Breaking News: Restaurants Closing All Over Seattle As $15 Minimum Wage Mandate Starts April 1st.

[Iceweasel]

"Hate is not a Christian value"-Redfish
Actually the Bible states that hate is equivalent to murder. John 1 3:15.
Reading most of the threads/posts/signatures on USMB, indicates we have very, very few true Christians on board here. but we do have a ton of fake Christians.

But as we all know, disagreeing with a liberal IS hate.

 

[Redfish]

A Left wing white supremacist. LMAO!

OMG that never gets old!

Racial Socialist as I have said a dozen times.You act like its some surprise.

Right. Like I'm going to tell one bedsheet from another. Same shit, different blender speed.

Not even close. Klan is a christian group and hates socialism...

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

"Hate is not a Christian value"-Redfish
Actually the Bible states that hate is equivalent to murder. John 1 3:15.
Reading most of the threads/posts/signatures on USMB, indicates we have very, very few true Christians on board here. but we do have a ton of fake Christians.

True, its also evident that there a lot of partisan talking point repeaters on both sides. But it is possible to hate the sin but love the sinner. True Christians practice that rule.

 

[Preacher]

They don't get to decide that. They have proven themselves unworthy of doing so by paying such low wages.

a business does not get to decide what it can spend on labor????????? WTF is wrong with you? Have you ever actually had a job?

Yes. Several. Take Wal Mart for example. When 6 Waltons are worth more than the lower 40% of americans they can afford a lot better than 9 or 10$ an hour.They want to be greedy pieces of shit then governme is forced to step in.

the Waltons are rich because they successfully created a chain of stores that millions of people shop at. They make a very small % profit but its on a very large volume of sales.

If they are forced to raise their employee pay (which is above minimum wage in every store) they will either have to reduce the number of employees or raise prices, either of which hurts poor people the most.

less than 3% of working americans make minimum wage and the vast majority of those are teens making pocket money in part time jobs.

minimum wage is not a problem in this country, but it makes a good sympathy rant for liberals.

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

A Left wing white supremacist. LMAO!

OMG that never gets old!

Racial Socialist as I have said a dozen times.You act like its some surprise.

Right. Like I'm going to tell one bedsheet from another. Same shit, different blender speed.

Not even close. Klan is a christian group and hates socialism...

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

r

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

That's already the case.

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...

Minimum wage talk is a joke. To small of a demographic to impact the economy

-Geaux

Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

You work for a fair wage. PERIOD. Fair wage is NOT something you can't pay bills,childcare,food,gas with. End of story.

They don't get to decide that. They have proven themselves unworthy of doing so by paying such low wages.

a business does not get to decide what it can spend on labor????????? WTF is wrong with you? Have you ever actually had a job?

Yes. Several. Take Wal Mart for example. When 6 Waltons are worth more than the lower 40% of americans they can afford a lot better than 9 or 10$ an hour.They want to be greedy pieces of shit then governme is forced to step in.

the Waltons are rich because they successfully created a chain of stores that millions of people shop at. They make a very small % profit but its on a very large volume of sales.

If they are forced to raise their employee pay (which is above minimum wage in every store) they will either have to reduce the number of employees or raise prices, either of which hurts poor people the most.

less than 3% of working americans make minimum wage and the vast majority of those are teens making pocket money in part time jobs.

minimum wage is not a problem in this country, but it makes a good sympathy rant for liberals.

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

A Left wing white supremacist. LMAO!

OMG that never gets old!

Racial Socialist as I have said a dozen times.You act like its some surprise.

Right. Like I'm going to tell one bedsheet from another. Same shit, different blender speed.

Not even close. Klan is a christian group and hates socialism...

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

yes they are

r

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

That's already the case.

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...

Minimum wage talk is a joke. To small of a demographic to impact the economy

-Geaux

Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

 

[kiwiman127]

r

We aren't being greedy we just want enough to live off of and pay bills and buy food etc. Leave it to a republican to use an idiotic example.

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

That's already the case.

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...

Minimum wage talk is a joke. To small of a demographic to impact the economy

-Geaux

Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

"Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?


Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?-Redfish

"Earlier you brought up Christianity. "Hate is not a Christian value"-Redfish

So it appears Christian values are part of your life. That being the care, I have a
link for you about what the Bible says about wages and "fair".

What Does the Bible Say About Wages

Would you like to re-think your position on wages?

 

[Sonny Clark]

Oh, I see. so instead of paying an employee $20.00 an hour to do a task ( job ), a business will pay double that just out of the goodness of its heart? Or, a business will pay a janitor $40.00 an hour just to feel good about itself? What's a lie? Where did I lie? A business is not going to pay an employee any more than they have to pay. What business do you know of that pays employees way more than the going rate? Name a business that pays way outside the going rate for any particular job? I have owned two businesses, and yet, you say that I know nothing about running a business? That shows just how little you know.

Also, your childish and silly name calling and personal attack is school yard stuff, and has no place on forums where adults are attempting to have civil conversations. Your age? If you think that immature "cyber mouth" comment makes you appear to be intelligent and "all-knowing", think again. FYI - Business is NOT out of my grasp. If there's anything that you'd like to know or learn about "business", just ask. I'll be glad to help you in any way that I can. I do not mind sharing knowledge or my many years of experience.

