Byron Donalds Lies | LBJ's War On Poverty Defeated Jim Crow And Still Helps Black Families

[IM2]

Unfortunately there's no shortage of race baiting assholes like the guy in the video, willing to tell complete lies, with perceived authority. And there are a ton of gullible freaks that will eat that shit up.

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The only race baiters are whihte. The guy in the video backed up what he said with facts.

 

[IM2]

Oh he tried, I simply point him to 10:30 of the video.

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You pointed to an error he made whereby he was taking about chain gangs. The rest of his video was supported by data. But you don't care because you believe he same erroneous racist bullshit. You want to talk about his error, but there is this:

"In 1965, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s report, The Negro Family: The Case for National Action, attributed racial inequality as well as poverty and crime in the black community to family structure, particularly the prevalence of families headed by single mothers. Not only did research at the time cast doubt on this causality, but evidence over the last the 50 years demonstrates that rates of child poverty, educational attainment, and crime do not track rates of single parenthood. Thus, even though the share of children living with a single mother rose for all racial and ethnic groups through the mid-1990s and has remained high since then, school completion and youth arrests for violent crimes have declined significantly, while poverty rates have fluctuated according to economic conditions. Family structure does not drive racial inequity, and racial inequity persists regardless of family structure."

-Amy Traub, Laura Sullivan, Tatjana Meschede and Thomas Shapiro, DEMOS, “The Asset Value of Whiteness: Understanding the Racial Wealth Gap.”

The belief about black families expressed by Donalds and people like you has been debunked for almost 60 years. So while you want to tell me that the lawyer Augustus Corbett lied because convict leasing ended in the 30's in North Carolina, the fact is that you and everybody making this claim about black families is a liar.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The probem with what you say is that the majority of whites were doing well to begin with, while the majority of blacks were made to live in poverty. 55 percent of blacks were in poverty in 1960. That is a majority. 83 percent of whites did not live in poverty in 1960. You do not take this into account.

Ok, I’ll agree with that, whites probably didn’t struggle with poverty like black people did.

My point was really about the substantial drop in the poverty rate of the black community. By your own post, the gap is now down to about 9% between blacks and whites.

 

[IM2]

Ok, I’ll agree with that, whites probably didn’t struggle with poverty like black people did.

My point was really about the substantial drop in the poverty rate of the black community.

And that proves the success of the Great Society. What the policy dd not eliminate was white backash.

 

[ThisIsMe]

And that proves the success of the Great Society. What the policy dd not eliminate was white backash.

Sure, but it also proves that white folk aren’t trying to hold black folk back. If they were, the poverty rate wouldn’t have decreased so much.

It also shows racism isn’t built into the system, if it were, black folks wouldn’t have made that jump

Don’t get me wrong, there are still things to do in racial inequality, but most of that is on a personal level.

 

[imawhosure]

Facts support the things I have said. Nobody suppoets segregation but you. Your emotion filled responses don't erase the facts. Byron Donalds was wrong. And the only people defending his comments here are right wing whites. I won't be voting for a return to Jim Crow. I have nothing to prove to you. So move on.

Listen, you arrogant ass! My grandchildren of which I have 3, are mixed. They are part black, white, Irish, Hispanic, and a bunch of other things mixed in.

YOU are the problem, or people like you! My grandchildren get along fine with all their peers, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc. YOU divide, not to divide, but to conquer. You MUST convince people that somehow they are getting screwed, and they are getting screwed because of the color of their skin.

Dude/duddete, YOU are an embarrassment. If your horse is sooooooooo damn high up your proverbial a**, then explain why you support Jim Crow Democrats, or is that to much for you to handle behind your phony-e-baloney, Jim Frickin Crow, moniker.

I have written this with 2 out of 3 of my grandchildren looking over my shoulder....... 1 is 17, 1 is 13, both of them 50% black. They are LAUGHING at you almost as hard as I am, lol.

You do realize that you ARE THE PAST, and NOBODY wants your divisiveness in the future.

You were NEVER a slave...........I have never owned a slave.......and for myself and my grandchildren.........you deserve NOTHING but an equal chance in this country.

If you do not like the option I have given you and want more..........go pound sand-)

 

[IM2]

Sure, but it also proves that white folk aren’t trying to hold black folk back. If they were, the poverty rate wouldn’t have decreased so much.

It also shows racism isn’t built into the system, if it were, black folks wouldn’t have made that jump

Don’t get me wrong, there are still things to do in racial inequality, but most of that is on a personal level.

Actually it doesn't show that because if whites weren't doing that black poverty would still not be double that of whites, blacks would earn the same amount of money for doing the same work, black unemployment would not be double that of whites, and I can go on and on showing you where your choice to believe this is a fallacy. If racism still exists, it also will exist in the system. Simply put, it's time whites on the right stopped lying to themselves about the problem or trying to dismiss the depth of the problem.

