Breaking News: Restaurants Closing All Over Seattle As $15 Minimum Wage Mandate Starts April 1st.

[Preacher]

The workers keep it running Without the workers they treat so badly the place would collapse.

You are an idiot.

If there were no customers, there would be no revenue, without revenue the workers wouldn't be paid a dime, and without revenue the "place" would collapse. The well being of the "place" relies on the customer, because the workers depend on their patronage for a paycheck.

See how that works?

Where in that rant does it require having rich pieces of shit to treat the workers bad to keep the store running? Do the rich fucks sell the stuff? Make it? Transport it? Nope.

 

[Preacher]

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not

Oh the asininity!

How else does a business maintain or grow its worth? Am I really to believe that the sole net worth of one man can fuel the machinations of one of the biggest store chains in the world? You really are a dumbass, you know that?

2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

Raise the wages of your workers, raise the price of your goods. This is exactly why these restaurants are running for the hills!

What good is it to you sell cheap goods/services/food, but pay your workers what they demand instead of what they earn?

The workers keep it running Without the workers they treat so badly the place would collapse.

Minimum Wage Mythbusters - U.S. Department of Labor

If it's really true that raising minimum wage has no harmful side effects, why screw around with ten dollars an hour? Why not fifty or one hundred?

....crickets. ...

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

 

[dblack]

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not

Oh the asininity!

How else does a business maintain or grow its worth? Am I really to believe that the sole net worth of one man can fuel the machinations of one of the biggest store chains in the world? You really are a dumbass, you know that?

2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

Raise the wages of your workers, raise the price of your goods. This is exactly why these restaurants are running for the hills!

What good is it to you sell cheap goods/services/food, but pay your workers what they demand instead of what they earn?

The workers keep it running Without the workers they treat so badly the place would collapse.

Minimum Wage Mythbusters - U.S. Department of Labor

If it's really true that raising minimum wage has no harmful side effects, why screw around with ten dollars an hour? Why not fifty or one hundred?

....crickets. ...

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

In other words, you have no answer to my question. Also, I'm not a Republican

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Do landscapers/lawn service get 15.00 hr?

Actually the standard rate for landscape service in the Seattle area is 25 dollars an hour.

That's what I pay for landscape services.

You do realize that's what the company charges not what the employee gets paid right?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not

Oh the asininity!

How else does a business maintain or grow its worth? Am I really to believe that the sole net worth of one man can fuel the machinations of one of the biggest store chains in the world? You really are a dumbass, you know that?

2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

Raise the wages of your workers, raise the price of your goods. This is exactly why these restaurants are running for the hills!

What good is it to you sell cheap goods/services/food, but pay your workers what they demand instead of what they earn?

The workers keep it running Without the workers they treat so badly the place would collapse.

Minimum Wage Mythbusters - U.S. Department of Labor

If it's really true that raising minimum wage has no harmful side effects, why screw around with ten dollars an hour? Why not fifty or one hundred?

....crickets. ...

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

 

[TemplarKormac]

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc.

And what if your demand for higher wages causes your employer to lay you off or even go out of business? Would seem to me you wouldn't be able to pay for anything at that point. It would also stand to reason that you should be grateful for the paycheck you are getting at the moment.

 

[Preacher]

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not

Oh the asininity!

How else does a business maintain or grow its worth? Am I really to believe that the sole net worth of one man can fuel the machinations of one of the biggest store chains in the world? You really are a dumbass, you know that?

2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

Raise the wages of your workers, raise the price of your goods. This is exactly why these restaurants are running for the hills!

What good is it to you sell cheap goods/services/food, but pay your workers what they demand instead of what they earn?

The workers keep it running Without the workers they treat so badly the place would collapse.

Minimum Wage Mythbusters - U.S. Department of Labor

If it's really true that raising minimum wage has no harmful side effects, why screw around with ten dollars an hour? Why not fifty or one hundred?

....crickets. ...

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

Leave it to a White Supremacist/Democrat (lol) to be completely ignorant of the processes that run this economy.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Oh the asininity!

How else does a business maintain or grow its worth? Am I really to believe that the sole net worth of one man can fuel the machinations of one of the biggest store chains in the world? You really are a dumbass, you know that?


Raise the wages of your workers, raise the price of your goods. This is exactly why these restaurants are running for the hills!

What good is it to you sell cheap goods/services/food, but pay your workers what they demand instead of what they earn?

The workers keep it running Without the workers they treat so badly the place would collapse.

Minimum Wage Mythbusters - U.S. Department of Labor

If it's really true that raising minimum wage has no harmful side effects, why screw around with ten dollars an hour? Why not fifty or one hundred?

....crickets. ...

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

25 states disagree.

Right-to-work law - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[healthmyths]

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not

Oh the asininity!

How else does a business maintain or grow its worth? Am I really to believe that the sole net worth of one man can fuel the machinations of one of the biggest store chains in the world? You really are a dumbass, you know that?

2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

Raise the wages of your workers, raise the price of your goods. This is exactly why these restaurants are running for the hills!

What good is it to you sell cheap goods/services/food, but pay your workers what they demand instead of what they earn?

The workers keep it running Without the workers they treat so badly the place would collapse.

Minimum Wage Mythbusters - U.S. Department of Labor

If it's really true that raising minimum wage has no harmful side effects, why screw around with ten dollars an hour? Why not fifty or one hundred?

....crickets. ...

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

How are you a small restaurant owner that has historically these fixed costs BEFORE the minimum wage increase make a profit on $500,000 gross sales?
A) 36% of $500,000 goes for labor or $180,000
B) 30% of $500,000 goes for food or $150,000
C) 30% of $500,000 goes for rent,utilities,taxes,licenses,permits,etc.. or $150,000
Those 3 add up to $480,000
Leaving the owner $ 20,000 profit.