Again, what lie did I tell, or what lie are you referring to? Care to tell me the lie that you think I told? And, please grow up and at least appear to be adult in these conversations. Childish remarks and comments add absolutely nothing to these conversations.

You speak like a toddler and demand respect. You lie, then twist other people's words around to make your idiotic ill informed posts. Sometimes businesses do pay out of the goodness of their hearts. Sometimes what they feel they should. Sometimes to keep the help there, especially if the job is unpleasant. It depends on the business and a bunch of variables. Not all of us fit into your small toggle switch world view.

If YOU owned two businesses and payed them only what you had to that explains which category you fit into. Don't project your shortcomings onto others. We are not all like you. And if you are going to make idiotic, dishonest statements about what people say and get rile up when they call you on it it, it's YOU that needs to grow up.

Very silly and childish. Again, what lie did I tell? Where did I lie? What was idiotic? Please point out the lie(s) and the idiotic statement(s). Can you? You're the one that needs to grow up and act civil and adult on this forum. What shortcomings? Care to explain? Or, are you talking hoping that you'll sound good and impressive? Who are you trying to impress? Or, is all of that childish talk for your benefit only? Your age?

 

[Redfish]

r

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

That's already the case.

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...

Minimum wage talk is a joke. To small of a demographic to impact the economy

-Geaux

Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

"Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?


Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?-Redfish

"Earlier you brought up Christianity. "Hate is not a Christian value"-Redfish

So it appears Christian values are part of your life. That being the care, I have a
link for you about what the Bible says about wages and "fair".

What Does the Bible Say About Wages

Would you like to re-think your position on wages?

The Bible is correct. You should pay a man what his labor is worth, you should not cheat him, you should not make him work for nothing.

Not one of those verses says that the government shall set the minimum that anyone must be paid.

 

[Skull Pilot]

It's a horrendously unequal distribution of the profits of Capitalism here in America.

PLUS you keep forgetting something that ignorant people like you that create this dissension and hatred of people that are successful.
A) $ 28.5 billion paid to these 165,200 people generated $6.2 billion in Federal taxes
B) Paid the state of New York at 6.65% on taxable income between $77,151 and $205,850,000 or $2.13 billion in state taxes

These evil wall street filthy executives PAID the State and Federal taxes of $8.3 billion.
These 1,007,000 workers at minimum wage paid NO taxes and at the same time received in Earned Income tax credit of $503 if they had no children.
or from $5.06 billion to $33.8 billion in EIC paid BACK to these workers If they had one qualifying child : $3,359
Federal government paid BACK to these 1,007,000 minimum wage from $5.06 billion to $33.8 billion plus the workers paid no taxes!

The REST of the story!!
Wall Street bonuses doubled income earned by all US minimum wage workers RT USA

I take it you are OK with raising minimum wage so a full time worker does not have to be subsidized by "we the People"

A brief aside I am not ignoroant if one uses the metric of having a graduate degree...second I do not hate successful people since I myself am secure economically... I loathe injustice and avarice without limits..
Senate Report: Tax Move Helped Hedge Funds Save Billions

A Hedge Fund Tax Dodge Uses Bermuda Reinsurers ...

BoA helped hedge fund clients dodge taxes, says report - Al ...

Sept. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Treasury Department said it’s considering ways to end a “loophole” that allows hedge-fund managers to avoid taxes by routing their investments through an insurance company in low-tax countries like Bermuda.

You and I have one thing in common... both do not like avarice... but MY better position is avarice controlled by the individual...not the state!
See I KNOW that the Golden Rule works and would work even better if it were taught constantly with as much expense and advertising as "global warming",
"gay rights"..etc. Think about it. If you and I and the rest of the world would do unto others as you and I would have others do unto us... there would be fewer needs for rules and regulations which are totally smothering any growth in this country.
So as far as avarice controls... it would be better without state interferences.

Consequently there would be NO minimum wage.
First the facts:
As Gruber said because of the "Stupidity of the American Voter" most uninformed voters that voted for Obama don't seem to know that:
In 1979 6,912,000 or 13.4% of all hourly workers worked at minimum wage or of the total hourly workers of 51,582,090
In 1989 3,162,000 or 50% LESS working at minimum wage of the 62,000,000 people working at hourly wage
In 2009 there were 3,572,000 people working at minimum wage of the total work force of 72,897,959 at hourly wage or 4.9%
Finally in 2013 there were 3,300,000 working at minimum or 4.3% of 76,744,186 that work at hourly or 4.3%
AND of the 3.3 million working at minimum wage:
Among employed teenagers paid by the hour, about 21 percent earned the minimum wage or less, compared
with about 3 percent of workers age 25 and the remaining at age 16 to 24 years,1,797,000 at or below minimum wage.
Tables 1 - 10 Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers 2012

As a "graduate degreed" person you should then comprehend that the ONLY people that will really be hurt by $15.00 minimum wage are
those people age 16 - 24.
These people have little or no skills and get on the job training that helps get better jobs.
BUT by raising minimum wage you will be putting these people out of work thus increasing unemployment.
The youth unemployment rate was 14.3 percent in July 2014,
Employment and Unemployment Among Youth Summary

There is a need for a balancing mechanism to regulate avarice...avarice is like friction ....you need friction in order to have traction ...without it you are slipping and sliding....however too much friction will create heat that can burn up stuff and bring things to a halt...

