Breaking News, North Korea did NOT launch an ICBM as CNN said

[Hutch Starskey]

but bassman the asshat is never wrong, he said so.

He was wrong.

I was correct, since the rocket carried no nuclear payload, and did not travel over 5500 miles, nor can it be demonstrated that the NK have the ability to pack a nuclear payload into a missile, the rocket fired can not be considered an ICBM.

But that's OK, you keep believing the news that says that Hillary is the President

You got that little acorn for brains

It went high enough, that with the proper guidance system, that missile could reach Alaska.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

A test rocket that might blow up on the launch pad as North Korean missiles do can never be considered an ICBM as it has no payload, primarily because it has a high rate of blowing up over it's own country. Thus, there is no evidence that North Korea has an ICBM since there is no evidence that they can produce a dependable rocket to carry a nuclear payload. However you are free to believe the news that says clearly that President Hillary Clinton is handling this situation.

Argue all you want, I am never wrong

Fox is not spelled C-N-N. Your thread just died, and you will be laughed at.

Fox News: North Korea successfully test-launched ICBM, US officials confirm

Did the missile fly 5500 or more miles and carry a nuclear payload, because these are the qualifications to be considered an ICBM. Since this never happened I am correct and you are a fake news believer

Next Bozo

You may now resume pulling your own fingers

It doesn't have to carry a nuclear payload in order to be considered an ICBM.

The ICBM is just the delivery vehicle.

 

[Ted Frazier]

Could a North Korean missile hit Australia?

Where could a North Korean intercontinental ballistic missile hit?
Updated yesterday at 8:20pmTue 4 Jul 2017, 8:20pm

North Korea claims it fired a Hwasong-14 missile which reached an altitude of 2,802 kilometres and flew 933km in 39 minutes.

David Wright, co-director of the Global Security Program at the US-based Union of Concerned Scientists, said the missile was fired at a "very highly lofted trajectory".

If the missile had been fired at a standard trajectory, he said it could have a maximum range of 6,700km.

That means it is not an ICBM...................nor is there any evidence that NK has a nuke that can fit in a missile

Just so you know that Australia is a continent. I'm providing a picture for you that even your little mind can hopefully comprehend.

The rocket that NK launched could not hit Australia or anywhere else, and even if it did, the Nuclear bomb that NK has is as big as a dump truck and would not fit onto that little missile.

Bye the way the last one of these tinkertoys that NK launched blew up on the pad...................

Next

No, the last one they launched just went into space before crashing into the sea that is part of Japan's property.

You can't get anything right...

You never were too bright were you?
North Korea missile test: Latest launch 'blew up almost immediately'

Your link is 3 months old. That one is no longer the "latest missile".

 

[JimH52]

That sound you all just heard was little bassman running away from the argument at top speed, tail clamped tightly between his hind legs, calling more insults over his shoulder as he disappears for the horizon.

LOL you seem to be a complete schizophrenic fool, who believes that the piles of shit that can barely lift off the Launchpad, then go any which way without guidance are ICBM's.

That is what Rex Tillis called it. Is he a liar, like his boss?

 

[Bassman007]

That sound you all just heard was little bassman running away from the argument at top speed, tail clamped tightly between his hind legs, calling more insults over his shoulder as he disappears for the horizon.

LOL you seem to be a complete schizophrenic fool, who believes that the piles of shit that can barely lift off the Launchpad, then go any which way without guidance are ICBM's.

That is what Rex Tillis called it. Is he a liar, like his boss?

He quoted CNN, my point is not to say that NK can not develop an ICBM, my point is that a rocket is not an ICBM until it packs a nuke, and there is ZERO evidence that NK has a nuke small enough to fit in the cone of a rocket, nor that NK can get a rocket that they launch to land where they want it too.

None of the evidence for these things exist, so NK does not have an ICBM............................

Prove me wrong on any count?

 

[Bassman007]

That means it is not an ICBM...................nor is there any evidence that NK has a nuke that can fit in a missile

Just so you know that Australia is a continent. I'm providing a picture for you that even your little mind can hopefully comprehend.

The rocket that NK launched could not hit Australia or anywhere else, and even if it did, the Nuclear bomb that NK has is as big as a dump truck and would not fit onto that little missile.

