Boycott Israel

[Hollie]

The bottom line is that no agreement between the occupying power and the occupied can allow the violation of the people's rights.

The fallacy is in the idea that there was an "occupying power" and an "occupied territory" in 1994. There was not. The government of the nascent State of Palestine, representing the people of Palestine, was for the FIRST TIME taking steps towards self-governing -- notably the ability to enter into agreements with States. There can't be an occupation of something which doesn't exist (that is a State).

Israel recognized Palestine as a state when it signed an agreement with it.

Meh. Not convinced that is entirely true, but close enough and let's go with that. In 1994 Israel recognized Palestine as a state. Cool.

What territory did Israel recognize as no longer under Israeli sovereignty? On which territory was Palestine self-governing? According to the Oslo Agreement?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine but was not turned over to Palestinian authority and could, post-Oslo, still be considered "occupied"?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine

It doesn't matter what Israel recognizes.

It doesn't matter that you believe an islamic terrorist enclave is a "state".

 

[Hollie]

 

[P F Tinmore]

The bottom line is that no agreement between the occupying power and the occupied can allow the violation of the people's rights.

The fallacy is in the idea that there was an "occupying power" and an "occupied territory" in 1994. There was not. The government of the nascent State of Palestine, representing the people of Palestine, was for the FIRST TIME taking steps towards self-governing -- notably the ability to enter into agreements with States. There can't be an occupation of something which doesn't exist (that is a State).

Israel recognized Palestine as a state when it signed an agreement with it.

Meh. Not convinced that is entirely true, but close enough and let's go with that. In 1994 Israel recognized Palestine as a state. Cool.

What territory did Israel recognize as no longer under Israeli sovereignty? On which territory was Palestine self-governing? According to the Oslo Agreement?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine but was not turned over to Palestinian authority and could, post-Oslo, still be considered "occupied"?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine

It doesn't matter what Israel recognizes.

It doesn't matter that you believe an islamic terrorist enclave is a "state".

What you believe does not matter either.

 

[Hollie]

The fallacy is in the idea that there was an "occupying power" and an "occupied territory" in 1994. There was not. The government of the nascent State of Palestine, representing the people of Palestine, was for the FIRST TIME taking steps towards self-governing -- notably the ability to enter into agreements with States. There can't be an occupation of something which doesn't exist (that is a State).

Israel recognized Palestine as a state when it signed an agreement with it.

Meh. Not convinced that is entirely true, but close enough and let's go with that. In 1994 Israel recognized Palestine as a state. Cool.

What territory did Israel recognize as no longer under Israeli sovereignty? On which territory was Palestine self-governing? According to the Oslo Agreement?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine but was not turned over to Palestinian authority and could, post-Oslo, still be considered "occupied"?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine

It doesn't matter what Israel recognizes.

It doesn't matter that you believe an islamic terrorist enclave is a "state".

What you believe does not matter either.

Actually, it does. Facts are valuable as we proceed through a logical progression of ideas and events that lead us to conclusions.

Your insistence of some imagined / invented Arab-Moslem "state" you believe exists is contrary to facts. I understand you tend to be averse to facts so not to worry.

You folks frequently stumble over the facts. Unfortunately, you tend to dust yourselves off and proceed on as if nothing has happened.

 

[Hollie]

 

[Shusha]

The bottom line is that no agreement between the occupying power and the occupied can allow the violation of the people's rights.

The fallacy is in the idea that there was an "occupying power" and an "occupied territory" in 1994. There was not. The government of the nascent State of Palestine, representing the people of Palestine, was for the FIRST TIME taking steps towards self-governing -- notably the ability to enter into agreements with States. There can't be an occupation of something which doesn't exist (that is a State).

Israel recognized Palestine as a state when it signed an agreement with it.

Meh. Not convinced that is entirely true, but close enough and let's go with that. In 1994 Israel recognized Palestine as a state. Cool.

What territory did Israel recognize as no longer under Israeli sovereignty? On which territory was Palestine self-governing? According to the Oslo Agreement?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine but was not turned over to Palestinian authority and could, post-Oslo, still be considered "occupied"?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine

It doesn't matter what Israel recognizes.

You brought it up. What was the point of bringing it up if it doesn't matter?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The bottom line is that no agreement between the occupying power and the occupied can allow the violation of the people's rights.

The fallacy is in the idea that there was an "occupying power" and an "occupied territory" in 1994. There was not. The government of the nascent State of Palestine, representing the people of Palestine, was for the FIRST TIME taking steps towards self-governing -- notably the ability to enter into agreements with States. There can't be an occupation of something which doesn't exist (that is a State).

Israel recognized Palestine as a state when it signed an agreement with it.

Meh. Not convinced that is entirely true, but close enough and let's go with that. In 1994 Israel recognized Palestine as a state. Cool.