I see Government as serving a balancing regulatory role viz a viz greed....

IOW you want the government to dictate how much people can own.

 

[Redfish]

a business does not get to decide what it can spend on labor????????? WTF is wrong with you? Have you ever actually had a job?

Yes. Several. Take Wal Mart for example. When 6 Waltons are worth more than the lower 40% of americans they can afford a lot better than 9 or 10$ an hour.They want to be greedy pieces of shit then governme is forced to step in.

the Waltons are rich because they successfully created a chain of stores that millions of people shop at. They make a very small % profit but its on a very large volume of sales.

If they are forced to raise their employee pay (which is above minimum wage in every store) they will either have to reduce the number of employees or raise prices, either of which hurts poor people the most.

less than 3% of working americans make minimum wage and the vast majority of those are teens making pocket money in part time jobs.

minimum wage is not a problem in this country, but it makes a good sympathy rant for liberals.

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

A Left wing white supremacist. LMAO!

OMG that never gets old!

Racial Socialist as I have said a dozen times.You act like its some surprise.

Right. Like I'm going to tell one bedsheet from another. Same shit, different blender speed.

Not even close. Klan is a christian group and hates socialism...

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

r

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

That's already the case.

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...

Minimum wage talk is a joke. To small of a demographic to impact the economy

-Geaux

Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

You work for a fair wage. PERIOD. Fair wage is NOT something you can't pay bills,childcare,food,gas with. End of story.

a business does not get to decide what it can spend on labor????????? WTF is wrong with you? Have you ever actually had a job?

Yes. Several. Take Wal Mart for example. When 6 Waltons are worth more than the lower 40% of americans they can afford a lot better than 9 or 10$ an hour.They want to be greedy pieces of shit then governme is forced to step in.

the Waltons are rich because they successfully created a chain of stores that millions of people shop at. They make a very small % profit but its on a very large volume of sales.

If they are forced to raise their employee pay (which is above minimum wage in every store) they will either have to reduce the number of employees or raise prices, either of which hurts poor people the most.

less than 3% of working americans make minimum wage and the vast majority of those are teens making pocket money in part time jobs.

minimum wage is not a problem in this country, but it makes a good sympathy rant for liberals.

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

A Left wing white supremacist. LMAO!

OMG that never gets old!

Racial Socialist as I have said a dozen times.You act like its some surprise.

Right. Like I'm going to tell one bedsheet from another. Same shit, different blender speed.

Not even close. Klan is a christian group and hates socialism...

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

yes they are

r

That desire is what drives you to not be so fucking worthless the government has to negotiate a wage for you. If you are making minimum wage it's because it's what you're worth. That also means you are easily replaceable because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else that would be worth more to an employer. So the government steps in and demands a wage that isn't worth paying and you lose your job entirely. That's how it works.

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

That's already the case.

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...

Minimum wage talk is a joke. To small of a demographic to impact the economy

-Geaux

Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

if you cannot make ends meet with the income from one job, get a second job. Thats what I did when I was young. I did not demand that my employer give me more because I needed (wanted) more. I got out and made the sacrifices to get what I wanted in life, and I was very very successful as a result.

The constitution does not guarantee equal results, only equal opportunity.

I will never understand why people like you want a socialist government where your destiny is determined by the beaurocracy rather than by yourself.

is it laziness, stupidity, brainwashing?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yes. Several. Take Wal Mart for example. When 6 Waltons are worth more than the lower 40% of americans they can afford a lot better than 9 or 10$ an hour.They want to be greedy pieces of shit then governme is forced to step in.

the Waltons are rich because they successfully created a chain of stores that millions of people shop at. They make a very small % profit but its on a very large volume of sales.

If they are forced to raise their employee pay (which is above minimum wage in every store) they will either have to reduce the number of employees or raise prices, either of which hurts poor people the most.

less than 3% of working americans make minimum wage and the vast majority of those are teens making pocket money in part time jobs.

minimum wage is not a problem in this country, but it makes a good sympathy rant for liberals.

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

Racial Socialist as I have said a dozen times.You act like its some surprise.

Right. Like I'm going to tell one bedsheet from another. Same shit, different blender speed.

Not even close. Klan is a christian group and hates socialism...

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

r

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

That's already the case.

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...

Minimum wage talk is a joke. To small of a demographic to impact the economy

-Geaux

Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

You work for a fair wage. PERIOD. Fair wage is NOT something you can't pay bills,childcare,food,gas with. End of story.

Yes. Several. Take Wal Mart for example. When 6 Waltons are worth more than the lower 40% of americans they can afford a lot better than 9 or 10$ an hour.They want to be greedy pieces of shit then governme is forced to step in.

the Waltons are rich because they successfully created a chain of stores that millions of people shop at. They make a very small % profit but its on a very large volume of sales.

If they are forced to raise their employee pay (which is above minimum wage in every store) they will either have to reduce the number of employees or raise prices, either of which hurts poor people the most.

less than 3% of working americans make minimum wage and the vast majority of those are teens making pocket money in part time jobs.

minimum wage is not a problem in this country, but it makes a good sympathy rant for liberals.

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

Racial Socialist as I have said a dozen times.You act like its some surprise.

Right. Like I'm going to tell one bedsheet from another. Same shit, different blender speed.