Bye the way the last one of these tinkertoys that NK launched blew up on the pad...................

Next

No, the last one they launched just went into space before crashing into the sea that is part of Japan's property.

You can't get anything right...

You never were too bright were you?
North Korea missile test: Latest launch 'blew up almost immediately'

Your link is 3 months old. That one is no longer the "latest missile".

NK is still living in the firkin stone age, 3 months to them is 800 years to the rest of the World.

Then to an 8 year old like you 3 months is a long long long time

 

[Bassman007]

A test rocket that might blow up on the launch pad as North Korean missiles do can never be considered an ICBM as it has no payload, primarily because it has a high rate of blowing up over it's own country. Thus, there is no evidence that North Korea has an ICBM since there is no evidence that they can produce a dependable rocket to carry a nuclear payload. However you are free to believe the news that says clearly that President Hillary Clinton is handling this situation.

Argue all you want, I am never wrong

Fox is not spelled C-N-N. Your thread just died, and you will be laughed at.

Fox News: North Korea successfully test-launched ICBM, US officials confirm

Did the missile fly 5500 or more miles and carry a nuclear payload, because these are the qualifications to be considered an ICBM. Since this never happened I am correct and you are a fake news believer

Next Bozo

You may now resume pulling your own fingers

It doesn't have to carry a nuclear payload in order to be considered an ICBM.

The ICBM is just the delivery vehicle.

They have no such delivery vehicle, just a big rocket that pops up in the air and can not be guided, nor do they have a miniaturized nuke to put on the pop rocket. And if there is a 50 percent chance that the pop rocket crashes over your country, do you put a nuke on it??????????????????

Doubtful

But the news said so, thus it is real like President Hillary is real too

 

[Hutch Starskey]

A test rocket that might blow up on the launch pad as North Korean missiles do can never be considered an ICBM as it has no payload, primarily because it has a high rate of blowing up over it's own country. Thus, there is no evidence that North Korea has an ICBM since there is no evidence that they can produce a dependable rocket to carry a nuclear payload. However you are free to believe the news that says clearly that President Hillary Clinton is handling this situation.

Argue all you want, I am never wrong

Fox is not spelled C-N-N. Your thread just died, and you will be laughed at.

Fox News: North Korea successfully test-launched ICBM, US officials confirm

Did the missile fly 5500 or more miles and carry a nuclear payload, because these are the qualifications to be considered an ICBM. Since this never happened I am correct and you are a fake news believer

Next Bozo

You may now resume pulling your own fingers

It doesn't have to carry a nuclear payload in order to be considered an ICBM.

The ICBM is just the delivery vehicle.

They have no such delivery vehicle, just a big rocket that pops up in the air and can not be guided, nor do they have a miniaturized nuke to put on the pop rocket. And if there is a 50 percent chance that the pop rocket crashes over your country, do you put a nuke on it??????????????????

Doubtful

But the news said so, thus it is real like President Hillary is real too

The news said what I said. It went high enough to reach Alaska. That's all they were testing was the altitude.
Untwist your panties, open a new 30 pack and go rip some phat vapes.

 

[Bassman007]

Fox is not spelled C-N-N. Your thread just died, and you will be laughed at.

Fox News: North Korea successfully test-launched ICBM, US officials confirm

Did the missile fly 5500 or more miles and carry a nuclear payload, because these are the qualifications to be considered an ICBM. Since this never happened I am correct and you are a fake news believer

Next Bozo

You may now resume pulling your own fingers

It doesn't have to carry a nuclear payload in order to be considered an ICBM.

The ICBM is just the delivery vehicle.

They have no such delivery vehicle, just a big rocket that pops up in the air and can not be guided, nor do they have a miniaturized nuke to put on the pop rocket. And if there is a 50 percent chance that the pop rocket crashes over your country, do you put a nuke on it??????????????????

Doubtful

But the news said so, thus it is real like President Hillary is real too

The news said what I said. It went high enough to reach Alaska. That's all they were testing was the altitude.
Untwist your panties, open a new 30 pack and go rip some phat vapes.