 

[IM2]

Listen, you arrogant ass! My grandchildren of which I have 3, are mixed. They are part black, white, Irish, Hispanic, and a bunch of other things mixed in.

YOU are the problem, or people like you! My grandchildren get along fine with all their peers, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc. YOU divide, not to divide, but to conquer. You MUST convince people that somehow they are getting screwed, and they are getting screwed because of the color of their skin.

Dude/duddete, YOU are an embarrassment. If your horse is sooooooooo damn high up your proverbial a**, then explain why you support Jim Crow Democrats, or is that to much for you to handle behind your phony-e-baloney, Jim Frickin Crow, moniker.

I have written this with 2 out of 3 of my grandchildren looking over my shoulder....... 1 is 17, 1 is 13, both of them 50% black. They are LAUGHING at you almost as hard as I am, lol.

You do realize that you ARE THE PAST, and NOBODY wants your divisiveness in the future.

You were NEVER a slave...........I have never owned a slave.......and for myself and my grandchildren.........you deserve NOTHING but an equal chance in this country.

If you do not like the option I have given you and want more..........go pound sand-)

I was born during Jim Crow and whites continued actng stupid after slavery on up to this very moment. So when yu call somone arrogabt look in the nirror. What your teenage kids laugh at is irrelevant since when I was 17 I thought racism was over and told my parents that things were not like it was when they were my age. The past has nothing to do with this discussion. Understand? You are the division in this country. You don't get to give options son, the fact is that equality doesn't exist and y0u being white fail to se that because yu have received all the preferences. So you can shut the hell up and take your silly grandkids with you. Because it's people like me that will make it so your supposed half black grandkids don't have to argue with idiots like you in the future.

So tell your uneducated grandchildren that they should not be laughing at a grown man with a masters degree because at this point in their lives the schooling they have only quaifies then for jobs flipping burgers.

 

[OKTexas]

The only race baiters are whihte. The guy in the video backed up what he said with facts.

No he didn't. he lied and I proved it. You just happen to be one of the gullible freaks. He lies and you swear to it, or just make excuses that he must have misspoke. The fact is, chain gangs working on govt projects were not considered convict leasing.

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[OKTexas]

You pointed to an error he made whereby he was taking about chain gangs. The rest of his video was supported by data. But you don't care because you believe he same erroneous racist bullshit. You want to talk about his error, but there is this:

"In 1965, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s report, The Negro Family: The Case for National Action, attributed racial inequality as well as poverty and crime in the black community to family structure, particularly the prevalence of families headed by single mothers. Not only did research at the time cast doubt on this causality, but evidence over the last the 50 years demonstrates that rates of child poverty, educational attainment, and crime do not track rates of single parenthood. Thus, even though the share of children living with a single mother rose for all racial and ethnic groups through the mid-1990s and has remained high since then, school completion and youth arrests for violent crimes have declined significantly, while poverty rates have fluctuated according to economic conditions. Family structure does not drive racial inequity, and racial inequity persists regardless of family structure."

-Amy Traub, Laura Sullivan, Tatjana Meschede and Thomas Shapiro, DEMOS, “The Asset Value of Whiteness: Understanding the Racial Wealth Gap.”

The belief about black families expressed by Donalds and people like you has been debunked for almost 60 years. So while you want to tell me that the lawyer Augustus Corbett lied because convict leasing ended in the 30's in North Carolina, the fact is that you and everybody making this claim about black families is a liar.

Your posting violation notwithstanding, I've already proved that crap to be pure propaganda as well.

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[ThisIsMe]

Actually it doesn't show that because if whites weren't doing that black poverty would still not be double that of whites, blacks would earn the same amount of money for doing the same work, black unemployment would not be double that of whites, and I can go on and on showing you where your choice to believe this is a fallacy. If racism still exists, it also will exist in the system. Simply put, it's time whites on the right stopped lying to themselves about the problem or trying to dismiss the depth of the problem.

But black poverty isn’t double that of whites. You just showed us, it’s currently about a 9% difference.

Where are the jobs where a black person and a white person are doing the exact same job, but the white person is being paid more?


What laws are currently on the books that promote racial inequality? For there to be a systemic problem, it would have to mean the system is currently working against one group via laws or policies built into that system.

I don’t see any systemic problems. I do believe that PEOPLE on an individual level, struggle with racism, and we need to work to correct that, but i don’t subscribe to the idea that the system itself is designed to hold anyone back.

Black people can flourish equally along side white people, as long as nobody (people) stands in their way.