Not even close. Klan is a christian group and hates socialism...

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

yes they are

r

Then allow ALL workers to unionize.

That's already the case.

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...

Minimum wage talk is a joke. To small of a demographic to impact the economy

-Geaux

Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

if you cannot make ends meet with the income from one job, get a second job. Thats what I did when I was young. I did not demand that my employer give me more because I needed (wanted) more. I got out and made the sacrifices to get what I wanted in life, and I was very very successful as a result.

The constitution does not guarantee equal results, only equal opportunity.

I will never understand why people like you want a socialist government where your destiny is determined by the beaurocracy rather than by yourself.

is it laziness, stupidity, brainwashing?

I see it all the time

I have employees whine about their finances and my lowest paid part time person gets 16 an hour.

I have people that I have offered full time and they declined yet still whine that they are broke.

I stopped listening to them and if anyone of them asks for full time I would grant it only as a last resort preferring instead to hire a person who actually wants full time

 

[Redfish]

the Waltons are rich because they successfully created a chain of stores that millions of people shop at. They make a very small % profit but its on a very large volume of sales.

If they are forced to raise their employee pay (which is above minimum wage in every store) they will either have to reduce the number of employees or raise prices, either of which hurts poor people the most.

less than 3% of working americans make minimum wage and the vast majority of those are teens making pocket money in part time jobs.

minimum wage is not a problem in this country, but it makes a good sympathy rant for liberals.

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

Right. Like I'm going to tell one bedsheet from another. Same shit, different blender speed.

Not even close. Klan is a christian group and hates socialism...

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

r

That's already the case.

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...

Minimum wage talk is a joke. To small of a demographic to impact the economy

-Geaux

Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

You work for a fair wage. PERIOD. Fair wage is NOT something you can't pay bills,childcare,food,gas with. End of story.

the Waltons are rich because they successfully created a chain of stores that millions of people shop at. They make a very small % profit but its on a very large volume of sales.

If they are forced to raise their employee pay (which is above minimum wage in every store) they will either have to reduce the number of employees or raise prices, either of which hurts poor people the most.

less than 3% of working americans make minimum wage and the vast majority of those are teens making pocket money in part time jobs.

minimum wage is not a problem in this country, but it makes a good sympathy rant for liberals.

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

Right. Like I'm going to tell one bedsheet from another. Same shit, different blender speed.

Not even close. Klan is a christian group and hates socialism...

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

yes they are

r

That's already the case.

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...

Minimum wage talk is a joke. To small of a demographic to impact the economy

-Geaux

Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

if you cannot make ends meet with the income from one job, get a second job. Thats what I did when I was young. I did not demand that my employer give me more because I needed (wanted) more. I got out and made the sacrifices to get what I wanted in life, and I was very very successful as a result.

The constitution does not guarantee equal results, only equal opportunity.

I will never understand why people like you want a socialist government where your destiny is determined by the beaurocracy rather than by yourself.

is it laziness, stupidity, brainwashing?

I see it all the time

I have employees whine about their finances and my lowest paid part time person gets 16 an hour.

I have people that I have offered full time and they declined yet still whine that they are broke.

I stopped listening to them and if anyone of them asks for full time I would grant it only as a last resort preferring instead to hire a person who actually wants full time

60 years of liberlism has created a dependency culture. its truly a sad state of affairs when a large % of the population wants to be dependent on the government.

 

[Skull Pilot]

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

Not even close. Klan is a christian group and hates socialism...

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

r

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...
Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

You work for a fair wage. PERIOD. Fair wage is NOT something you can't pay bills,childcare,food,gas with. End of story.

1. They are rich because their granddaddy made it rich they did not
2. No they would not have to raise prices that's more of the right wing bullshit that's been debunked.

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

Not even close. Klan is a christian group and hates socialism...

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

yes they are

r

You tried unionizing at Wal Mart? I look forward to the day they unionize here...
Its not just about min wage workers. EVERYONE should be given a wage they can live off of pay bills,gas,food,child care etc 35K a year a least...

Why? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

if you cannot make ends meet with the income from one job, get a second job. Thats what I did when I was young. I did not demand that my employer give me more because I needed (wanted) more. I got out and made the sacrifices to get what I wanted in life, and I was very very successful as a result.

The constitution does not guarantee equal results, only equal opportunity.

I will never understand why people like you want a socialist government where your destiny is determined by the beaurocracy rather than by yourself.

is it laziness, stupidity, brainwashing?

I see it all the time

I have employees whine about their finances and my lowest paid part time person gets 16 an hour.

I have people that I have offered full time and they declined yet still whine that they are broke.

I stopped listening to them and if anyone of them asks for full time I would grant it only as a last resort preferring instead to hire a person who actually wants full time

60 years of liberlism has created a dependency culture. its truly a sad state of affairs when a large % of the population wants to be dependent on the government.

It's an accepted thing now when there used to be a stigma attached to going on the dole.

I think we should make people feel ashamed of sucking on the government tit like we used to

 

[Iceweasel]

Oh, I see. so instead of paying an employee $20.00 an hour to do a task ( job ), a business will pay double that just out of the goodness of its heart? Or, a business will pay a janitor $40.00 an hour just to feel good about itself? What's a lie? Where did I lie? A business is not going to pay an employee any more than they have to pay. What business do you know of that pays employees way more than the going rate? Name a business that pays way outside the going rate for any particular job? I have owned two businesses, and yet, you say that I know nothing about running a business? That shows just how little you know.