You can not get to Alaska or anywhere else without guidance, no matter how high it goes

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Did the missile fly 5500 or more miles and carry a nuclear payload, because these are the qualifications to be considered an ICBM. Since this never happened I am correct and you are a fake news believer

Next Bozo

You may now resume pulling your own fingers

It doesn't have to carry a nuclear payload in order to be considered an ICBM.

The ICBM is just the delivery vehicle.

They have no such delivery vehicle, just a big rocket that pops up in the air and can not be guided, nor do they have a miniaturized nuke to put on the pop rocket. And if there is a 50 percent chance that the pop rocket crashes over your country, do you put a nuke on it??????????????????

Doubtful

But the news said so, thus it is real like President Hillary is real too

The news said what I said. It went high enough to reach Alaska. That's all they were testing was the altitude.
Untwist your panties, open a new 30 pack and go rip some phat vapes.

You can not get to Alaska or anywhere else without guidance, no matter how high it goes

OK, wonderful.

 

[Bassman007]

It doesn't have to carry a nuclear payload in order to be considered an ICBM.

The ICBM is just the delivery vehicle.

They have no such delivery vehicle, just a big rocket that pops up in the air and can not be guided, nor do they have a miniaturized nuke to put on the pop rocket. And if there is a 50 percent chance that the pop rocket crashes over your country, do you put a nuke on it??????????????????

Doubtful

But the news said so, thus it is real like President Hillary is real too

The news said what I said. It went high enough to reach Alaska. That's all they were testing was the altitude.
Untwist your panties, open a new 30 pack and go rip some phat vapes.

You can not get to Alaska or anywhere else without guidance, no matter how high it goes

OK, wonderful.

Ok wonderful, means the news is fake news. When these test happened when Obumma was Pres no one even covered the story

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The ICBM is just the delivery vehicle.

They have no such delivery vehicle, just a big rocket that pops up in the air and can not be guided, nor do they have a miniaturized nuke to put on the pop rocket. And if there is a 50 percent chance that the pop rocket crashes over your country, do you put a nuke on it??????????????????

Doubtful

But the news said so, thus it is real like President Hillary is real too

The news said what I said. It went high enough to reach Alaska. That's all they were testing was the altitude.
Untwist your panties, open a new 30 pack and go rip some phat vapes.

You can not get to Alaska or anywhere else without guidance, no matter how high it goes

OK, wonderful.

Ok wonderful, means the news is fake news. When these test happened when Obumma was Pres no one even covered the story

You're a lunatic, dude.

 

[Bassman007]

They have no such delivery vehicle, just a big rocket that pops up in the air and can not be guided, nor do they have a miniaturized nuke to put on the pop rocket. And if there is a 50 percent chance that the pop rocket crashes over your country, do you put a nuke on it??????????????????

Doubtful

But the news said so, thus it is real like President Hillary is real too

The news said what I said. It went high enough to reach Alaska. That's all they were testing was the altitude.
Untwist your panties, open a new 30 pack and go rip some phat vapes.

You can not get to Alaska or anywhere else without guidance, no matter how high it goes

OK, wonderful.

Ok wonderful, means the news is fake news. When these test happened when Obumma was Pres no one even covered the story

You're a lunatic, dude.

And you are far too low IQ to even have a response. But you believe that every rocket is a missile.............................

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The news said what I said. It went high enough to reach Alaska. That's all they were testing was the altitude.
Untwist your panties, open a new 30 pack and go rip some phat vapes.

You can not get to Alaska or anywhere else without guidance, no matter how high it goes

OK, wonderful.

Ok wonderful, means the news is fake news. When these test happened when Obumma was Pres no one even covered the story

You're a lunatic, dude.

And you are far too low IQ to even have a response. But you believe that every rocket is a missile.............................

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

And...you believe an ICBM must carry a nuclear payload.

 

[Bassman007]

You can not get to Alaska or anywhere else without guidance, no matter how high it goes

OK, wonderful.

Ok wonderful, means the news is fake news. When these test happened when Obumma was Pres no one even covered the story

You're a lunatic, dude.

And you are far too low IQ to even have a response. But you believe that every rocket is a missile.............................

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

And...you believe an ICBM must carry a nuclear payload.

