California acknowledged leftist student 'shooter', 19, wrote an anti-Semitic manifesto

[Moonglow]

....national socialism is the core of the democrat party.....

National socialism and fascism are much closer to modern left-wing ideology than they are to modern, right-wing ideology.

So you know, Fascism is a form of ultranationalism which is radical right.

Why is nationalism considered a trait of fascism? By that standard, Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln were "fascists".

TN Harley would agree with you there.

There are all these self-proclaimed "experts" here on fascism that have obviously never actually read the tenets of fascism as written by the original fascists.

http://www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html

8. Outside the State there can be neither individuals nor groups (political parties, associations, syndicates, classes). Therefore Fascism is opposed to Socialism, which confines the movement of history within the class struggle and ignores the unity of classes established in one economic and moral reality in the State; and analogously it is opposed to class syndicalism. . . .

nuff said.

 

[K9Buck]

I know a large number of Republicans that don't care for Trump as well. Does that make them White Supremacists?

No, but it does make the smarter than the average republican.

Not a republicans are white supremacists, but all white supremacists are republicans.

You don't know that. You're just parroting lies to smear your opponent.

I know a large number of Republicans that don't care for Trump as well. Does that make them White Supremacists?

No, but it does make the smarter than the average republican.

Not a republicans are white supremacists, but all white supremacists are republicans.

You don't know that. You're just parroting lies to smear your opponent.

Lol, wrong. I do know that. I live in Kansas, and racists are a dime a dozen here. Every last one of them is a gun-toting, anti-abortion, tRump-loving conservative.

A scholarly discussion of the beliefs of white supremacism is obviously not going to happen with you.

A scholarly discussion of the beliefs of white supremacism?

Lmao!!!

Honesty isn't your thing. When truth doesn't fit the narrative, just lie, right? Yes, you are a compulsive liar and, frankly, an idiot.

 

[jknowgood]

STILL trying to sell this swill trying to put anti-Jew violence on the LEFT?

What an asshole.

You guys hate anyone that disagrees with you. You are the party of complete hate.

We hate liars. That is what you folks are when you twist reality to fit a bad guy into the opposition political party. How pathetic is that?

Oh bull, Obama lied to you on a daily basis.

 

[bodecea]

I wanted to show that anyone can classify anything but it doesn't make it right. He's a Nutcase, insane, a homicidal manica, a Religious Murderous Nutcase. He's a criminal, neither right nor left. It kind of hurts when he's placed in with your bunch, doesn't it. Well, he's not in your case since I don't imagine you are going around shooting up churches and synagogues and schools and the like.

His manifesto didn't really touch on right-left issues. That's why I asked as to how you had made the determination that he's "right wing".

Adolf Hitler was probably the biggest white supremacist in world history and his policies are much closer to those of the modern left than the modern right.

Hitler used Nationalism to get where he wanted to be. It was a means to an end. His end was to become a Dictator. Until he became a Dictator, Germany actually was a better place that before. It was a real hell hole before that. But after he seized control (he wasn't elected into power) that's when he ceased to be a Nationalist and threw out any form of Social or any other form of Government that made any sense. he actually came from the Fascist side which is right wing. He used Mussolinis book, all but the last chapter, to get into power. But he didn't read the last chapter as it hadn't been written yet. If you care to check, White Supremacy is Nationalist in it's twisted fashion and that's not Left. It's off the scale right. You don't want to hear this because it means that there are worse things in the political spectrum than you care to admit. Well, don't admit it, that's up to you. But you won't change it either.

Fascism is a philosophy and practice of governance and economics that is most decidedly similar to the modern American left. Nationalism is neither left wing nor right wing. Fidel Castro was a nationalist. Are you saying he's "right wing"?

Uncle Fidel was a Dictator, Hitler was a Dictator, Stalin was a Dictator, Maduro is a Dictator, Mussolini was a Dictator. All of them used different paths to get there. Stalin, Fidel and Maduro used Communism to get to where they could be dictators which is from the left. Hitler and Mussolini used Fascism (invented by Mussolini) to become dictators from the right. I suggest you read up on Marco from Spain. It's interesting reading. A classic example of Fascist versus Communist (also called Socialist) battle that the Fascists actually won and continued in power for the next 60 years. Marco read the last chapter of the Mussolini Fascist handbook and never made the move to Dictator status. And he was about as right wing as anyone can get.