Also, your childish and silly name calling and personal attack is school yard stuff, and has no place on forums where adults are attempting to have civil conversations. Your age? If you think that immature "cyber mouth" comment makes you appear to be intelligent and "all-knowing", think again. FYI - Business is NOT out of my grasp. If there's anything that you'd like to know or learn about "business", just ask. I'll be glad to help you in any way that I can. I do not mind sharing knowledge or my many years of experience.

Again, what lie did I tell, or what lie are you referring to? Care to tell me the lie that you think I told? And, please grow up and at least appear to be adult in these conversations. Childish remarks and comments add absolutely nothing to these conversations.

You speak like a toddler and demand respect. You lie, then twist other people's words around to make your idiotic ill informed posts. Sometimes businesses do pay out of the goodness of their hearts. Sometimes what they feel they should. Sometimes to keep the help there, especially if the job is unpleasant. It depends on the business and a bunch of variables. Not all of us fit into your small toggle switch world view.

If YOU owned two businesses and payed them only what you had to that explains which category you fit into. Don't project your shortcomings onto others. We are not all like you. And if you are going to make idiotic, dishonest statements about what people say and get rile up when they call you on it it, it's YOU that needs to grow up.

Very silly and childish. Again, what lie did I tell? Where did I lie? What was idiotic? Please point out the lie(s) and the idiotic statement(s). Can you? You're the one that needs to grow up and act civil and adult on this forum. What shortcomings? Care to explain? Or, are you talking hoping that you'll sound good and impressive? Who are you trying to impress? Or, is all of that childish talk for your benefit only? Your age?

I quoted your lie, you fool. You can't even read but you're going to lecture everyone on how evil and cheap all businesses are. That's a special kind of stupid and your constant sniveling like a schoolgirl doesn't help.

I've always paid employees more than I had to, you didn't so you can stuff your insults where they belong. You don't speak for anyone but yourself, you cheap bastard!

 

[kiwiman127]

"Hate is not a Christian value"-Redfish
Actually the Bible states that hate is equivalent to murder. John 1 3:15.
Reading most of the threads/posts/signatures on USMB, indicates we have very, very few true Christians on board here. but we do have a ton of fake Christians.

But as we all know, disagreeing with a liberal IS hate.

Actually, I find that disagreeing with specific people on this board, whether they are liberal or conservative, I don't feel the love.

 

[danielpalos]

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

rWhy? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

You work for a fair wage. PERIOD. Fair wage is NOT something you can't pay bills,childcare,food,gas with. End of story.

No, the bullshit is all coming from the left. A very small % of walmart employees make minimum wage, and they only make it during a short training period, then their pay in increeased. MW is really not an issue in this country. Fast food workers here in NOLA start at more than MW, and the fast food outlets are always looking for people.

MW is nothing but a left wing wedge issue that is used to stir up discontent amoung the ignorant. It obviously works on you.

But it sounds like you want every walmart employee to get a raise because you are jealous of the success of the Walton family.

the KKK is not Christian. Hate is not a Christian value.

yes they are

rWhy? you really give yourself away when you use the word "given" a wage. In your left wing mind you don't understand working for your money, you just want it "given" to you. Because its only "fair" right?

if you cannot make ends meet with the income from one job, get a second job. Thats what I did when I was young. I did not demand that my employer give me more because I needed (wanted) more. I got out and made the sacrifices to get what I wanted in life, and I was very very successful as a result.

The constitution does not guarantee equal results, only equal opportunity.

I will never understand why people like you want a socialist government where your destiny is determined by the beaurocracy rather than by yourself.

is it laziness, stupidity, brainwashing?

I see it all the time

I have employees whine about their finances and my lowest paid part time person gets 16 an hour.

I have people that I have offered full time and they declined yet still whine that they are broke.

I stopped listening to them and if anyone of them asks for full time I would grant it only as a last resort preferring instead to hire a person who actually wants full time

60 years of liberlism has created a dependency culture. its truly a sad state of affairs when a large % of the population wants to be dependent on the government.

It's an accepted thing now when there used to be a stigma attached to going on the dole.

I think we should make people feel ashamed of sucking on the government tit like we used to

why? there is no longer any willful appeal to ignorance of a federal doctrine and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.

 

[Sonny Clark]

Oh, I see. so instead of paying an employee $20.00 an hour to do a task ( job ), a business will pay double that just out of the goodness of its heart? Or, a business will pay a janitor $40.00 an hour just to feel good about itself? What's a lie? Where did I lie? A business is not going to pay an employee any more than they have to pay. What business do you know of that pays employees way more than the going rate? Name a business that pays way outside the going rate for any particular job? I have owned two businesses, and yet, you say that I know nothing about running a business? That shows just how little you know.

Also, your childish and silly name calling and personal attack is school yard stuff, and has no place on forums where adults are attempting to have civil conversations. Your age? If you think that immature "cyber mouth" comment makes you appear to be intelligent and "all-knowing", think again. FYI - Business is NOT out of my grasp. If there's anything that you'd like to know or learn about "business", just ask. I'll be glad to help you in any way that I can. I do not mind sharing knowledge or my many years of experience.