Technically no but all ICBM's do carry nuke payloads, otherwise it is referred to as a rocket. And still a rocket without guidance can't ever carry a nuke, which is why NK has no ICBM's

Next

 

[Camp]

They have no such delivery vehicle, just a big rocket that pops up in the air and can not be guided, nor do they have a miniaturized nuke to put on the pop rocket. And if there is a 50 percent chance that the pop rocket crashes over your country, do you put a nuke on it??????????????????

Doubtful

But the news said so, thus it is real like President Hillary is real too

The news said what I said. It went high enough to reach Alaska. That's all they were testing was the altitude.
Untwist your panties, open a new 30 pack and go rip some phat vapes.

You can not get to Alaska or anywhere else without guidance, no matter how high it goes

OK, wonderful.

Ok wonderful, means the news is fake news. When these test happened when Obumma was Pres no one even covered the story

You're a lunatic, dude.

He does not understand trajectory and has made the long drawn out silly thread on his lack of knowledge about how altitude determines how far a missile will fire, just like it does with artillery or a mortar round. This is common knowledge to an infantryman. Even firing a 40mm from an assault rifle requires a knowledge of trajectory.

 

[Bassman007]

The news said what I said. It went high enough to reach Alaska. That's all they were testing was the altitude.
Untwist your panties, open a new 30 pack and go rip some phat vapes.

You can not get to Alaska or anywhere else without guidance, no matter how high it goes

OK, wonderful.

Ok wonderful, means the news is fake news. When these test happened when Obumma was Pres no one even covered the story

You're a lunatic, dude.

He does not understand trajectory and has made the long drawn out silly thread on his lack of knowledge about how altitude determines how far a missile will fire, just like it does with artillery or a mortar round. This is common knowledge to an infantryman. Even firing a 40mm from an assault rifle requires a knowledge of trajectory.

Dude your assertation that an ICBM functions like a mortar round is moronic like you. Russian ICBM's can and do take and make evasive maneuvers

Russia's SS-27 Makes Bush's
Missile Defense A Fantasy

By Charles Assisi
The Times of India
1-15-6

On November 2, a rather staid little story appeared on a ticker powered by Itar-Tass, a Russian News Agency. The tone was decidedly Russian-matter-of-fact and shorn of all hyperbole. It reported the test launch of a ballistic missile called the Topol RS 12 at 8:10 pm Moscow time. After taking off from the Kapustny Yar test range in the Astrakhan region, it hit the intended target at Balkhash in Kazakhstan at 8:34-24 minutes later.

"The target was precisely hit," said the report, quoting a top-ranking official from the Russian armed forces.

In conclusion, Itar-Tass added some jargon that sounded like regulation copy to most people tracking defence:

"The advanced Topol missile has three cruise engines and can develop hypersonic speed. The high thrust-to-weight ratio allows the warhead to manoeuvre on the trajectory and pass through a dense air defence system."

At that time, not many defence analysts thought much of the report. After all, Kapustny Yar, located on the banks of the Volga river, 75 miles east of Volgograd (formerly Stalingrad), had gone to the dogs and was infrequently used. Whenever the base was lucky to see some action, all it witnessed was small payloads.

But what the mainstream media missed was analysed in great detail on internet discussion boards. For starters, something about the time mentioned in the report sounded astounding.

For anything to travel from Kapustny to Balkash in 24 minutes, it had to fly at a speed of three miles a second. That's 180 miles a minute or 10,800 miles an hour.

If the reports were indeed true, the Topol RS 12 or the Topol SS 27, as it is known in military circles around the world, had to be the fastest thing man has ever seen. And if you will for a moment excuse the breathlessness, it also represented the pinnacle of modern missile technology. Until this test, the fastest thing known to man was the X43 A. A hypersonic, unmanned plane built by NASA. It flew at 10 times the speed of sound-almost 7,200 miles per hour.
_____

But the Topol isn't attracting attention for its speed alone. It has got more to do with the sheer viciousness it demonstrates. A conventional intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), once deployed, takes off on the back of a booster. After attaining a certain altitude, it follows a set flight path or trajectory. When it reaches the intended target, it lets loose a set of warheads that home in on the target with devastating accuracy. Given these dynamics, military establishments build defence systems that can intercept an ICBM before it strikes. Often, the defence works.