What territory did Israel recognize as no longer under Israeli sovereignty? On which territory was Palestine self-governing? According to the Oslo Agreement?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine but was not turned over to Palestinian authority and could, post-Oslo, still be considered "occupied"?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine

It doesn't matter what Israel recognizes.

You brought it up. What was the point of bringing it up if it doesn't matter?

You brought it up.

 

[Shusha]

The fallacy is in the idea that there was an "occupying power" and an "occupied territory" in 1994. There was not. The government of the nascent State of Palestine, representing the people of Palestine, was for the FIRST TIME taking steps towards self-governing -- notably the ability to enter into agreements with States. There can't be an occupation of something which doesn't exist (that is a State).

Israel recognized Palestine as a state when it signed an agreement with it.

Meh. Not convinced that is entirely true, but close enough and let's go with that. In 1994 Israel recognized Palestine as a state. Cool.

What territory did Israel recognize as no longer under Israeli sovereignty? On which territory was Palestine self-governing? According to the Oslo Agreement?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine but was not turned over to Palestinian authority and could, post-Oslo, still be considered "occupied"?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine

It doesn't matter what Israel recognizes.

You brought it up. What was the point of bringing it up if it doesn't matter?

You brought it up.

Lol. You are just avoiding the question.

Again, the fallacy is in the idea that there was an occupied territory in 1994. There was not.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel recognized Palestine as a state when it signed an agreement with it.

Meh. Not convinced that is entirely true, but close enough and let's go with that. In 1994 Israel recognized Palestine as a state. Cool.

What territory did Israel recognize as no longer under Israeli sovereignty? On which territory was Palestine self-governing? According to the Oslo Agreement?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine but was not turned over to Palestinian authority and could, post-Oslo, still be considered "occupied"?

Therefore, in particular, what territory was recognized by Israel as belonging to Palestine

It doesn't matter what Israel recognizes.

You brought it up. What was the point of bringing it up if it doesn't matter?

You brought it up.

Lol. You are just avoiding the question.

Again, the fallacy is in the idea that there was an occupied territory in 1994. There was not.

Jordan occupied Palestinian territory until 1967 when Israel occupied Palestinian territory. It is still occupied Palestinian territory.

 

[Shusha]

Jordan occupied Palestinian territory until 1967 when Israel occupied Palestinian territory. It is still occupied Palestinian territory.

The fallacy is that the territory was a State of Palestine prior to 1994, which is the first time a Government of Palestine was recognized and actually, you know, existed. Thus there was (and IS) nothing to occupy.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jordan occupied Palestinian territory until 1967 when Israel occupied Palestinian territory. It is still occupied Palestinian territory.

The fallacy is that the territory was a State of Palestine prior to 1994, which is the first time a Government of Palestine was recognized and actually, you know, existed. Thus there was (and IS) nothing to occupy.

So?

 

[Shusha]

Jordan occupied Palestinian territory until 1967 when Israel occupied Palestinian territory. It is still occupied Palestinian territory.

The fallacy is that the territory was a State of Palestine prior to 1994, which is the first time a Government of Palestine was recognized and actually, you know, existed. Thus there was (and IS) nothing to occupy.

So?

So, there is no occupation and no occupied territory.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ look who wants to boycott ]

PA soccer chief urges Spanish team not to play in Jerusalem

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ For how long must Israel continue to take care of those who want to destroy her? Must have been an emergency since Abbas did not go to Israel the last time he needed health care ]

PLO bigwig Jibril Rajoub, who used to be famous for breaking opponents’ knees in broad daylight as head of the Palestinian Authority’s Preventive Security Force, on Thursday was evacuated to Ichilov Hospital in Tel Aviv for urgent medical treatment. And while receiving the best medical care in the Middle East, Rajoub, in his current role as Chairman of the Palestinian Football Association, continues to exert heavy political pressure designed to cancel the visit of the Atlético Madrid soccer team in Israel for a friendly match against Beitar Jerusalem. The game is scheduled for May 21.

(full article online)

While Under Urgent Medical Care in Tel Aviv, BDS Leader Obstructs Spanish Team’s Visit to Jerusalem

 

[Sixties Fan]

Turning the word "Israel" toxic: The real goal of BDS can be seen in Berlin ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

The importance of Swiss petitions, according to Roger Waters ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

Former Miss Iraq Dismisses Anti-Israel Tirade by Roger Waters: ‘Use Your Power for Good, Bring People Together’

 

[Sixties Fan]

Iranian judo agrees to end decades-long boycott of Israeli athletes

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Could someone please, put an end to the Oslo Accords and to the PA which was created by it? ]

PA demands Israel remove Jerusalem from Eurovision promo videos

 

[Sixties Fan]

Gefen Primo wins the bronze, Tohar Butbul wins a silver medal and the great Sagi Muki wins the gold medal in Baku, Azerbaijan.

Israeli judokas win three medals at Grand Slam Championship