 

[IM2]

No he didn't. he lied and I proved it. You just happen to be one of the gullible freaks. He lies and you swear to it, or just make excuses that he must have misspoke. The fact is, chain gangs working on govt projects were not considered convict leasing.

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You didn't prove anything. Chain gangs continued in North Carolina long after convict leasing ended. Again, the statement Donalds made was debunked nearly 60 years ago. Anyone who continue repeating his claim is lying.

 

[IM2]

Your posting violation notwithstanding, I've already proved that crap to be pure propaganda as well.

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There was no violation.

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[Toddsterpatriot]

but evidence over the last the 50 years demonstrates that rates of child poverty, educational attainment, and crime do not track rates of single parenthood.

What a garbage study. No doubt written by DEI hires.

 

[imawhosure]

I was born during Jim Crow and whites continued actng stupid after slavery on up to this very moment. So when yu call somone arrogabt look in the nirror. What your teenage kids laugh at is irrelevant since when I was 17 I thought racism was over and told my parents that things were not like it was when they were my age. The past has nothing to do with this discussion. Understand? You are the division in this country. You don't get to give options son, the fact is that equality doesn't exist and y0u being white fail to se that because yu have received all the preferences. So you can shut the hell up and take your silly grandkids with you. Because it's people like me that will make it so your supposed half black grandkids don't have to argue with idiots like you in the future.

So tell your uneducated grandchildren that they should not be laughing at a grown man with a masters degree because at this point in their lives the schooling they have only quaifies then for jobs flipping burgers.

My grandchildren are far more educated than you, lol. So are their peers.

You have a masters degree........in what.......how to point at pretend Masters phony-e-baloney ism, lol.

Just in case missa master, it is QUALIFY THEM, not your masters degree of quaifies. A Masters degree who can NOT spell, go figure.

You are seriously the BIGGEST phony on here. Not only can you not spell (Missa Masters degree) but you are incompetent, and incoherent at best.

I would call my other grandchild down here as I post to laugh at you, but he is only 7; although mentally, he is more than a match for you, lol. But then again, that is not fair. If he made you look incompetent, it would be akin to you whining because one of your shemales got booted off from a meet where a bunch of females put their butts on the line.

You know you have lost the argument, I know you did too, lol.

At some point, you are going to get HOSED, and HOSED big time. Not because you are black. Not because you are white. Not because you are Hispanic either. YOU are going to get HOSED because you are a subversive. And guess what! Subversive's get hosed no matter what color they are-)

Do not worry, lol. I will be there to defend you; even as they prove.............just like Hunter.............you are a CROOK!

 

[beagle9]

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This nation has had race based programming since Juy 4, 1776. White is a race dumbass. So we can't end race based anything as long as race created disadvantages continue. The law has never treated everybody equal.

OK, so it's time to judge people based upon their character, now what's the problem ? The problem is if you lose the racial/racist angle, then you feel as if your long term strategy will be lost.

 

[OKTexas]

You didn't prove anything. Chain gangs continued in North Carolina long after convict leasing ended. Again, the statement Donalds made was debunked nearly 60 years ago. Anyone who continue repeating his claim is lying.

A lot of things have changed in the last 60 years c**n. Of course no facts can drag your freak ass into the present.

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[OKTexas]

There was no violation.

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Poor little ignorant ass, to some that is a distinction without a difference. Been there, done that.

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[sparky]

Between 100 and 300 lynchings occurred in NC between 1883 and NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT

quess which race saw the most hang Lesh

~S~

 

[IM2]

My grandchildren are far more educated than you, lol. So are their peers.

You have a masters degree........in what.......how to point at pretend Masters phony-e-baloney ism, lol.

Just in case missa master, it is QUALIFY THEM, not your masters degree of quaifies. A Masters degree who can NOT spell, go figure.

You are seriously the BIGGEST phony on here. Not only can you not spell (Missa Masters degree) but you are incompetent, and incoherent at best.

I would call my other grandchild down here as I post to laugh at you, but he is only 7; although mentally, he is more than a match for you, lol. But then again, that is not fair. If he made you look incompetent, it would be akin to you whining because one of your shemales got booted off from a meet where a bunch of females put their butts on the line.

You know you have lost the argument, I know you did too, lol.

At some point, you are going to get HOSED, and HOSED big time. Not because you are black. Not because you are white. Not because you are Hispanic either. YOU are going to get HOSED because you are a subversive. And guess what! Subversive's get hosed no matter what color they are-)

Do not worry, lol. I will be there to defend you; even as they prove.............just like Hunter.............you are a CROOK!

No,, your grandchildren are not more educated than I am. You have infuence over them right now. They believe what you tell them about the world because that's what kids do They will learn that you were wrong about some things later on. I will not be getting hosed. I spell quite well, what I don't always do is check what I write before I post.

