Calif Train to Nowhere Cost At $77B and

[Meister]

By the time you get to Victorville your almost to Vegas. Who’s going to wait 2 hours for the train then have to rent a car once you get there?

You're not even almost to Barstow when you get to Victorville.

Yup. Victorville is just up the hill from San Bernardino, good grief, who thought up that one?

And we all know how special Victorville is....LOL.

Hey, hey, hey.....Roy Rogers had his Roy Rogers museum in Victorville, show a little reverence.

 

[danielpalos]

And billions more just to complete 119 miles from Bakersfield to Madera on flat even ground.

The few remaining Republicans had to go to court to get Democrats to conduct the audit.

California's rush to start building high-speed rail sent costs soaring

One of these bad boys cost $250M. California could have purchased 308 of these.
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High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

Lincoln got the Transcontinental R.R. going during the Civil War, in the days before greed and fiscal conservatism opposed major projects.

How much and how well did the Trillions $$$$$ of Dollars benefit our country, when spent to invade and occupy Iraq, and continue the war in Afghanistan? In fact we will continue to spend money to treat the thousands of men and women wounded physically and mentally (PTSD) in this war of choice well into the 21st Century.

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Flexible tunnel technologies; the Eureka State should be on it.

Great plan, you just quadrupled the cost.

We are getting into quantum mechanics, now; better planning can provide better solutions.

We should should establish a State Corps of Engineers to make sure public policy can be advanced in a practical manner.

 

[danielpalos]

And billions more just to complete 119 miles from Bakersfield to Madera on flat even ground.

The few remaining Republicans had to go to court to get Democrats to conduct the audit.

California's rush to start building high-speed rail sent costs soaring

One of these bad boys cost $250M. California could have purchased 308 of these.
View attachment 232051

High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

Lincoln got the Transcontinental R.R. going during the Civil War, in the days before greed and fiscal conservatism opposed major projects.

How much and how well did the Trillions $$$$$ of Dollars benefit our country, when spent to invade and occupy Iraq, and continue the war in Afghanistan? In fact we will continue to spend money to treat the thousands of men and women wounded physically and mentally (PTSD) in this war of choice well into the 21st Century.

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Flexible tunnel technologies; the Eureka State should be on it.

They should have had a good plan before they started, not try to figure it out as they go along.

We have quantum theory to consider, now.

 

[Oddball]

By the time you get to Victorville your almost to Vegas. Who’s going to wait 2 hours for the train then have to rent a car once you get there?

You're not even almost to Barstow when you get to Victorville.

Yup. Victorville is just up the hill from San Bernardino, good grief, who thought up that one?

And we all know how special Victorville is....LOL.

I've always wanted to visit George AFB!

 

[Oddball]

They should have had a good plan before they started, not try to figure it out as they go along.

I suspect the "plan" was like how the Eire Canal got built....Put in the middle of nowhere and pressure the following regimes to finish it....Difference being that the waterways back then were the main way to get things around...Passenger trains in Murica are obsolete.

 

[Yarddog]

Flawed bullet train planning adds billions to cost, years to schedule, says audit

Heres the thing. If HS rail is the future in California. The Authority should have done a smaller project. Say one from Sacramento to the Bay area. Using that project model they would have learned a lot and perhaps gotten a lot of bugs out for the next big project.
But Politicians do not typically think using common sense that most California residents could have told them.
Instead now they have to feel their way through a mega project built on hopes and dreams.

 

[Thinker101]

By the time you get to Victorville your almost to Vegas. Who’s going to wait 2 hours for the train then have to rent a car once you get there?

You're not even almost to Barstow when you get to Victorville.

Yup. Victorville is just up the hill from San Bernardino, good grief, who thought up that one?

And we all know how special Victorville is....LOL.

Hey, hey, hey.....Roy Rogers had his Roy Rogers museum in Victorville, show a little reverence.

Yup, and Trigger is probably still there.

 

[Meister]

And billions more just to complete 119 miles from Bakersfield to Madera on flat even ground.

The few remaining Republicans had to go to court to get Democrats to conduct the audit.

California's rush to start building high-speed rail sent costs soaring

One of these bad boys cost $250M. California could have purchased 308 of these.
View attachment 232051

High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

Lincoln got the Transcontinental R.R. going during the Civil War, in the days before greed and fiscal conservatism opposed major projects.

How much and how well did the Trillions $$$$$ of Dollars benefit our country, when spent to invade and occupy Iraq, and continue the war in Afghanistan? In fact we will continue to spend money to treat the thousands of men and women wounded physically and mentally (PTSD) in this war of choice well into the 21st Century.

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Flexible tunnel technologies; the Eureka State should be on it.

Great plan, you just quadrupled the cost.

We are getting into quantum mechanics, now; better planning can provide better solutions.

We should should establish a State Corps of Engineers to make sure public policy can be advanced in a practical manner.

Not that the state of Ca. has a debt of 400+ billion already. It can just put that pipe dream on the list.

 

[Thinker101]

High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

Lincoln got the Transcontinental R.R. going during the Civil War, in the days before greed and fiscal conservatism opposed major projects.

How much and how well did the Trillions $$$$$ of Dollars benefit our country, when spent to invade and occupy Iraq, and continue the war in Afghanistan? In fact we will continue to spend money to treat the thousands of men and women wounded physically and mentally (PTSD) in this war of choice well into the 21st Century.

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Flexible tunnel technologies; the Eureka State should be on it.

Great plan, you just quadrupled the cost.

We are getting into quantum mechanics, now; better planning can provide better solutions.

We should should establish a State Corps of Engineers to make sure public policy can be advanced in a practical manner.

Not that the state of Ca. has a debt of 400+ billion already. It can just put that pipe dream on the list.

Well, since 0=nothing, why not just add another zero?

 

[Tax Man]

Air tankers can only fly in low wind conditions, which was not the case in the Camp fire zone.

 

[Meister]

Has anyone even considered all the property that was aquired through eminent domain?
People lost property, and businesses through that process and were given "fair value" of the property.
Anyone know how the government determines "fair value"? I bet it leans to the buyer and not the seller.

 

[Tax Man]

California owes 1.3 Trillion and texas owes 48 billion.

 

[Tax Man]

Has anyone even considered all the property that was aquired through eminent domain?
People lost property, and businesses through that process and were given "fair value" of the property.
Anyone know how the government determines "fair value"? I bet it leans to the buyer and not the seller.

Actually that has been a real problem in the progress. The courts have been over generous to the farmers.

 

[BluesLegend]

High speed rail is the future

LOL earthquake derails high speed rail train.

 

[BluesLegend]

Can’t wait until California starts to get to hills, then mountains.

When they were building light rail in Portland, OR it was supposed to be specifically to get workers in/out of the city. Then the idiot libs decided hey, lets re-route it over to the zoo which required blasting a tunnel under a mountain and increased the costs like 35%.

 

[bodecea]

Yeah the train is muy stupid. IF they were going to build a high speed train, it should have been from LA to Vegas.

They actually are doing a rail line between the two, but on the LA end it's only going as far as Victorville, which is fucking retarded.

I've had some friends involved in this idea....as long as Nevada doesn't pony up for their end (and they won't because they aren't having any problems with people coming in) it won't get done. Ironically, from Victorville to Vegas is the easy part.....

 

[Carl in Michigan]

How much would a border wall thru California cost? Save?

 

[Wry Catcher]

And billions more just to complete 119 miles from Bakersfield to Madera on flat even ground.

The few remaining Republicans had to go to court to get Democrats to conduct the audit.

California's rush to start building high-speed rail sent costs soaring

One of these bad boys cost $250M. California could have purchased 308 of these.
View attachment 232051

High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

Lincoln got the Transcontinental R.R. going during the Civil War, in the days before greed and fiscal conservatism opposed major projects.

How much and how well did the Trillions $$$$$ of Dollars benefit our country, when spent to invade and occupy Iraq, and continue the war in Afghanistan? In fact we will continue to spend money to treat the thousands of men and women wounded physically and mentally (PTSD) in this war of choice well into the 21st Century.

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Why do you want others to believe the US can't build high speed trains? Rail between cities which reaches MPH faster than what we see and many experience every day at commute times (which continue to expand) rarely reach the legal speed limit.

Electric trains 'fueled' by solar panels & wind turbines are the future. If we were smart, we would invest in the latest and newest form of green, renewable and nuclear energy, and put coal burners out of business.

 

[Meister]

And billions more just to complete 119 miles from Bakersfield to Madera on flat even ground.

The few remaining Republicans had to go to court to get Democrats to conduct the audit.

California's rush to start building high-speed rail sent costs soaring

One of these bad boys cost $250M. California could have purchased 308 of these.
View attachment 232051

High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

Lincoln got the Transcontinental R.R. going during the Civil War, in the days before greed and fiscal conservatism opposed major projects.

How much and how well did the Trillions $$$$$ of Dollars benefit our country, when spent to invade and occupy Iraq, and continue the war in Afghanistan? In fact we will continue to spend money to treat the thousands of men and women wounded physically and mentally (PTSD) in this war of choice well into the 21st Century.

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Why do you want others to believe the US can't build high speed trains? Rail between cities which reaches MPH faster than what we see and many experience every day at commute times (which continue to expand) rarely reach the legal speed limit.

Electric trains 'fueled' by solar panels & wind turbines are the future. If we were smart, we would invest in the latest and newest form of green, renewable and nuclear energy, and put coal burners out of business.

California can't afford it.

 

[rightwinger]

And billions more just to complete 119 miles from Bakersfield to Madera on flat even ground.

The few remaining Republicans had to go to court to get Democrats to conduct the audit.

California's rush to start building high-speed rail sent costs soaring

One of these bad boys cost $250M. California could have purchased 308 of these.
View attachment 232051

Who wants to go from Bakersfield to madera?