With the Topol, these dynamics simply don't come into play. To start with, the damn thing can be manoeuvred mid-flight. This makes it practically impossible for any radar system in the world to figure out what trajectory it will follow.

The other thing is the kind of evasion technology built into the missile. That makes it invulnerable to any kind of radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.

Then there is the question of ground-based nuclear warheads traditionally deployed to stop ICBMs in their path. Until now, any ICBM can be taken down by detonating a nuclear warhead from as far as 10 kilometres. The Topol doesn't blink an eyelid until the time a nuclear warhead gets as close as 500 meters. But given the Topol's remarkable speed and manoeuvrability, getting a warhead that close is practically impossible.

That leaves defence establishments with only two options. Target the missile at its most vulnerable points - either when it is on the ground or when it is just being deployed (also known as the boost phase).

Apparently, the Russians have gotten around that problem, too. Unlike virtually every ICBM that exists on some military base or the other, the Topol doesn't have to be on a static base. All it needs is the back of a truck. And trucks can be driven anywhere, anytime. That makes it practically impossible for any country to monitor how many of these missiles have been deployed and where.

Writes Scott Ritter, a former intelligence officer and weapons inspector in the Soviet Union and Iraq in the Christian Science Monitor:

"The Bush administration's dream of a viable NMD has been rendered fantasy by the Russian test of the SS-27 Topol-M.. To counter the SS-27 threat, the US will need to start from scratch."

But when you're done marvelling at the technology, sit back for a moment and consider this. You thought the cold war was over. You thought wrong. Cold War II has just begun. And the world just became a more dangerous place.
____

To recap the SS-27 'highlights'...

The Topol SS 27 can be manoeuvred mid-flight. this makes it impossible for radar systems to figure out its flight path.

It is invulnerable to radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.

It can be mounted on the back of a truck, which makes it difficult to monitor how many of these missiles have been deployed and where

 

[Camp]

You can not get to Alaska or anywhere else without guidance, no matter how high it goes

OK, wonderful.

Ok wonderful, means the news is fake news. When these test happened when Obumma was Pres no one even covered the story

You're a lunatic, dude.

He does not understand trajectory and has made the long drawn out silly thread on his lack of knowledge about how altitude determines how far a missile will fire, just like it does with artillery or a mortar round. This is common knowledge to an infantryman. Even firing a 40mm from an assault rifle requires a knowledge of trajectory.

Dude your assertation that an ICBM functions like a mortar round is moronic like you. Russian ICBM's can and do take and make evasive maneuvers

Russia's SS-27 Makes Bush's
Missile Defense A Fantasy

By Charles Assisi
The Times of India
1-15-6

On November 2, a rather staid little story appeared on a ticker powered by Itar-Tass, a Russian News Agency. The tone was decidedly Russian-matter-of-fact and shorn of all hyperbole. It reported the test launch of a ballistic missile called the Topol RS 12 at 8:10 pm Moscow time. After taking off from the Kapustny Yar test range in the Astrakhan region, it hit the intended target at Balkhash in Kazakhstan at 8:34-24 minutes later.

"The target was precisely hit," said the report, quoting a top-ranking official from the Russian armed forces.

In conclusion, Itar-Tass added some jargon that sounded like regulation copy to most people tracking defence:

"The advanced Topol missile has three cruise engines and can develop hypersonic speed. The high thrust-to-weight ratio allows the warhead to manoeuvre on the trajectory and pass through a dense air defence system."

At that time, not many defence analysts thought much of the report. After all, Kapustny Yar, located on the banks of the Volga river, 75 miles east of Volgograd (formerly Stalingrad), had gone to the dogs and was infrequently used. Whenever the base was lucky to see some action, all it witnessed was small payloads.

But what the mainstream media missed was analysed in great detail on internet discussion boards. For starters, something about the time mentioned in the report sounded astounding.

For anything to travel from Kapustny to Balkash in 24 minutes, it had to fly at a speed of three miles a second. That's 180 miles a minute or 10,800 miles an hour.