And they ALL ran under the banner of socialism and despised free-market capitalism, which is the pillar of the modern American right. Fascism is a leftist ideology.

No...socialism is a leftist ideology. Fascism is its opposite as a rightist ideology.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I wanted to show that anyone can classify anything but it doesn't make it right. He's a Nutcase, insane, a homicidal manica, a Religious Murderous Nutcase. He's a criminal, neither right nor left. It kind of hurts when he's placed in with your bunch, doesn't it. Well, he's not in your case since I don't imagine you are going around shooting up churches and synagogues and schools and the like.

His manifesto didn't really touch on right-left issues. That's why I asked as to how you had made the determination that he's "right wing".

Adolf Hitler was probably the biggest white supremacist in world history and his policies are much closer to those of the modern left than the modern right.

Hitler used Nationalism to get where he wanted to be. It was a means to an end. His end was to become a Dictator. Until he became a Dictator, Germany actually was a better place that before. It was a real hell hole before that. But after he seized control (he wasn't elected into power) that's when he ceased to be a Nationalist and threw out any form of Social or any other form of Government that made any sense. he actually came from the Fascist side which is right wing. He used Mussolinis book, all but the last chapter, to get into power. But he didn't read the last chapter as it hadn't been written yet. If you care to check, White Supremacy is Nationalist in it's twisted fashion and that's not Left. It's off the scale right. You don't want to hear this because it means that there are worse things in the political spectrum than you care to admit. Well, don't admit it, that's up to you. But you won't change it either.

Fascism is a philosophy and practice of governance and economics that is most decidedly similar to the modern American left. Nationalism is neither left wing nor right wing. Fidel Castro was a nationalist. Are you saying he's "right wing"?

Uncle Fidel was a Dictator, Hitler was a Dictator, Stalin was a Dictator, Maduro is a Dictator, Mussolini was a Dictator. All of them used different paths to get there. Stalin, Fidel and Maduro used Communism to get to where they could be dictators which is from the left. Hitler and Mussolini used Fascism (invented by Mussolini) to become dictators from the right. I suggest you read up on Marco from Spain. It's interesting reading. A classic example of Fascist versus Communist (also called Socialist) battle that the Fascists actually won and continued in power for the next 60 years. Marco read the last chapter of the Mussolini Fascist handbook and never made the move to Dictator status. And he was about as right wing as anyone can get.

And they ALL ran under the banner of socialism and despised free-market capitalism, which is the pillar of the modern American right. Fascism is a leftist ideology.

Until you read up on Marco of Spain, you will continue to be an uneducated ignorant person. But there is a cure for ignorance and that is learning. If you decide to stay ignorant and keep spouting off then you entered the realm of stupidity and there is no medicine or cure for that.

 

[K9Buck]

National socialism and fascism are much closer to modern left-wing ideology than they are to modern, right-wing ideology.

So you know, Fascism is a form of ultranationalism which is radical right.

Why is nationalism considered a trait of fascism? By that standard, Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln were "fascists".

TN Harley would agree with you there.

There are all these self-proclaimed "experts" here on fascism that have obviously never actually read the tenets of fascism as written by the original fascists.

http://www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html

8. Outside the State there can be neither individuals nor groups (political parties, associations, syndicates, classes). Therefore Fascism is opposed to Socialism, which confines the movement of history within the class struggle and ignores the unity of classes established in one economic and moral reality in the State; and analogously it is opposed to class syndicalism. . . .

nuff said.

Fascism entails government control of every facet of society including the elimination of a free-market economy in favor of an economy managed by government. The modern American right is absolutely and undeniably the biggest supporter of free-market capitalism. The President of the U.S. is the biggest capitalist to ever occupy the White House.

It's the modern left that wants the government to control the nation's healthcare, education and guarantee a "living wage". It's the modern left that despises capitalism.

Yes, fascism is an ideology of the left.