Again, what lie did I tell, or what lie are you referring to? Care to tell me the lie that you think I told? And, please grow up and at least appear to be adult in these conversations. Childish remarks and comments add absolutely nothing to these conversations.

You speak like a toddler and demand respect. You lie, then twist other people's words around to make your idiotic ill informed posts. Sometimes businesses do pay out of the goodness of their hearts. Sometimes what they feel they should. Sometimes to keep the help there, especially if the job is unpleasant. It depends on the business and a bunch of variables. Not all of us fit into your small toggle switch world view.

If YOU owned two businesses and payed them only what you had to that explains which category you fit into. Don't project your shortcomings onto others. We are not all like you. And if you are going to make idiotic, dishonest statements about what people say and get rile up when they call you on it it, it's YOU that needs to grow up.

Very silly and childish. Again, what lie did I tell? Where did I lie? What was idiotic? Please point out the lie(s) and the idiotic statement(s). Can you? You're the one that needs to grow up and act civil and adult on this forum. What shortcomings? Care to explain? Or, are you talking hoping that you'll sound good and impressive? Who are you trying to impress? Or, is all of that childish talk for your benefit only? Your age?

I quoted your lie, you fool. You can't even read but you're going to lecture everyone on how evil and cheap all businesses are. That's a special kind of stupid and your constant sniveling like a schoolgirl doesn't help.

I've always paid employees more than I had to, you didn't so you can stuff your insults where they belong. You don't speak for anyone but yourself, you cheap bastard!

You have no idea as to what I paid my employees. And, I told no lies. If you can't point to what you consider to be lies, there were no lies. And, again, calling me names is very immature and silly on your part. In the future, please try to be adult and civil. As far as I can tell, you're not impressing anyone with your childish school yard rants. For your information, I paid my employees very well, very well. I took care of them, and they took care of me. I appreciated them, and they likewise appreciated me. You don't know me or anything about me. You're doing nothing more than blowing hot air about something you know nothing about. Your age?

 

[Iceweasel]

Oh, I see. so instead of paying an employee $20.00 an hour to do a task ( job ), a business will pay double that just out of the goodness of its heart? Or, a business will pay a janitor $40.00 an hour just to feel good about itself? What's a lie? Where did I lie? A business is not going to pay an employee any more than they have to pay. What business do you know of that pays employees way more than the going rate? Name a business that pays way outside the going rate for any particular job? I have owned two businesses, and yet, you say that I know nothing about running a business? That shows just how little you know.

Also, your childish and silly name calling and personal attack is school yard stuff, and has no place on forums where adults are attempting to have civil conversations. Your age? If you think that immature "cyber mouth" comment makes you appear to be intelligent and "all-knowing", think again. FYI - Business is NOT out of my grasp. If there's anything that you'd like to know or learn about "business", just ask. I'll be glad to help you in any way that I can. I do not mind sharing knowledge or my many years of experience.

Again, what lie did I tell, or what lie are you referring to? Care to tell me the lie that you think I told? And, please grow up and at least appear to be adult in these conversations. Childish remarks and comments add absolutely nothing to these conversations.

You speak like a toddler and demand respect. You lie, then twist other people's words around to make your idiotic ill informed posts. Sometimes businesses do pay out of the goodness of their hearts. Sometimes what they feel they should. Sometimes to keep the help there, especially if the job is unpleasant. It depends on the business and a bunch of variables. Not all of us fit into your small toggle switch world view.

If YOU owned two businesses and payed them only what you had to that explains which category you fit into. Don't project your shortcomings onto others. We are not all like you. And if you are going to make idiotic, dishonest statements about what people say and get rile up when they call you on it it, it's YOU that needs to grow up.

Very silly and childish. Again, what lie did I tell? Where did I lie? What was idiotic? Please point out the lie(s) and the idiotic statement(s). Can you? You're the one that needs to grow up and act civil and adult on this forum. What shortcomings? Care to explain? Or, are you talking hoping that you'll sound good and impressive? Who are you trying to impress? Or, is all of that childish talk for your benefit only? Your age?

I quoted your lie, you fool. You can't even read but you're going to lecture everyone on how evil and cheap all businesses are. That's a special kind of stupid and your constant sniveling like a schoolgirl doesn't help.

I've always paid employees more than I had to, you didn't so you can stuff your insults where they belong. You don't speak for anyone but yourself, you cheap bastard!

You have no idea as to what I paid my employees. And, I told no lies. If you can't point to what you consider to be lies, there were no lies. And, again, calling me names is very immature and silly on your part. In the future, please try to be adult and civil. As far as I can tell, you're not impressing anyone with your childish school yard rants. For your information, I paid my employees very well, very well. I took care of them, and they took care of me. I appreciated them, and they likewise appreciated me. You don't know me or anything about me. You're doing nothing more than blowing hot air about something you know nothing about. Your age?

Then you lied when you said businesses only pay what they have to. You just defeated your own argument. Your IQ?

 

[danielpalos]

Oh, I see. so instead of paying an employee $20.00 an hour to do a task ( job ), a business will pay double that just out of the goodness of its heart? Or, a business will pay a janitor $40.00 an hour just to feel good about itself? What's a lie? Where did I lie? A business is not going to pay an employee any more than they have to pay. What business do you know of that pays employees way more than the going rate? Name a business that pays way outside the going rate for any particular job? I have owned two businesses, and yet, you say that I know nothing about running a business? That shows just how little you know.

