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So how did that work out as a defense?Yeah and he said it's gonna be a blast or words to that effect.
How Trump's 'will be wild!' tweet drew rioters to the Capitol on Jan. 6
In the cases against the hundreds of Capitol riot defendants, attorneys repeatedly reference how Trump's tweet motivated rioters to come to Washington, D.C. — sometimes with weapons and armor in tow.www.npr.org
Not real well. Of course it wasn't a defense. Just an accurate presentation of the situationSo how did that work out as a defense?
Wrong, it was presented as a possible defense ( to get off) which was blown away by prosecution and the Judge.Not real well. Of course it wasn't a defense. Just an accurate presentation of the situation
linkWrong, it was presented as a possible defense ( to get off) which was blown away by prosecution and the Judge.
Ha ha ha.....dem public defenders working with dem prosecutors in a dem Trump hating town.
How'd the Sussman jury work out?
There is no equivalence.
Who told anyone to riot on Jan 6?
That Bernie admiring nutburger shot several people. The capitol police are the only ones who shot anyone on Jan 6.
Uh oh.....
The “Trump-made-me-do-it” defense is already looking like a longshot.
Facing damning evidence in the deadly Capitol siege last month — including social media posts flaunting their actions — rioters are arguing in court they were following then-President Donald Trump's instructions on Jan. 6. But the legal strategy has already been shot down by at least one judge and experts believe the argument is not likely to get anyone off the hook for the insurrection where five people died, including a police officer.
“This purported defense, if recognized, would undermine the rule of law because then, just like a king or a dictator, the president could dictate what’s illegal and what isn’t in this country," U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell said recently in ordering pretrial detention of William Chrestman, a suspected member of the Kansas City-area chapter of the Proud Boys. “And that is not how we operate here.”
'Blame Trump' defense in Capitol riot looks like a long shot
WASHINGTON (AP) — Mentions of Donald Trump have been rare at the first few trials for people charged with storming the U.S. Capitol, but that changed Tuesday: The latest Capitol riot defendant to go on trial is blaming his actions on the former president and his false claims about a stolen election.
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“It’s Donald Trump himself spewing the lies and using his position to authorize this assault,” Shamansky told jurors Tuesday during the trial’s opening statements.
Justice Department prosecutor Jennifer Rozzoni said Thompson knew he was breaking the law that day.
“He chose to be a part of the mayhem and chaos,” she said.
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Prosecutors said Thompson can’t show that Trump or Giuliani had the authority to “empower” him to break the law. They also noted that video of the rally speeches “perfectly captures” the tone, delivery and context of the statements to the extent they are “marginally relevant” to proof of Thompson’s intent on Jan. 6.
Blame Trump? Jury hears that defense at Capitol riot trial
So how many got off using that defense?
Joe Biden is a pretender.Lots of patriots going to the wall for a shit stain like trump. A few good men killed and over a hundred injured so trump could be president again even though those at the ballot box said no. The scum bag wouldn't even allow Joe Biden his transition period like every other president has allowed the out going president has done, republican or democrat.
And you would have been informed that Trump wanted the magnetometers that would have detected those weapons REMOVED from the ElipseA pity you didn't watch the J6 hearings. Had you, you would have known Trump was informed that some people there that day were armed.
Good. We should be using real weapons. Next time you morons try to steal an election.And you would have been informed that Trump wanted the magnetometers that would have detected those weapons REMOVED from the Elipse
What the fuck are you trying to say? The attempt to steal an election was done by Trump Humpers and they did have real weapons.Good. We should be using real weapons. Next time you morons try to steal an election.
So? SO FUCKING WHAT ???What the fuck are you trying to say? The attempt to steal an election was done by Trump Humpers and they did have real weapons.
They injured 140 cops and hospitalized dozens of them
It’s a fantasy. Somehow you still think that the FBI told people to riot.THAT is the bottom line ... period.
It’s a fantasy. Somehow you still think that the FBI told people to riot.
Had Pelosi, the Sergeants-At-Arms, & DC Mayor called for the National Guard Troops prior to J6 when they had tbe chance J6 would never have happened.
Had Pelosi & the Sergeants-At-Arms provided the Capitol Police with the resources they needed (FENCING around the Capitol capitol, not barricades the Capitil Police / the FBI moved) J6 would never have happened.