If the reports were indeed true, the Topol RS 12 or the Topol SS 27, as it is known in military circles around the world, had to be the fastest thing man has ever seen. And if you will for a moment excuse the breathlessness, it also represented the pinnacle of modern missile technology. Until this test, the fastest thing known to man was the X43 A. A hypersonic, unmanned plane built by NASA. It flew at 10 times the speed of sound-almost 7,200 miles per hour.
_____

But the Topol isn't attracting attention for its speed alone. It has got more to do with the sheer viciousness it demonstrates. A conventional intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), once deployed, takes off on the back of a booster. After attaining a certain altitude, it follows a set flight path or trajectory. When it reaches the intended target, it lets loose a set of warheads that home in on the target with devastating accuracy. Given these dynamics, military establishments build defence systems that can intercept an ICBM before it strikes. Often, the defence works.

With the Topol, these dynamics simply don't come into play. To start with, the damn thing can be manoeuvred mid-flight. This makes it practically impossible for any radar system in the world to figure out what trajectory it will follow.

The other thing is the kind of evasion technology built into the missile. That makes it invulnerable to any kind of radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.

Then there is the question of ground-based nuclear warheads traditionally deployed to stop ICBMs in their path. Until now, any ICBM can be taken down by detonating a nuclear warhead from as far as 10 kilometres. The Topol doesn't blink an eyelid until the time a nuclear warhead gets as close as 500 meters. But given the Topol's remarkable speed and manoeuvrability, getting a warhead that close is practically impossible.

That leaves defence establishments with only two options. Target the missile at its most vulnerable points - either when it is on the ground or when it is just being deployed (also known as the boost phase).

Apparently, the Russians have gotten around that problem, too. Unlike virtually every ICBM that exists on some military base or the other, the Topol doesn't have to be on a static base. All it needs is the back of a truck. And trucks can be driven anywhere, anytime. That makes it practically impossible for any country to monitor how many of these missiles have been deployed and where.

Writes Scott Ritter, a former intelligence officer and weapons inspector in the Soviet Union and Iraq in the Christian Science Monitor:

"The Bush administration's dream of a viable NMD has been rendered fantasy by the Russian test of the SS-27 Topol-M.. To counter the SS-27 threat, the US will need to start from scratch."

But when you're done marvelling at the technology, sit back for a moment and consider this. You thought the cold war was over. You thought wrong. Cold War II has just begun. And the world just became a more dangerous place.
____

To recap the SS-27 'highlights'...

The Topol SS 27 can be manoeuvred mid-flight. this makes it impossible for radar systems to figure out its flight path.

It is invulnerable to radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.

It can be mounted on the back of a truck, which makes it difficult to monitor how many of these missiles have been deployed and where

I was discussing the common knowledge of basic trajectory you dunce.

 

[Bassman007]

OK, wonderful.

Ok wonderful, means the news is fake news. When these test happened when Obumma was Pres no one even covered the story

You're a lunatic, dude.

He does not understand trajectory and has made the long drawn out silly thread on his lack of knowledge about how altitude determines how far a missile will fire, just like it does with artillery or a mortar round. This is common knowledge to an infantryman. Even firing a 40mm from an assault rifle requires a knowledge of trajectory.

Dude your assertation that an ICBM functions like a mortar round is moronic like you. Russian ICBM's can and do take and make evasive maneuvers

Russia's SS-27 Makes Bush's
Missile Defense A Fantasy

By Charles Assisi
The Times of India
1-15-6

On November 2, a rather staid little story appeared on a ticker powered by Itar-Tass, a Russian News Agency. The tone was decidedly Russian-matter-of-fact and shorn of all hyperbole. It reported the test launch of a ballistic missile called the Topol RS 12 at 8:10 pm Moscow time. After taking off from the Kapustny Yar test range in the Astrakhan region, it hit the intended target at Balkhash in Kazakhstan at 8:34-24 minutes later.

"The target was precisely hit," said the report, quoting a top-ranking official from the Russian armed forces.

In conclusion, Itar-Tass added some jargon that sounded like regulation copy to most people tracking defence:

"The advanced Topol missile has three cruise engines and can develop hypersonic speed. The high thrust-to-weight ratio allows the warhead to manoeuvre on the trajectory and pass through a dense air defence system."