Now assume the wages go to $15.00 an hour from the current $7.25 or double.
A) 36% at $7.25 now goes to say 50% or now $250,000 for labor costs
B) 30% for food, 30% for rent,etc. a total of $300,000
C) Total costs of labor,food,other $550,000
D) Gross revenue $500,000...
WHAT no profit... rather a loss the owner has to make up or hmmmm... go out of business!

Source for above percentages..
More Seattle restaurants close doors as 15 minimum wage approaches AgainstCronyCapitalism.org

That is the simple financial reason 400 restaurants are quitting in Seattle.
They will LOSE money!
Simple arithmetic which obvious most LIPs fail at comprehending!

 

[Preacher]

The workers keep it running Without the workers they treat so badly the place would collapse.

Minimum Wage Mythbusters - U.S. Department of Labor

If it's really true that raising minimum wage has no harmful side effects, why screw around with ten dollars an hour? Why not fifty or one hundred?

....crickets. ...

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

25 states disagree.

Right-to-work law - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

More like a handful of politicians disagree.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Where in that rant does it require having rich pieces of shit to treat the workers bad to keep the store running? Do the rich fucks sell the stuff? Make it? Transport it? Nope.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. Without a revenue stream, there are no employees to "treat badly." There would be nothing to sell and nothing to transport. All operations would cease, and those poor desperate employees would be out on the streets.

You do realize that right?

No. Of course not.

 

[Iceweasel]

The funny thing is that when libs start a business they pay shit wages.

 

[TemplarKormac]

If it's really true that raising minimum wage has no harmful side effects, why screw around with ten dollars an hour? Why not fifty or one hundred?

....crickets. ...

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

25 states disagree.

Right-to-work law - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

More like a handful of politicians disagree.

More like everyone disagrees:

Americans Approve of Unions but Support Right to Work

And yes, I know what the link says. Just pay attention to the part which says "71% support right to work laws."

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Oh the asininity!

How else does a business maintain or grow its worth? Am I really to believe that the sole net worth of one man can fuel the machinations of one of the biggest store chains in the world? You really are a dumbass, you know that?


Raise the wages of your workers, raise the price of your goods. This is exactly why these restaurants are running for the hills!

What good is it to you sell cheap goods/services/food, but pay your workers what they demand instead of what they earn?

The workers keep it running Without the workers they treat so badly the place would collapse.

Minimum Wage Mythbusters - U.S. Department of Labor

If it's really true that raising minimum wage has no harmful side effects, why screw around with ten dollars an hour? Why not fifty or one hundred?

....crickets. ...

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

Yes! Then they can send a portion of their government mandated "living wage" they so desperately need to survive to the unions! On top of that the unions will automatically make the company more money because...well it should, only that's never happened before. But the unions will get them minimum wage people what they really deserve! Um, minimum wage.

You're a fucking genius!

 

[HenryBHough]

All this discussion ignores these simple mathematical facts as taught in liberal-dominated school systems.

1. 0 hours worth of wages at a high rate are greater than 40 hours worth of wages at a moderate rate.

2. a 30% increase in wage rates nets a worker more each week after being laid off than does a 0% increase in a full work week.

Once you master that it all becomes clear.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Where in that rant does it require having rich pieces of shit to treat the workers bad to keep the store running? Do the rich fucks sell the stuff? Make it? Transport it? Nope.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. Without a revenue stream, there are no employees to "treat badly." There would be nothing to sell and nothing to transport. All operations would cease, and those poor disparate employees would be out on the streets.

You do realize that right?

No. Of course not.

If you're not going to start the next Apple then don't bother I guess. Never mind the fact not aa single minimum wage person would ever qualify for a job at Apple anyway but these idiots seem to think they should be paid like an Apple designer for taking a hamburger to your table,

 

[healthmyths]

If it's really true that raising minimum wage has no harmful side effects, why screw around with ten dollars an hour? Why not fifty or one hundred?

....crickets. ...

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

25 states disagree.

Right-to-work law - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

More like a handful of politicians disagree.

You really are stupid aren't you?
Do you think you as a small restaurant owner that grosses $500,000 a year that
A) pays out 36% or $180,000 in wages/labor costs
B) pays out 30% or $150,000 in food
C) Pays out 30% or $150,000 for rent,utilities,permits, taxes,etc...
Or a total cost of $480,000 leaving what for profit for the owner? $20,000.

BUT what happens if labor costs jump to 50% of the revenue or $250,000 BUT the revenue stays at $500,000?
Food costs stay the same... $150,000 so does other costs rent,etc. $150,000
Add Labor - $250,000
Add food - 150,000
Add Other - 150,000
Total $550,000
BUT WAIT... the gross revenue stayed the same $500,000.
Far from a profit of $20,000 the owner has to make up out of OWN pocket, $50,000 in losses!
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see...hmmm no profit, but losses all because my labor costs go up... what choice do I have?

BUT wait YOU aren't even a rocket scientist... so poor you just keep mouthing that labor garbage while contracts for auto workers include
$65/hour for lawn maintenance workers categorized as auto workers and we wonder why jobs went to Asia!

 

[TemplarKormac]

but these idiots seem to think they should be paid like an Apple designer for taking a hamburger to your table

If the Hamburger was a foot tall, perhaps. With bacon.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

All this discussion ignores these simple mathematical facts as taught in liberal-dominated school systems.

1. 0 hours worth of wages at a high rate are greater than 40 hours worth of wages at a moderate rate.

2. a 30% increase in wage rates nets a worker more each week after being laid off than does a 0% increase in a full work week.

Once you master that it all becomes clear.

The unemployment calculations. Good point. So higher minimum wages will increase UE benefits and therefore demand more taxes from those left working.