Also, your childish and silly name calling and personal attack is school yard stuff, and has no place on forums where adults are attempting to have civil conversations. Your age? If you think that immature "cyber mouth" comment makes you appear to be intelligent and "all-knowing", think again. FYI - Business is NOT out of my grasp. If there's anything that you'd like to know or learn about "business", just ask. I'll be glad to help you in any way that I can. I do not mind sharing knowledge or my many years of experience.

Again, what lie did I tell, or what lie are you referring to? Care to tell me the lie that you think I told? And, please grow up and at least appear to be adult in these conversations. Childish remarks and comments add absolutely nothing to these conversations.

You speak like a toddler and demand respect. You lie, then twist other people's words around to make your idiotic ill informed posts. Sometimes businesses do pay out of the goodness of their hearts. Sometimes what they feel they should. Sometimes to keep the help there, especially if the job is unpleasant. It depends on the business and a bunch of variables. Not all of us fit into your small toggle switch world view.

If YOU owned two businesses and payed them only what you had to that explains which category you fit into. Don't project your shortcomings onto others. We are not all like you. And if you are going to make idiotic, dishonest statements about what people say and get rile up when they call you on it it, it's YOU that needs to grow up.

Very silly and childish. Again, what lie did I tell? Where did I lie? What was idiotic? Please point out the lie(s) and the idiotic statement(s). Can you? You're the one that needs to grow up and act civil and adult on this forum. What shortcomings? Care to explain? Or, are you talking hoping that you'll sound good and impressive? Who are you trying to impress? Or, is all of that childish talk for your benefit only? Your age?

I quoted your lie, you fool. You can't even read but you're going to lecture everyone on how evil and cheap all businesses are. That's a special kind of stupid and your constant sniveling like a schoolgirl doesn't help.

I've always paid employees more than I had to, you didn't so you can stuff your insults where they belong. You don't speak for anyone but yourself, you cheap bastard!

You have no idea as to what I paid my employees. And, I told no lies. If you can't point to what you consider to be lies, there were no lies. And, again, calling me names is very immature and silly on your part. In the future, please try to be adult and civil. As far as I can tell, you're not impressing anyone with your childish school yard rants. For your information, I paid my employees very well, very well. I took care of them, and they took care of me. I appreciated them, and they likewise appreciated me. You don't know me or anything about me. You're doing nothing more than blowing hot air about something you know nothing about. Your age?

Would employers object to a general tax for unemployment compensation over our current regime?

 

[Sonny Clark]

Oh, I see. so instead of paying an employee $20.00 an hour to do a task ( job ), a business will pay double that just out of the goodness of its heart? Or, a business will pay a janitor $40.00 an hour just to feel good about itself? What's a lie? Where did I lie? A business is not going to pay an employee any more than they have to pay. What business do you know of that pays employees way more than the going rate? Name a business that pays way outside the going rate for any particular job? I have owned two businesses, and yet, you say that I know nothing about running a business? That shows just how little you know.

Also, your childish and silly name calling and personal attack is school yard stuff, and has no place on forums where adults are attempting to have civil conversations. Your age? If you think that immature "cyber mouth" comment makes you appear to be intelligent and "all-knowing", think again. FYI - Business is NOT out of my grasp. If there's anything that you'd like to know or learn about "business", just ask. I'll be glad to help you in any way that I can. I do not mind sharing knowledge or my many years of experience.

Again, what lie did I tell, or what lie are you referring to? Care to tell me the lie that you think I told? And, please grow up and at least appear to be adult in these conversations. Childish remarks and comments add absolutely nothing to these conversations.

You speak like a toddler and demand respect. You lie, then twist other people's words around to make your idiotic ill informed posts. Sometimes businesses do pay out of the goodness of their hearts. Sometimes what they feel they should. Sometimes to keep the help there, especially if the job is unpleasant. It depends on the business and a bunch of variables. Not all of us fit into your small toggle switch world view.

If YOU owned two businesses and payed them only what you had to that explains which category you fit into. Don't project your shortcomings onto others. We are not all like you. And if you are going to make idiotic, dishonest statements about what people say and get rile up when they call you on it it, it's YOU that needs to grow up.

Very silly and childish. Again, what lie did I tell? Where did I lie? What was idiotic? Please point out the lie(s) and the idiotic statement(s). Can you? You're the one that needs to grow up and act civil and adult on this forum. What shortcomings? Care to explain? Or, are you talking hoping that you'll sound good and impressive? Who are you trying to impress? Or, is all of that childish talk for your benefit only? Your age?

I quoted your lie, you fool. You can't even read but you're going to lecture everyone on how evil and cheap all businesses are. That's a special kind of stupid and your constant sniveling like a schoolgirl doesn't help.

I've always paid employees more than I had to, you didn't so you can stuff your insults where they belong. You don't speak for anyone but yourself, you cheap bastard!

You have no idea as to what I paid my employees. And, I told no lies. If you can't point to what you consider to be lies, there were no lies. And, again, calling me names is very immature and silly on your part. In the future, please try to be adult and civil. As far as I can tell, you're not impressing anyone with your childish school yard rants. For your information, I paid my employees very well, very well. I took care of them, and they took care of me. I appreciated them, and they likewise appreciated me. You don't know me or anything about me. You're doing nothing more than blowing hot air about something you know nothing about. Your age?