So its like ths:

The problem with people talking about how LBJ's Great Society Program damaged the black famility is that it is a lie. So let's start with the fact that the no man in the house rule which was blamed on Johnson was created by conservatives. That rule lasted from 1964 until 1968. A black woman took that to court and it was ended by the Supreme Court. So the Great Society has nothing to do with anything. But as I have posted before welfare started long before LBJ. So let's look at another handout whites have been given by the government.

Mothers' pensions​

Mothers' pensions, also referred to as mothers' aid or widows' aid, were cash payments distributed to impoverished single mothers in the United States during the first three decades of the 20th century. Introduced during the Progressive Era, they were among the earliest components of the modern American welfare state and were the first public cash assistance programs targeted to single mothers.

Mother's pensions were aimed at family preservation, intending to provide the means for poor single mothers to care for their children in their own homes. While primarily targeted at widows, they were also sometimes authorized for women whose husbands had deserted them, were confined to mental hospitals or prisons, or were physically or mentally incapacitated. They were financed and administered by state and local governments, and served as a precursor to the federal Aid to Dependent Children program created by the Social Security Act of 1935

Mothers' pensions - Wikipedia

So let’s look at the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Ths program provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children and no daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Aid to Dependent Children functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states with mothers’ aid laws that began in 1910.

The ADC plan was written by two ladies who had been former directors of what was at the time called the U.S. Children’s Bureau. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers had no support from a husband no matter how they got into that position. From the Children's Bureau in 1910 until 1965, no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and created the disintegration of the white family. I read no lectures about the irresponsible white father. The program was not denigrated as something creating dependence on government; it was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others besides whites be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.
Byron Donalds knew nothing about this. Neither do you and most certainly your grandkids don't. But you will fill their heads full of bullshit they are going to have to unlearn.

Man-in-the-House Rule​

In 1968 the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the regulation as being contrary to the legislative goals of the Aid to Families of Dependent Children (AFDC) program.

In King v. Smith, 392 U.S. 309, 88 S. Ct. 2128, 20 L. Ed. 2d 1118 (1968), the U.S. Supreme Court entertained a challenge to the man-in-the-house rule brought by the four children of Mrs. Sylvester Smith, a widow. These children were denied benefits by Dallas County, Alabama, welfare authorities, based on their knowledge that a man named Williams was visiting Smith on weekends and had sexual relations with her.

The children of Smith filed a CLASS ACTION suit in federal court on behalf of other children in Alabama who were denied benefits under Alabama's "substitute father" regulation. This regulation considered a man a substitute father if (1) he lived in the home with the mother; (2) he visited the home frequently for the purpose of living with the mother; or (3) he cohabited with the mother elsewhere (King, citing Alabama Manual for Administration of Public Assistance, pt. I, ch. II, § VI). Testimony in the case revealed that there was some confusion among the authorities over how to interpret the regulation. One official testified that the regulation applied only if the parties had sex at least once a week, another official testified that sex every three months was sufficient, and still another placed the frequency at once every six months.

According to the High Court, Congress did not intend that the AFDC program require children "to look for their food to a man who is not in the least obliged to support them." The Court maintained that when Congress used the term parent in the SOCIAL SECURITY ACT, it was referring to "an individual who owed to the child a state-imposed legal duty of support." Ultimately, the Court struck down the man-in-the-house rule by holding that under the AFDC provisions in the Social Security Act, "destitute children who are legally fatherless cannot be flatly denied federally funded assistance on the transparent fiction that they have a substitute father."

Man-in-the-House Rule

So the claim of black families being incentivized by government to have children out of wedlock is another untrue claim because that "incentive" was killed in 1968. So then the claim made by Donalds and people like you are false because the incentive that supposedly made it possible for black families to break up was gone in 1968.

The Growing Racial and Ethnic Divide in U.S. Marriage Patterns​

R. Kelly Raley, Megan M. Sweeney, and Danielle Wondra

"Although before the 1960s age at first marriage and the proportion of women ever married were similar among whites and blacks, blacks had higher rates of marital dissolution during this period."

The Growing Racial and Ethnic Divide in U.S. Marriage Patterns

The United States shows striking racial and ethnic differences in marriage patterns. Compared to both white and Hispanic women, black women marry later in life, are less likely to marry at all, and have higher rates of marital instability.Kelly Raley, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Donalds didn't know this because did didn't study it You don't know this because you haven't studied this. And your grandchildren are barely learning algebra. So then you are running yurmouth based on emotions. not fact or reality. You've come in here because I chose to attack a black republican for spewing dumb shit that supports or validates a racist view of black families. I don't give a damn what your white ass thinks. You are an example of the problem in America today. There is nothing subversive about reality. So show these facts to your grandchildren bitch, and allow them to learn something real.