California raises minimum wage to $10 an hour

[kidrocks]

Evidently you have a problem with people demonizing companies but... you have no problem demonizing people on minimum wage raising a family. Good job company man.

First, the minimum wage is not, nor ever has been, meant to "raise a family".

Second, since such a large percentage of people who work minimum wage are teenage kids, please describe precisely how it makes sense in a market economy to pay these people as much as someone who is supposedly "raising a family".

Looking forward to this.

Full disclosure: Not expecting a straight answer.

Well the minimum wage may not, nor ever has been, meant to "raise a family" but I know many proud family's whom both the mother and father work on minimum wages, combined, that would bring in $20 an hour, plus one of the sons works and contributes his minimum wage so, that combined, makes a possible $30 an hour income for the whole family

Not too shabby eh kid?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Evidently you have a problem with people demonizing companies but... you have no problem demonizing people on minimum wage raising a family. Good job company man.

First, the minimum wage is not, nor ever has been, meant to "raise a family".

Second, since such a large percentage of people who work minimum wage are teenage kids, please describe precisely how it makes sense in a market economy to pay these people as much as someone who is supposedly "raising a family".

Looking forward to this.

Full disclosure: Not expecting a straight answer.

Well the minimum wage may not, nor ever has been, meant to "raise a family" but I know many proud family's whom both the mother and father work on minimum wages, combined, that would bring in $20 an hour, plus one of the sons works and contributes his minimum wage so, that combined, makes a possible $30 an hour income for the whole family

Not too shabby eh kid?

Sure. it's great. If you take dates to Carls Jr.

 

[KissMy]

Oh, sure. Just look at all the prosperity we have going on here.......

It's too bad if you don't have what it takes to make it in America.

Yes, if you need government to negotiate your wages for you, you're a loser.

If you need government bailouts, guaranteed loans, tax loophole subsidies, don't pay same rate payroll tax, lobby for government loopholes, contracts, - you're a lowlife cheating loser.

 

[kaz]

It's too bad if you don't have what it takes to make it in America.

Yes, if you need government to negotiate your wages for you, you're a loser.

If you need government bailouts, guaranteed loans, tax loophole subsidies, don't pay same rate payroll tax, lobby for government loopholes, contracts, - you're a lowlife cheating loser.

I'm a libertarian, I oppose all that. Free markets means consumer freedom, it also means businesses live (or die) with the mistakes they make. Government should not help them to your point, but neither should it hinder them which is being done even more than the points you made to "help" them.

 

[kidrocks]

I think we are not going to solve anything if we keep demonizing companies for making money.
If people are trying to raise a family of 8 on minimum wage that is a problem right there.
Minimum wage jobs are for kids.Kids going to school not raising a family and saddled with a mortgage.

Evidently you have a problem with people demonizing companies but... you have no problem demonizing people on minimum wage raising a family. Good job company man.

Well, it's not the government's job to try and fix people's shitty life choices. YOu demonize success, and advocate poor choices. It's the LOLberal way.

Well it's certainly not the governments job to only help the rich get richer. But they do.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Evidently you have a problem with people demonizing companies but... you have no problem demonizing people on minimum wage raising a family. Good job company man.

Well, it's not the government's job to try and fix people's shitty life choices. YOu demonize success, and advocate poor choices. It's the LOLberal way.

Well it's certainly not the governments job to only help the rich get richer. But they do.

And?

 

[kidrocks]

Well, it's not the government's job to try and fix people's shitty life choices. YOu demonize success, and advocate poor choices. It's the LOLberal way.

Well it's certainly not the governments job to only help the rich get richer. But they do.

And?

Quit your bitching.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Sure thing. Bring me back a burger from Carls, son.

 

[kidrocks]

Sure thing. Bring me back a burger from Carls, son.

Would you like fries with that?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

I didn't think you could afford them. So I didn't ask.

 

[kidrocks]

I didn't think you could afford them. So I didn't ask.

I'm not paying for your burger you shmuck, you are. Typical elitist freeloader though, trying to take advantage of a kid.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Sure thing. Bring me back a burger from Carls, son.

Would you like fries with that?

Do you and your dates go to see a .99 cent flick after a three course at Carl's?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Sure thing. Bring me back a burger from Carls, son.

Would you like fries with that?

Do you and your dates go to see a .99 cent flick after a three course at Carl's?

Hey, man. I love the chinatown theater. For a few bucks you can watch three kung fu movies (or at least thats how it used to go, havent been in ages).

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Would you like fries with that?

Do you and your dates go to see a .99 cent flick after a three course at Carl's?

Hey, man. I love the chinatown theater. For a few bucks you can watch three kung fu movies (or at least thats how it used to go, havent been in ages).

That sounds pretty cool.

 

[KissMy]

Yes, if you need government to negotiate your wages for you, you're a loser.

If you need government bailouts, guaranteed loans, tax loophole subsidies, don't pay same rate payroll tax, lobby for government loopholes, contracts, - you're a lowlife cheating loser.

I'm a libertarian, I oppose all that. Free markets means consumer freedom, it also means businesses live (or die) with the mistakes they make. Government should not help them to your point, but neither should it hinder them which is being done even more than the points you made to "help" them.

Government only hinders the little guy, not big corporation that lobby it. They get preferential treatment & subsidies.

Take the EPA superfund cleanup for instance. Monsanto corp got rich off of fat government tit contracts while pocketing big money by improperly disposing of toxic chemicals polluting our land & water more than any other business. When citizens who were poisoned & government began to come after them, they lobbied & got presidential candidate George Romney's son Mitt Romney to get them out of paying for cleanup. The cleanup bill would have bankrupted Monsanto. So Romney took big money & kept government at bay & told Monsanto the solution to protect their wealth & good assets was to create a bad company called Solutia & spin it off. So Monsanto did that & Solutia took on all of Monsanto's toxic chemical business.

Once Solutia was firmly established, the government went after Solutia & bankrupted them. Tax payers got stuck with their cleanup bill (subsidizing Monsanto). Monsanto took all that protected money & bought up genetic seed companies like DeKalb seed & many others in order to corner the market on all the seed that grows the food everyone of us eats to live. If a small company polluted, government would have eliminated them. The playing field is steeply tilted to Big companies who buy politicians. Yet Republicans worship this fascist socialist non-free market practice of corrupted cronies picking winners & losers.

I'll bet you opposed this corruption by voting for Mitt Romney

 

[kaz]

If you need government bailouts, guaranteed loans, tax loophole subsidies, don't pay same rate payroll tax, lobby for government loopholes, contracts, - you're a lowlife cheating loser.

I'm a libertarian, I oppose all that. Free markets means consumer freedom, it also means businesses live (or die) with the mistakes they make. Government should not help them to your point, but neither should it hinder them which is being done even more than the points you made to "help" them.

Government only hinders the little guy, not big corporation that lobby it

Well, we know you're not a business owner. