy was a thug who lived out in a the desert. He wasn't some "super genius" bent on the destruction of the US, him and his "mini me". That's how ridiculous he truly was. It's Republicans who gave him credibility.

If you really want to know what you guys did, check out the current state of the Christian religion in Iraq. Or women's rights. Or read their constitution that makes "Islam" the national religion and the ramifications. Just stop clinging to lies and open your eyes to reality. The time for those idiot conservative catch phrases is past. That was all BS.

SNAP OUT OF IT!

 

[Jay Canuck]

Cheney hammers 'afraid' Obama on national security
Posted: October 22nd, 2009 09:53 AM ET
(CNN) - After a summer in which Dick Cheney dialed back his attacks on President Obama's national security polices, the former vice president told a conservative gathering Wednesday that the Obama administration had damaged America's relationship with key allies, dangerously wavered in Afghanistan, undermined progress in Iraq, and intentionally sabotaged the Bush administration's national security legacy.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Cheney is part of the rightwing alternate universe that exists only in their mind.

The great majority don't give a crap what Cheney thinks.

 

[Murf76]

The additional troops are not reinforcements. They will be used to expand the existing US area of control within Afghanistan.
Putting additional men and women in harms way should not be taken lightly. The military needs to define an executable exit strategy and timeline using concrete achievable milestones.
In the absence of that all we have is another Viet Nam with peacekeepers performing no definable strategy. Johnson anguished over every troop escallation but in the end, deferred to his generals. 50,000 men paid the price

Well, it kind of stands to reason that not allowing an enemy to attack you from his chosen ground would reinforce the operation as well as the troops on the ground.
You're splitting hairs.

At the bottom line, if Obama is too big a pussy to get the job done, he needs to bring our troops home. He's leaving them out there to die for the sake of POLITICS... all so his pacifist leftie base won't be miffed with him. He can spin it any way he wants and his supporters can lick it up off his little pink booties, but it is what it is.

He didn't just become president yesterday you know. And this war didn't begin yesterday either. All the time he was running for president and all the time he's been sitting in office he's had to develop a strategy. Hell, he should have been giving serious consideration to Afghanistan as a U.S. senator. And Cheney's point was that the strategy Obama announced in May is not the one he's executing. Nor is he executing any other.

It's inexcusable. And Socialist Democrats are out of their fucking minds if they think we're not watching.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

At least his strategy of a troop surge was SUCCESSFUL in Iraq....

No it wasn't. Paying the Sunnis not to shoot at us was successful. The surge had little to no effect.

 

[Murf76]

Quite an expert on Saddam. Or is that just how you "imagine" him to be?

Eventually, for the Republican Party to be a real Party, they will have to look at the world the way it really is, and "NOT" the way YOU GUYS imagine it to be.

Saddam bought the materials to make his poisen gas from western nations. We knew what he had and what he didn't have.

For God's sakes, the guy was a thug who lived out in a the desert. He wasn't some "super genius" bent on the destruction of the US, him and his "mini me". That's how ridiculous he truly was. It's Republicans who gave him credibility.

If you really want to know what you guys did, check out the current state of the Christian religion in Iraq. Or women's rights. Or read their constitution that makes "Islam" the national religion and the ramifications. Just stop clinging to lies and open your eyes to reality. The time for those idiot conservative catch phrases is past. That was all BS.

SNAP OUT OF IT!

More blah-blah to deflect from the fact that Obama's a clueless novice regarding military strategy.
He's an empty suit, just like we said he would be... and he's getting people killed because of it.


Saddam Hussein is irrelevant... and dead. But if you want to know more about him as a matter of historical interest, there are lots of books and video available. Dust off your library card and have at.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Bombshell: Cheney to deliver speech bashing "Obama's" March 2009 strategy.

So we have Dick Cheney providing advice on how to properly execute a war...