Had the FBI acted to PREVENT the J6 violence and to protect the Capitol instead of spending months / weeks prior to J6 infiltrating the Oath Keepers, recruiting, prepping, planning, organizing, and executing 'ENTRAPMENT SCHEME' OPERATIONS - as they testified they did do - against US citizens, operations which included no less than 28 undercover FBI & ATF agents, including undercover agents dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol before it was breeched for the purpose of luring people into the Capitol, J6 would never have happened.
THAT is the bottom line ... period.
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YOU are a fucking liar.It’s a fantasy. Somehow you still think that the FBI told people to riot.
They didn’t. Trump supporters did what they did because they were devoted to Trump and believed his lies.
If the Capitol police are guilty of anything, they’re guilty of not believing that Trump’s supporters would engage in so much violence.
There’s no evidence that supports the delusion that the riot was promoted by FBI or any federal agency.You're still a delusional, reality-denying, testimony/fact-rejecting twat.
& now for the truth:
IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
See the sources for this fact-check
- Capitol security is not solely the responsibility of the House speaker. It is provided by the sergeants-at-arms of the House and Senate, and by the Capitol Police.
- The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader — on Jan. 6, Sen. Mitch McConnell.
- News reports indicate that in the days before the attack, House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving resisted calls from the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard for extra security at the Capitol because of “optics.” Irving later testified that intelligence reports didn’t show the need for the extra security, not that he rejected it because of optics.
PolitiFact - No, Capitol security is not only Pelosi’s responsibility, but she bears some
Rep. Jim Jordan’s false claim that Pelosi denied a request for National Guard troops
March 1, 2021|Updated March 5, 2021 at 1:27 p.m. EST
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“Capitol Police requested National Guard help prior to January 6th. That request was denied by Speaker Pelosi and her Sergeant at Arms.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), in a tweet, Feb. 15, 2021
The Facts
There are three key players here: Steven A. Sund, the U.S. Capitol Police chief; Paul D. Irving, the House sergeant-at-arms, and Michael C. Stenger, the Senate sergeant-at-arms. All three resigned under pressure after the Jan. 6 insurrection.
ree key players here: Steven A. Sund, the U.S. Capitol Police chief; Paul D. Irving, the House sergeant-at-arms, and Michael C. Stenger, the Senate sergeant-at-arms. All three resigned under pressure after the Jan. 6 insurrection.
In a Feb. 1 letter to Pelosi, Sund wrote he “approached the two Sergeants at Arms to request the assistance of the National Guard, as I had no authority to do so without an Emergency Declaration by the Capitol Police Board (CPB).” He said he spoke first to Irving, who “stated that he was concerned about the ‘optics’ and didn’t feel that the intelligence supported it.” Irving suggested Sund check in with Stenger, at the time chair of the CPB and get his thoughts. “Instead of approving the use of the National Guard, however, Mr. Stenger suggested I ask them how quickly we could get support if needed and to ‘lean forward’ in case we had to request assistance on January 6,” Sund wrote.
Sund said he then contacted Gen. William Walker, commanding officer of the D.C. National Guard. Walker “advised that he could repurpose 125 National Guard and have them to me fairly quickly, once approved. I asked General Walker to be prepared in the event that we requested them.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-pelosi-denied-request-national-guard-troops/
Fact check: Trump repeats false claim that Pelosi rejected request for National Guard ahead of Jan. 6
USA TODAY
Dec. 16, 2021
Fact check: Trump repeats false claim that Pelosi rejected request for National Guard ahead of Jan. 6
Pelosi did not block the National Guard from the Capitol on Jan. 6
By ARIJETA LAJKAJuly 23, 2021
CLAIM: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi blocked the National Guard from coming to the Capitol during the Jan. 6 insurrection.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. As Speaker of the House, Pelosi does not direct the National Guard. Further, as the Capitol came under attack, she and the Senate Majority leader called for military assistance, including the National Guard.
THE FACTS: On Tuesday, a false claim about the deadly Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol resurfaced suggesting that Pelosi blocked the National Guard from coming to lawmakers’ defense during the insurrection at the Capitol.
“@SpeakerPelosi, why did you block the National Guard from protecting the Capitol?” Indiana Rep. Jim Banks tweeted.
Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy posed a similar question on Fox News saying, “Was there a decision by the Speaker not to have the National Guard at the Capitol that day?”
The answer is no.