At that time, not many defence analysts thought much of the report. After all, Kapustny Yar, located on the banks of the Volga river, 75 miles east of Volgograd (formerly Stalingrad), had gone to the dogs and was infrequently used. Whenever the base was lucky to see some action, all it witnessed was small payloads.

But what the mainstream media missed was analysed in great detail on internet discussion boards. For starters, something about the time mentioned in the report sounded astounding.

For anything to travel from Kapustny to Balkash in 24 minutes, it had to fly at a speed of three miles a second. That's 180 miles a minute or 10,800 miles an hour.

If the reports were indeed true, the Topol RS 12 or the Topol SS 27, as it is known in military circles around the world, had to be the fastest thing man has ever seen. And if you will for a moment excuse the breathlessness, it also represented the pinnacle of modern missile technology. Until this test, the fastest thing known to man was the X43 A. A hypersonic, unmanned plane built by NASA. It flew at 10 times the speed of sound-almost 7,200 miles per hour.
_____

But the Topol isn't attracting attention for its speed alone. It has got more to do with the sheer viciousness it demonstrates. A conventional intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), once deployed, takes off on the back of a booster. After attaining a certain altitude, it follows a set flight path or trajectory. When it reaches the intended target, it lets loose a set of warheads that home in on the target with devastating accuracy. Given these dynamics, military establishments build defence systems that can intercept an ICBM before it strikes. Often, the defence works.

With the Topol, these dynamics simply don't come into play. To start with, the damn thing can be manoeuvred mid-flight. This makes it practically impossible for any radar system in the world to figure out what trajectory it will follow.

The other thing is the kind of evasion technology built into the missile. That makes it invulnerable to any kind of radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.

Then there is the question of ground-based nuclear warheads traditionally deployed to stop ICBMs in their path. Until now, any ICBM can be taken down by detonating a nuclear warhead from as far as 10 kilometres. The Topol doesn't blink an eyelid until the time a nuclear warhead gets as close as 500 meters. But given the Topol's remarkable speed and manoeuvrability, getting a warhead that close is practically impossible.

That leaves defence establishments with only two options. Target the missile at its most vulnerable points - either when it is on the ground or when it is just being deployed (also known as the boost phase).

Apparently, the Russians have gotten around that problem, too. Unlike virtually every ICBM that exists on some military base or the other, the Topol doesn't have to be on a static base. All it needs is the back of a truck. And trucks can be driven anywhere, anytime. That makes it practically impossible for any country to monitor how many of these missiles have been deployed and where.

Writes Scott Ritter, a former intelligence officer and weapons inspector in the Soviet Union and Iraq in the Christian Science Monitor:

"The Bush administration's dream of a viable NMD has been rendered fantasy by the Russian test of the SS-27 Topol-M.. To counter the SS-27 threat, the US will need to start from scratch."

But when you're done marvelling at the technology, sit back for a moment and consider this. You thought the cold war was over. You thought wrong. Cold War II has just begun. And the world just became a more dangerous place.
____

To recap the SS-27 'highlights'...

The Topol SS 27 can be manoeuvred mid-flight. this makes it impossible for radar systems to figure out its flight path.

It is invulnerable to radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.

It can be mounted on the back of a truck, which makes it difficult to monitor how many of these missiles have been deployed and where

I was discussing the common knowledge of basic trajectory you dunce.

Wrong you were discussing what ICBM's were 20 or more years ago. In todays world of defensive missiles that won't cut it anymore

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You can not get to Alaska or anywhere else without guidance, no matter how high it goes

OK, wonderful.

Ok wonderful, means the news is fake news. When these test happened when Obumma was Pres no one even covered the story

You're a lunatic, dude.

He does not understand trajectory and has made the long drawn out silly thread on his lack of knowledge about how altitude determines how far a missile will fire, just like it does with artillery or a mortar round. This is common knowledge to an infantryman. Even firing a 40mm from an assault rifle requires a knowledge of trajectory.