 

[K9Buck]

His manifesto didn't really touch on right-left issues. That's why I asked as to how you had made the determination that he's "right wing".

Adolf Hitler was probably the biggest white supremacist in world history and his policies are much closer to those of the modern left than the modern right.

Hitler used Nationalism to get where he wanted to be. It was a means to an end. His end was to become a Dictator. Until he became a Dictator, Germany actually was a better place that before. It was a real hell hole before that. But after he seized control (he wasn't elected into power) that's when he ceased to be a Nationalist and threw out any form of Social or any other form of Government that made any sense. he actually came from the Fascist side which is right wing. He used Mussolinis book, all but the last chapter, to get into power. But he didn't read the last chapter as it hadn't been written yet. If you care to check, White Supremacy is Nationalist in it's twisted fashion and that's not Left. It's off the scale right. You don't want to hear this because it means that there are worse things in the political spectrum than you care to admit. Well, don't admit it, that's up to you. But you won't change it either.

Fascism is a philosophy and practice of governance and economics that is most decidedly similar to the modern American left. Nationalism is neither left wing nor right wing. Fidel Castro was a nationalist. Are you saying he's "right wing"?

Uncle Fidel was a Dictator, Hitler was a Dictator, Stalin was a Dictator, Maduro is a Dictator, Mussolini was a Dictator. All of them used different paths to get there. Stalin, Fidel and Maduro used Communism to get to where they could be dictators which is from the left. Hitler and Mussolini used Fascism (invented by Mussolini) to become dictators from the right. I suggest you read up on Marco from Spain. It's interesting reading. A classic example of Fascist versus Communist (also called Socialist) battle that the Fascists actually won and continued in power for the next 60 years. Marco read the last chapter of the Mussolini Fascist handbook and never made the move to Dictator status. And he was about as right wing as anyone can get.

And they ALL ran under the banner of socialism and despised free-market capitalism, which is the pillar of the modern American right. Fascism is a leftist ideology.

Until you read up on Marco of Spain, you will continue to be an uneducated ignorant person. But there is a cure for ignorance and that is learning. If you decide to stay ignorant and keep spouting off then you entered the realm of stupidity and there is no medicine or cure for that.

You're telling me to read someone else's argument because you're too fucking stupid to make it yourself.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

So you know, Fascism is a form of ultranationalism which is radical right.

Why is nationalism considered a trait of fascism? By that standard, Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln were "fascists".

TN Harley would agree with you there.

There are all these self-proclaimed "experts" here on fascism that have obviously never actually read the tenets of fascism as written by the original fascists.

http://www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html

8. Outside the State there can be neither individuals nor groups (political parties, associations, syndicates, classes). Therefore Fascism is opposed to Socialism, which confines the movement of history within the class struggle and ignores the unity of classes established in one economic and moral reality in the State; and analogously it is opposed to class syndicalism. . . .

nuff said.

Fascism entails government control of every facet of society including the elimination of a free-market economy in favor of an economy managed by government. The modern American right is absolutely and undeniably the biggest supporter of free-market capitalism. The President of the U.S. is the biggest capitalist to ever occupy the White House.

It's the modern left that wants the government to control the nation's healthcare, education and guarantee a "living wage". It's the modern left that despises capitalism.

Yes, fascism is an ideology of the left.

Read up on Marco and Spain. Get a real shocker. Fascism is a 20th century invention in response to offset Socialism. The War of Spain in the 30s will show you what the real Communism (also sometimes called socialism) and Fascism is all about and why they were directly fighting each other. Read up on it and stop being stupid.

 

[K9Buck]

His manifesto didn't really touch on right-left issues. That's why I asked as to how you had made the determination that he's "right wing".

Adolf Hitler was probably the biggest white supremacist in world history and his policies are much closer to those of the modern left than the modern right.

Hitler used Nationalism to get where he wanted to be. It was a means to an end. His end was to become a Dictator. Until he became a Dictator, Germany actually was a better place that before. It was a real hell hole before that. But after he seized control (he wasn't elected into power) that's when he ceased to be a Nationalist and threw out any form of Social or any other form of Government that made any sense. he actually came from the Fascist side which is right wing. He used Mussolinis book, all but the last chapter, to get into power. But he didn't read the last chapter as it hadn't been written yet. If you care to check, White Supremacy is Nationalist in it's twisted fashion and that's not Left. It's off the scale right. You don't want to hear this because it means that there are worse things in the political spectrum than you care to admit. Well, don't admit it, that's up to you. But you won't change it either.