Then you lied when you said businesses only pay what they have to. You just defeated your own argument. Your IQ?

Businesses do not pay more than they feel they have to pay. Employers general pay the going rate for location and type of work. I paid my employees enough to encourage them to do an excellent job for me, which all of them did. Employers are not going to pay anyone double for work. Employers are not charity organizations. They're in business to make money. I have told NO lies, and until you can point to the words that you consider to be lies, there were no lies. My IQ is 123 according to the government GCT. But, that was years ago. I'm not sure what the IQ was the last time I was tested, my employer did not tell me the results of the test. It was for company benefit only. I can only imagine that it's close to the same now. Why? Are you questioning my IQ because you disagree with me? Or, is it just another childish attempt at a slur? What's your IQ? What's your age? Do you always use childish remarks to respond to others, or are you just having a bad day today? Do you honestly believe that having a civil and adult conversation with someone you don't know anything about, on a public forum, is mature and the accepted way to approach discussing subject matter?

 

[paulitician]

Hey look, if you can't or won't pay someone a decent wage, you don't belong in business. Employees are not volunteers. They have bills to pay and children to take care of too. They're not there to do volunteer work so you can become wealthier. They're in it for the same reason you are. It's the $$$. So if you don't wanna pay em, it's time to close up shop.

Everyone in America is in it for themselves. No one's gonna work for shite wages just so you can become wealthy and successful. That's just not gonna happen. The only suggestion would be, to hire family members and hope they do the work for lower wages. Kinda like volunteers helpin a loved one out. Otherwise, you gotta pay. It is what it is.

 

[Sonny Clark]

Oh, I see. so instead of paying an employee $20.00 an hour to do a task ( job ), a business will pay double that just out of the goodness of its heart? Or, a business will pay a janitor $40.00 an hour just to feel good about itself? What's a lie? Where did I lie? A business is not going to pay an employee any more than they have to pay. What business do you know of that pays employees way more than the going rate? Name a business that pays way outside the going rate for any particular job? I have owned two businesses, and yet, you say that I know nothing about running a business? That shows just how little you know.

Also, your childish and silly name calling and personal attack is school yard stuff, and has no place on forums where adults are attempting to have civil conversations. Your age? If you think that immature "cyber mouth" comment makes you appear to be intelligent and "all-knowing", think again. FYI - Business is NOT out of my grasp. If there's anything that you'd like to know or learn about "business", just ask. I'll be glad to help you in any way that I can. I do not mind sharing knowledge or my many years of experience.

Again, what lie did I tell, or what lie are you referring to? Care to tell me the lie that you think I told? And, please grow up and at least appear to be adult in these conversations. Childish remarks and comments add absolutely nothing to these conversations.

You speak like a toddler and demand respect. You lie, then twist other people's words around to make your idiotic ill informed posts. Sometimes businesses do pay out of the goodness of their hearts. Sometimes what they feel they should. Sometimes to keep the help there, especially if the job is unpleasant. It depends on the business and a bunch of variables. Not all of us fit into your small toggle switch world view.

If YOU owned two businesses and payed them only what you had to that explains which category you fit into. Don't project your shortcomings onto others. We are not all like you. And if you are going to make idiotic, dishonest statements about what people say and get rile up when they call you on it it, it's YOU that needs to grow up.

Very silly and childish. Again, what lie did I tell? Where did I lie? What was idiotic? Please point out the lie(s) and the idiotic statement(s). Can you? You're the one that needs to grow up and act civil and adult on this forum. What shortcomings? Care to explain? Or, are you talking hoping that you'll sound good and impressive? Who are you trying to impress? Or, is all of that childish talk for your benefit only? Your age?

I quoted your lie, you fool. You can't even read but you're going to lecture everyone on how evil and cheap all businesses are. That's a special kind of stupid and your constant sniveling like a schoolgirl doesn't help.

I've always paid employees more than I had to, you didn't so you can stuff your insults where they belong. You don't speak for anyone but yourself, you cheap bastard!

You have no idea as to what I paid my employees. And, I told no lies. If you can't point to what you consider to be lies, there were no lies. And, again, calling me names is very immature and silly on your part. In the future, please try to be adult and civil. As far as I can tell, you're not impressing anyone with your childish school yard rants. For your information, I paid my employees very well, very well. I took care of them, and they took care of me. I appreciated them, and they likewise appreciated me. You don't know me or anything about me. You're doing nothing more than blowing hot air about something you know nothing about. Your age?

Would employers object to a general tax for unemployment compensation over our current regime?

In my opinion, employers always want what's fair across the board. And, I'm not speaking of large corporations, but small businesses and mom and pop operations. ( it's a given that large corporations, generally speaking, couldn't care less about anything except the bottom line ) Unemployment compensation is vital and necessary in today's economic environment. Workers need some insurance in case a business folds up, relocates, or down-sizes. Workers' unemployment compensation helps during the transition period between jobs. Employers are already paying a workman's compensation tax ( fee ). If an employer employs a certain number of employees, they are required to pay into the workman's compensation fund. Yes, it can be considered a tax.

What regime are you referring to? What is our current regime? And, how is it different from the already established workers' compensation guidelines?