The man who:
- Stated "The smoking gun will be a mushroom cloud"
- Stated "They will treat us as liberators"
- Advocated torture of prisoners
- Cooked intelligence to get the justification for war he wanted
- Alienated all of our allies
- Still believes Iraq was involved in 9-11

This is the man you want to take advice from on how to properly execute a war? He has been wrong on every decision. Other than do the opposite of what he suggests, why would you listen to him?

You got your quotes and bullets all messed up drunkard....look into that.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Man, you guys are just great.

The US government knew exactly what Saddam had. Remember, Iraq has/had no industry and no manufacturing. That means everything, and I mean everything is imported.
If anyone believes that a country without manufacturing or industry could make WMDs, then they are a fool.

After 9/11, every country in the world was willing to share what they sold to Iraq with the US. If only so they don't appear to be collaborators.

If you think Iraq had absolutely no manufacturing capability whatsoever then you are a whole lot dumber than I originally thought.

 

[EriktheRed]

I predict about as many people who care about Palin will care about this speech. 25% approximately of extreme rightwingnuts.

Yeah, but our so-called Liberal Media™ will likely give it tons of airtime and analysis anyway, like they did earlier this year.

 

[rdean]

Quite an expert on Saddam. Or is that just how you "imagine" him to be?

Eventually, for the Republican Party to be a real Party, they will have to look at the world the way it really is, and "NOT" the way YOU GUYS imagine it to be.

Saddam bought the materials to make his poisen gas from western nations. We knew what he had and what he didn't have.

For God's sakes, the guy was a thug who lived out in a the desert. He wasn't some "super genius" bent on the destruction of the US, him and his "mini me". That's how ridiculous he truly was. It's Republicans who gave him credibility.

If you really want to know what you guys did, check out the current state of the Christian religion in Iraq. Or women's rights. Or read their constitution that makes "Islam" the national religion and the ramifications. Just stop clinging to lies and open your eyes to reality. The time for those idiot conservative catch phrases is past. That was all BS.

SNAP OUT OF IT!

More blah-blah to deflect from the fact that Obama's a clueless novice regarding military strategy.
He's an empty suit, just like we said he would be... and he's getting people killed because of it.


Saddam Hussein is irrelevant... and dead. But if you want to know more about him as a matter of historical interest, there are lots of books and video available. Dust off your library card and have at.

Oh, now Saddam is irrelevant? Is that how it is?

Hey, check out this kid doing a smack down on Chuck Norris:

Guest on Fox News tells Chuck Norris:Iraq safer under Saddam • videosift.com

 

[rightwinger]

Bombshell: Cheney to deliver speech bashing "Obama's" March 2009 strategy.

So we have Dick Cheney providing advice on how to properly execute a war...

The man who:
- Stated "The smoking gun will be a mushroom cloud"
- Stated "They will treat us as liberators"
- Advocated torture of prisoners
- Cooked intelligence to get the justification for war he wanted
- Alienated all of our allies
- Still believes Iraq was involved in 9-11

This is the man you want to take advice from on how to properly execute a war? He has been wrong on every decision. Other than do the opposite of what he suggests, why would you listen to him?

You got your quotes and bullets all messed up drunkard....look into that.

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[Intense]

Dems have always been bad on military.

 

[rdean]

Man, you guys are just great.

The US government knew exactly what Saddam had. Remember, Iraq has/had no industry and no manufacturing. That means everything, and I mean everything is imported.
If anyone believes that a country without manufacturing or industry could make WMDs, then they are a fool.

After 9/11, every country in the world was willing to share what they sold to Iraq with the US. If only so they don't appear to be collaborators.

If you think Iraq had absolutely no manufacturing capability whatsoever then you are a whole lot dumber than I originally thought.

That's why butt head Right wingers are "extreme". Because all they know is "extreme". Every country has some kind of manufacturing and industry. Even if it's carving beads and making manure.

But did Saddam have the manufacturing capability to make supersonic jets and chemical weapons? Since he bought them from outside, then I suppose the answer is "guess not".

what a butt head.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dems have always been bad on military.

That's not true at all!

They were the biggest supporters of the NVA during Vietnam and then the Iraqi Insurgency.