Fascism is a philosophy and practice of governance and economics that is most decidedly similar to the modern American left. Nationalism is neither left wing nor right wing. Fidel Castro was a nationalist. Are you saying he's "right wing"?

Uncle Fidel was a Dictator, Hitler was a Dictator, Stalin was a Dictator, Maduro is a Dictator, Mussolini was a Dictator. All of them used different paths to get there. Stalin, Fidel and Maduro used Communism to get to where they could be dictators which is from the left. Hitler and Mussolini used Fascism (invented by Mussolini) to become dictators from the right. I suggest you read up on Marco from Spain. It's interesting reading. A classic example of Fascist versus Communist (also called Socialist) battle that the Fascists actually won and continued in power for the next 60 years. Marco read the last chapter of the Mussolini Fascist handbook and never made the move to Dictator status. And he was about as right wing as anyone can get.

And they ALL ran under the banner of socialism and despised free-market capitalism, which is the pillar of the modern American right. Fascism is a leftist ideology.

No...socialism is a leftist ideology. Fascism is its opposite as a rightist ideology.

Compare and contrast fascism with the policies being advocated by the modern, American right and tell me how they match up.

 

[K9Buck]

Why is nationalism considered a trait of fascism? By that standard, Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln were "fascists".

TN Harley would agree with you there.

There are all these self-proclaimed "experts" here on fascism that have obviously never actually read the tenets of fascism as written by the original fascists.

http://www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html

8. Outside the State there can be neither individuals nor groups (political parties, associations, syndicates, classes). Therefore Fascism is opposed to Socialism, which confines the movement of history within the class struggle and ignores the unity of classes established in one economic and moral reality in the State; and analogously it is opposed to class syndicalism. . . .

nuff said.

Fascism entails government control of every facet of society including the elimination of a free-market economy in favor of an economy managed by government. The modern American right is absolutely and undeniably the biggest supporter of free-market capitalism. The President of the U.S. is the biggest capitalist to ever occupy the White House.

It's the modern left that wants the government to control the nation's healthcare, education and guarantee a "living wage". It's the modern left that despises capitalism.

Yes, fascism is an ideology of the left.

Read up on Marco and Spain. Get a real shocker. Fascism is a 20th century invention in response to offset Socialism. The War of Spain in the 30s will show you what the real Communism (also sometimes called socialism) and Fascism is all about and why they were directly fighting each other. Read up on it and stop being stupid.

Again, you're running from the argument because you can't make it.

 

[mudwhistle]

Police are investigating a manifesto posted online by the suspect in a San Diego synagogue shooting that left one dead and several others injured. Stating he hated Jews, President Trump and all conservatives (are we sure he is NOT a white, Muslim convert???)

John T. Earnest, 19, was taken into custody without incident following the shooting at the Chabad of Poway Jewish congregation around 11.30am PT on Saturday, according to the San Diego County Sheriff's Department.

Killed in the attack was Lori Gilbert-Kaye, 60, according to a family friend.

The three injured victims were identified as: Rabbi Yisroel Goldstein, who was shot in the fingers; an eight-year-old girl visiting from Israel; and the girl's 34-year-old uncle Almog Peretz, also visiting from Israel.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...

I could wish the scumbags at the DNC realize they've created this monster with their hate filled narrative. The shooting of Republican.Scalise at the sports field. The violent attacks of antifa on conservatives.

All of this is in the spirit of liberalism. I said, "I could wish." But, it'll never happen. Liberals are too narcissistic, too obtuse, too reprobate to ever admit anything.....just look to the Surrender Monkey!

https://infostormer.com/san-diego-synagogue-shooter-john-earnests-full-manifesto/

Hated Jews, Trump, and conservatives...... so the Left says he's a rightwinger.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Hitler used Nationalism to get where he wanted to be. It was a means to an end. His end was to become a Dictator. Until he became a Dictator, Germany actually was a better place that before. It was a real hell hole before that. But after he seized control (he wasn't elected into power) that's when he ceased to be a Nationalist and threw out any form of Social or any other form of Government that made any sense. he actually came from the Fascist side which is right wing. He used Mussolinis book, all but the last chapter, to get into power. But he didn't read the last chapter as it hadn't been written yet. If you care to check, White Supremacy is Nationalist in it's twisted fashion and that's not Left. It's off the scale right. You don't want to hear this because it means that there are worse things in the political spectrum than you care to admit. Well, don't admit it, that's up to you. But you won't change it either.

Fascism is a philosophy and practice of governance and economics that is most decidedly similar to the modern American left. Nationalism is neither left wing nor right wing. Fidel Castro was a nationalist. Are you saying he's "right wing"?

Uncle Fidel was a Dictator, Hitler was a Dictator, Stalin was a Dictator, Maduro is a Dictator, Mussolini was a Dictator. All of them used different paths to get there. Stalin, Fidel and Maduro used Communism to get to where they could be dictators which is from the left. Hitler and Mussolini used Fascism (invented by Mussolini) to become dictators from the right. I suggest you read up on Marco from Spain. It's interesting reading. A classic example of Fascist versus Communist (also called Socialist) battle that the Fascists actually won and continued in power for the next 60 years. Marco read the last chapter of the Mussolini Fascist handbook and never made the move to Dictator status. And he was about as right wing as anyone can get.

And they ALL ran under the banner of socialism and despised free-market capitalism, which is the pillar of the modern American right. Fascism is a leftist ideology.

Until you read up on Marco of Spain, you will continue to be an uneducated ignorant person. But there is a cure for ignorance and that is learning. If you decide to stay ignorant and keep spouting off then you entered the realm of stupidity and there is no medicine or cure for that.

You're telling me to read someone else's argument because you're too fucking stupid to make it yourself.

I am telling you to read up on REAL history that happened. It's not a personal opinion, it's history. And YOU are just making stupid shit up when there is some very good reading about REAL history at your disposal. I used Marco from Spain as an example because he's the ONLY successful Fascist in the history of the world. And part of Marcos time is during my lifetime and experience. Do some research of real history. It might change your outlook. But I warn you, it will also lead to some information not your liking about Hilter and Mussolini but you will be thrilled about the information about Stalin.

 

[mudwhistle]

Guys like Pogo ignorantly believe that every white supremacist is a product of the modern right. The reality is much different. I've looked into some of these groups and what I've found is that there are white supremacists that support many of the ideals espoused by the modern left with regard to governance and economics. In fact, in a recent look I took at StormFront ...

Et voilà. You cretins always self-identify. Case closed.

Yeah, you ignore everything he says except what you think you can use. "HE LOOKED AT STORM FRONT! !! "

Truth is the WASHINGTON COMPOST is the leftist version of storm front. So is CNN and MSNBC now.

 

[Crepitus]

Do the research, as I have, and then show me the results. The white supremacists, above all else, HATE Jews. They view Trump as a traitor. Like I said, do the research.

I know a large number of Republicans that don't care for Trump as well. Does that make them White Supremacists?

No, but it does make the smarter than the average republican.

Not a republicans are white supremacists, but all white supremacists are republicans.

You don't know that. You're just parroting lies to smear your opponent.

Do the research, as I have, and then show me the results. The white supremacists, above all else, HATE Jews. They view Trump as a traitor. Like I said, do the research.

I know a large number of Republicans that don't care for Trump as well. Does that make them White Supremacists?

No, but it does make the smarter than the average republican.

Not a republicans are white supremacists, but all white supremacists are republicans.

You don't know that. You're just parroting lies to smear your opponent.

Lol, wrong. I do know that. I live in Kansas, and racists are a dime a dozen here. Every last one of them is a gun-toting, anti-abortion, tRump-loving conservative.

I thought that was a requirement for admission to citizenship in Kansas. I hear, next week they are going to set up check points and all people that enter there must stop, be issued guns and pass an entrance exam to live there. Not to worry if you fail the test, you get to keep the guns.

Not quite that bad yet, especially here in the largest city, but definitely trending that way.

 

[Crepitus]

No, but it does make the smarter than the average republican.

Not a republicans are white supremacists, but all white supremacists are republicans.

You don't know that. You're just parroting lies to smear your opponent.

No, but it does make the smarter than the average republican.

Not a republicans are white supremacists, but all white supremacists are republicans.

You don't know that. You're just parroting lies to smear your opponent.

Lol, wrong. I do know that. I live in Kansas, and racists are a dime a dozen here. Every last one of them is a gun-toting, anti-abortion, tRump-loving conservative.

A scholarly discussion of the beliefs of white supremacism is obviously not going to happen with you.

A scholarly discussion of the beliefs of white supremacism?

Lmao!!!

Honesty isn't your thing. When truth doesn't fit the narrative, just lie, right? Yes, you are a compulsive liar and, frankly, an idiot.

Lol, that's right, don't bother to disagree with me. Just call me stupid.

Standard republican retreat.

 

[K9Buck]

Guys like Pogo ignorantly believe that every white supremacist is a product of the modern right. The reality is much different. I've looked into some of these groups and what I've found is that there are white supremacists that support many of the ideals espoused by the modern left with regard to governance and economics. In fact, in a recent look I took at StormFront ...

Et voilà. You cretins always self-identify. Case closed.

Yeah, you ignore everything he says except what you think you can use. "HE LOOKED AT STORM FRONT! !! "

Truth is the WASHINGTON COMPOST is the leftist version of storm front. So is CNN and MSNBC now.

Guys like Pogo ignorantly believe that every white supremacist is a product of the modern right. The reality is much different. I've looked into some of these groups and what I've found is that there are white supremacists that support many of the ideals espoused by the modern left with regard to governance and economics. In fact, in a recent look I took at StormFront ...

Et voilà. You cretins always self-identify. Case closed.

Yeah, you ignore everything he says except what you think you can use. "HE LOOKED AT STORM FRONT! !! "

Truth is the WASHINGTON COMPOST is the leftist version of storm front. So is CNN and MSNBC now.

I looked at Stormfront to try and figure out what makes them tick. They are very united in some beliefs but diverse in others, particularly on ideologies of governance and economics.

 

[Moonglow]

So you know, Fascism is a form of ultranationalism which is radical right.

Why is nationalism considered a trait of fascism? By that standard, Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln were "fascists".

TN Harley would agree with you there.

There are all these self-proclaimed "experts" here on fascism that have obviously never actually read the tenets of fascism as written by the original fascists.

http://www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html

8. Outside the State there can be neither individuals nor groups (political parties, associations, syndicates, classes). Therefore Fascism is opposed to Socialism, which confines the movement of history within the class struggle and ignores the unity of classes established in one economic and moral reality in the State; and analogously it is opposed to class syndicalism. . . .

nuff said.

Fascism entails government control of every facet of society including the elimination of a free-market economy in favor of an economy managed by government. The modern American right is absolutely and undeniably the biggest supporter of free-market capitalism. The President of the U.S. is the biggest capitalist to ever occupy the White House.

It's the modern left that wants the government to control the nation's healthcare, education and guarantee a "living wage". It's the modern left that despises capitalism.

Yes, fascism is an ideology of the left.

There is no such thing as free market capitalism. Example one. I can't grow hemp even though it is not illegal. Each state gives out licenses to grow a legal weed, yet in my state only two licenses are given. Govt. controlled monopoly is what we have here...

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Hitler used Nationalism to get where he wanted to be. It was a means to an end. His end was to become a Dictator. Until he became a Dictator, Germany actually was a better place that before. It was a real hell hole before that. But after he seized control (he wasn't elected into power) that's when he ceased to be a Nationalist and threw out any form of Social or any other form of Government that made any sense. he actually came from the Fascist side which is right wing. He used Mussolinis book, all but the last chapter, to get into power. But he didn't read the last chapter as it hadn't been written yet. If you care to check, White Supremacy is Nationalist in it's twisted fashion and that's not Left. It's off the scale right. You don't want to hear this because it means that there are worse things in the political spectrum than you care to admit. Well, don't admit it, that's up to you. But you won't change it either.

Fascism is a philosophy and practice of governance and economics that is most decidedly similar to the modern American left. Nationalism is neither left wing nor right wing. Fidel Castro was a nationalist. Are you saying he's "right wing"?

Uncle Fidel was a Dictator, Hitler was a Dictator, Stalin was a Dictator, Maduro is a Dictator, Mussolini was a Dictator. All of them used different paths to get there. Stalin, Fidel and Maduro used Communism to get to where they could be dictators which is from the left. Hitler and Mussolini used Fascism (invented by Mussolini) to become dictators from the right. I suggest you read up on Marco from Spain. It's interesting reading. A classic example of Fascist versus Communist (also called Socialist) battle that the Fascists actually won and continued in power for the next 60 years. Marco read the last chapter of the Mussolini Fascist handbook and never made the move to Dictator status. And he was about as right wing as anyone can get.

And they ALL ran under the banner of socialism and despised free-market capitalism, which is the pillar of the modern American right. Fascism is a leftist ideology.

No...socialism is a leftist ideology. Fascism is its opposite as a rightist ideology.

Compare and contrast fascism with the policies being advocated by the modern, American right and tell me how they match up.

I'll reprint this once again. Read it carefully and see if it applies to any world leader in power today.

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism

by Lawrence Britt

Spring 2003


The 14 characteristics are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
   Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
   
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
   Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
   
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
   The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
   
4. Supremacy of the Military
   Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
   
5. Rampant Sexism
   The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
   
6. Controlled Mass Media
   Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
   
7. Obsession with National Security
   Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
   
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
   Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
   
9. Corporate Power is Protected
   The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
   
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
    
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
    
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
    
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
    
14. Fraudulent Elections
    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Now, take a very long and careful look at the US right now. What keeps us from becoming a full blown Fascist State is we have the Constitution of the United States that the other countries didn't have. And we need to make sure we keep that document intact. And I mean all of it, not just the parts we agree with while trying to discard the parts we disagree with.

 

[K9Buck]

You don't know that. You're just parroting lies to smear your opponent.

You don't know that. You're just parroting lies to smear your opponent.

Lol, wrong. I do know that. I live in Kansas, and racists are a dime a dozen here. Every last one of them is a gun-toting, anti-abortion, tRump-loving conservative.

A scholarly discussion of the beliefs of white supremacism is obviously not going to happen with you.

A scholarly discussion of the beliefs of white supremacism?

Lmao!!!

Honesty isn't your thing. When truth doesn't fit the narrative, just lie, right? Yes, you are a compulsive liar and, frankly, an idiot.

Lol, that's right, don't bother to disagree with me. Just call me stupid.

Standard republican retreat.

I already disagreed with you. You said all white supremacists think exactly alike. I said you were wrong and explained how. You didn't like the truth and went into twat mode.

 

[K9Buck]

Why is nationalism considered a trait of fascism? By that standard, Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln were "fascists".

TN Harley would agree with you there.

There are all these self-proclaimed "experts" here on fascism that have obviously never actually read the tenets of fascism as written by the original fascists.

http://www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html

8. Outside the State there can be neither individuals nor groups (political parties, associations, syndicates, classes). Therefore Fascism is opposed to Socialism, which confines the movement of history within the class struggle and ignores the unity of classes established in one economic and moral reality in the State; and analogously it is opposed to class syndicalism. . . .

nuff said.

Fascism entails government control of every facet of society including the elimination of a free-market economy in favor of an economy managed by government. The modern American right is absolutely and undeniably the biggest supporter of free-market capitalism. The President of the U.S. is the biggest capitalist to ever occupy the White House.

It's the modern left that wants the government to control the nation's healthcare, education and guarantee a "living wage". It's the modern left that despises capitalism.

Yes, fascism is an ideology of the left.

There is no such thing as free market capitalism. Example one. I can't grow hemp even though it is not illegal. Each state gives out licenses to grow a legal weed, yet in my state only two licenses are given. Govt. controlled monopoly is what we have here...

There's a reason FDR so admired Benito Mussolini and his fascist ideals. Was FDR "right wing" too?