“On January 6th, the Speaker, a target of an assassination attempt that day, was no more in charge of Capitol security than Mitch McConnell was. This is a clear attempt to whitewash what happened on January 6th and divert blame,” Drew Hammill, a spokesperson for Pelosi told The Associated Press in an email.
The decision on whether to call National Guard troops to the Capitol is made by what is known as the Capitol Police Board, which is made up of the House Sergeant at Arms, the Senate Sergeant at Arms and the Architect of the Capitol. The board decided not to call the guard ahead of the insurrection but did eventually request assistance after the rioting had already begun, and the troops arrived several hours later.
The House Sergeant at Arms reports to Pelosi and the Senate Sergeant at Arms reported to McConnell, a Republican who was then Senate Majority Leader. There is no evidence that either directed the security officials not to call the guard beforehand, and Hammill said after the insurrection that Pelosi was never informed of such a request.
The officials on the board, along with the former Capitol Police chief, Steven Sund, have disputed each others’ accounts of who requested the guard when. Both Sergeants of Arms and the police chief resigned immediately after the attack.
Once Trump’s supporters were assaulting police and breaking into the building, Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer appealed to military leaders, asking the Army to deploy the National Guard.
“The Speaker believes security officials should make security decisions. The Speaker immediately signaled her support for the deployment of the National Guard when she was presented with that recommendation on the afternoon of January 6th. Public testimony confirms the fact that the Speaker was not made aware of any request for such a deployment prior to then,” Hammill said in a statement this week.
Republicans have falsely laid the blame on Pelosi without mentioning that GOP Leader McConnell had similar authority over the security officials that day. But there is no evidence that either was involved in any effort to block the National Guard before or during the insurrection.
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Associated Press writer Mary Clare Jalonick in Washington contributed to this story.
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This is part of The Associated Press’ ongoing effort to address widely shared misinformation, including work with Facebook and other platforms to add context to misleading content and reduce its circulation online.
Pelosi did not block the National Guard from the Capitol on Jan. 6
Can the president order the National Guard?
The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law that empowers the President of the United States to deploy U.S. military and federalized National Guard troops within the United States in particular circumstances, such as to suppress civil disorder, insurrection, or rebellion. ~ wiki
the buck stopped with trump. he never called them in to protect the congress critters from his flying monkeys.
mike pence had to do it.
howeverrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... it has come to light that mark meadows - who is in such deep doo doo gave over a power point presentation in his possession, that the NG were to be instructed to
' protect pro trump people'
Meadows Jan. 5 email indicated Guard on standby to ‘protect pro Trump people,’ investigators say
Meadows Jan. 5 email indicated Guard on standby to ‘protect pro Trump people,’ investigators say
DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol
Walker calls restrictions on his ability to deploy his force ‘unusual’
Scores of District of Columbia National Guardsmen loaded on buses at the Washington Armory and were ready to deploy as pro-Trump rioters breached the Capitol on Jan. 6, but minutes turned into hours as they awaited permission from the Pentagon to move out.
Maj. Gen. William J. Walker, the commander of the D.C. National Guard, told lawmakers Wednesday that written instructions issued ahead of the insurrection from then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy limited his ability to deploy his troops where, as a commander, he felt they were needed.
On Jan. 6, Walker and top officials from the U.S. Capitol Police and Metropolitan Police Department pleaded for permission to send the National Guard to help secure the Capitol during a phone call around 2:22 p.m. with defense officials. But Walker said he didn’t receive the go-ahead to send his troops to the Capitol until just after 5 p.m.
Because the District of Columbia is not a state and thus does not have a governor, the president is the commander in chief of the D.C. National Guard. The chain of command runs down to the Defense secretary and the Army secretary.
‘Unusual’ restrictions
McCarthy’s written instructions from Jan. 5 required Walker to seek specific permission to deploy a 40-member quick reaction team. McCarthy also required Walker to send him a “concept of operation” before that team could be used.
“Based on the Defense Department’s public timeline, once requested, it took the National Guard over three hours to arrive at the Capitol. Now remember, we were all watching this on CNN, and Fox and MSNBC, and it’s a riot,” the Ohio Republican said. “We need to know why the Pentagon took so long to deploy the National Guard.”
DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol
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However it is a STONE COLD FACT thatThere’s no evidence that supports the delusion that the riot was promoted by FBI or any federal agency.
Zero.
No testimony. No facts. Nothing.