Dude your assertation that an ICBM functions like a mortar round is moronic like you. Russian ICBM's can and do take and make evasive maneuvers

Russia's SS-27 Makes Bush's
Missile Defense A Fantasy

By Charles Assisi
The Times of India
1-15-6

On November 2, a rather staid little story appeared on a ticker powered by Itar-Tass, a Russian News Agency. The tone was decidedly Russian-matter-of-fact and shorn of all hyperbole. It reported the test launch of a ballistic missile called the Topol RS 12 at 8:10 pm Moscow time. After taking off from the Kapustny Yar test range in the Astrakhan region, it hit the intended target at Balkhash in Kazakhstan at 8:34-24 minutes later.

"The target was precisely hit," said the report, quoting a top-ranking official from the Russian armed forces.

In conclusion, Itar-Tass added some jargon that sounded like regulation copy to most people tracking defence:

"The advanced Topol missile has three cruise engines and can develop hypersonic speed. The high thrust-to-weight ratio allows the warhead to manoeuvre on the trajectory and pass through a dense air defence system."

At that time, not many defence analysts thought much of the report. After all, Kapustny Yar, located on the banks of the Volga river, 75 miles east of Volgograd (formerly Stalingrad), had gone to the dogs and was infrequently used. Whenever the base was lucky to see some action, all it witnessed was small payloads.

But what the mainstream media missed was analysed in great detail on internet discussion boards. For starters, something about the time mentioned in the report sounded astounding.

For anything to travel from Kapustny to Balkash in 24 minutes, it had to fly at a speed of three miles a second. That's 180 miles a minute or 10,800 miles an hour.

If the reports were indeed true, the Topol RS 12 or the Topol SS 27, as it is known in military circles around the world, had to be the fastest thing man has ever seen. And if you will for a moment excuse the breathlessness, it also represented the pinnacle of modern missile technology. Until this test, the fastest thing known to man was the X43 A. A hypersonic, unmanned plane built by NASA. It flew at 10 times the speed of sound-almost 7,200 miles per hour.
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But the Topol isn't attracting attention for its speed alone. It has got more to do with the sheer viciousness it demonstrates. A conventional intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), once deployed, takes off on the back of a booster. After attaining a certain altitude, it follows a set flight path or trajectory. When it reaches the intended target, it lets loose a set of warheads that home in on the target with devastating accuracy. Given these dynamics, military establishments build defence systems that can intercept an ICBM before it strikes. Often, the defence works.

With the Topol, these dynamics simply don't come into play. To start with, the damn thing can be manoeuvred mid-flight. This makes it practically impossible for any radar system in the world to figure out what trajectory it will follow.

The other thing is the kind of evasion technology built into the missile. That makes it invulnerable to any kind of radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.

Then there is the question of ground-based nuclear warheads traditionally deployed to stop ICBMs in their path. Until now, any ICBM can be taken down by detonating a nuclear warhead from as far as 10 kilometres. The Topol doesn't blink an eyelid until the time a nuclear warhead gets as close as 500 meters. But given the Topol's remarkable speed and manoeuvrability, getting a warhead that close is practically impossible.

That leaves defence establishments with only two options. Target the missile at its most vulnerable points - either when it is on the ground or when it is just being deployed (also known as the boost phase).

Apparently, the Russians have gotten around that problem, too. Unlike virtually every ICBM that exists on some military base or the other, the Topol doesn't have to be on a static base. All it needs is the back of a truck. And trucks can be driven anywhere, anytime. That makes it practically impossible for any country to monitor how many of these missiles have been deployed and where.

Writes Scott Ritter, a former intelligence officer and weapons inspector in the Soviet Union and Iraq in the Christian Science Monitor:

"The Bush administration's dream of a viable NMD has been rendered fantasy by the Russian test of the SS-27 Topol-M.. To counter the SS-27 threat, the US will need to start from scratch."

But when you're done marvelling at the technology, sit back for a moment and consider this. You thought the cold war was over. You thought wrong. Cold War II has just begun. And the world just became a more dangerous place.
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To recap the SS-27 'highlights'...

The Topol SS 27 can be manoeuvred mid-flight. this makes it impossible for radar systems to figure out its flight path.

It is invulnerable to radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.

It can be mounted on the back of a truck, which makes it difficult to monitor how many of these missiles have been deployed and where

Back of a truck?

A huge 16 wheeled truck!

This entire article looks like a science fiction writer was working on their story-telling skills.

BTW, the writer seems in awe of its speed. Our Minuteman III ICBM is faster!