BREAKING: Judicial Watch Files $30 Million Wrongful Death Lawsuit against U.S. Government on Behalf of Ashli Babbitt’s Husband and Estate

[martybegan]

Yes, for all force including use of deadly force.

He knew a mob of violent thugs was behind her. He couldn’t see the police. You’re going to criticize him for not being able to see through people?

So. fucking. wrong.

Deadly force use has it's own rules and regulations. stop pretending otherwise.

 

[citygator]

So they are suing Donald Trump’s government for stopping Donald Trump’s supporters from attacking the capitol building on behalf of Donald Trump? Hilarious. I hope the current administration counter sues the Ashley Babbitt family for letting her get so stupidly embedded in fake conspiracy theories.

 

[Marener]

It’s a higher level than mere “safety” stop lying. You have to be facing an imminent threat of lethal harm. You don’t get to trade a punch in the arm for shot dead in the face . That’s murder.

Imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm actually.

 

[WEATHER53]

That’s false. He was the closest office to the door.

Nope they were out in a hallway like area and she crawled through a busted glass laden windows and was on hands and knees after crawling in. Closest office nonsense introduction

 

[WEATHER53]

Imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm actually.

And not mere safety which is a Far Lower level of threat.

 

[MAGA Macho Man]

Clay Higgins is a pandering piece of shit who will tell you whatever gets you to vote for him.

The officers were heavily outnumbered and attempting to arrest Babbitt would put them at the mercy of other rioters coming through the window they smashed in.

There were 5 to six cops standing at the door next to Babbitt as she tried to stop the Antifa thug from breaking more door glass with a helmet. They could have easily took action and zip tied them but didn't. They could have easily grabbed Ashli as she tried to climb through the window and pulled her back into the hallway and zip tied her. Video shows they just stood there.

 

[Marener]

So. fucking. wrong.

Deadly force use has it's own rules and regulations. stop pretending otherwise.

It doesn’t require police to have x-ray vision to see through the mob into the officers standing in the back of the crowd.

 

[Marener]

And not mere safety which is a Far Lower level of threat.

I was closer than you were, but not to quibble.

The standard was met.

 

[martybegan]

It doesn’t require police to have x-ray vision to see through the mob into the officers standing in the back of the crowd.

If they are going to send a bullet in that direction they are responsible for it if it misses the target in question.

 

[Marener]

There were 5 to six cops standing at the door next to Babbitt as she tried to stop the Antifa thug from breaking more door glass with a helmet. They could have easily took action and zip tied them but didn't. They could have easily grabbed Ashli as she tried to climb through the window and pulled her back into the hallway and zip tied her. Video shows they just stood there.

No, officers who are heavily outnumbered by the crowd are extremely limited by what they can and can’t do. That’s why you don’t see them confronting the crowd. The three officers standing in front of the door left before they smashed it in because the crowd threatened them if they stood in their way.

No one could have easily done anything, not without risking their safety.

 

[martybegan]

No, officers who are heavily outnumbered by the crowd are extremely limited by what they can and can’t do. That’s why you don’t see them confronting the crowd. The three officers standing in front of the door left before they smashed it in because the crowd threatened them if they stood in their way.

No one could have easily done anything, not without risking their safety.

And blasting a random unarmed woman wouldn't put those officers at more risk?

 

[BlindBoo]

A mob with a bunch of far more armed cops milling around with it.

Show me where in the federal use of deadly force rules "encouragement les autres" is allowed.

The Police on other side of the Doorway abandoned their position before the other, more well armed officers could take up their position guarding that side of the doorway, allowing the rioters to begin smashing through the barricade in which poor Mrs. Babbitt felt empowered/encouraged by lies to climbed through.

 

[Marener]

If they are going to send a bullet in that direction they are responsible for it if it misses the target in question.

Not really. The police are protected from collateral damage when the use of force is justified.

Not that it matters because he didn’t miss.

 

[Marener]

And blasting a random unarmed woman wouldn't put those officers at more risk?

How would it put them more at risk? They neutralized the most immediate threat.

She wasn’t random. Far from it.

 

[martybegan]

The Police on other side of the Doorway abandoned their position before the other, more well armed officers could take up their position guarding that side of the doorway, allowing the rioters to begin smashing through the barricade in which poor Mrs. Babbitt felt empowered/encouraged by lies to climbed through.

And yet none of them felt the need to open fire.

 

[martybegan]

How would it put them more at risk? They neutralized the most immediate threat.

She wasn’t random. Far from it.

She was more of a threat than the large men actually trying to break down the door?

Are you fucking retarded or something?

 

[BlindBoo]

And blasting a random unarmed woman wouldn't put those officers at more risk?

She wasn't random at all. She was breaching a barricaded doorway. She would not have been shot if she hadn't tried to breach the armed barricade.

 

[martybegan]

She wasn't random at all. She was breaching a barricaded doorway. She would not have been shot if she hadn't tried to breach the armed barricade.

And she was more of a risk than the large men actually trying to break the doorway?

 

[WEATHER53]

There were 5 to six cops standing at the door next to Babbitt as she tried to stop the Antifa thug from breaking more door glass with a helmet. They could have easily took action and zip tied them but didn't. They could have easily grabbed Ashli as she tried to climb through the window and pulled her back into the hallway and zip tied her. Video shows they just stood there.

Yes this Fact of multiple officers closer to Babbit than her murderer is not going away and Any jury will be sympathetic

 

[BlindBoo]

And yet none of them felt the need to open fire.

None were in a position to fire. Neither the guards who were intimidated by the rioters to leave nor the guards waiting in the nearby stairwell could see the breach in progress that got her killed.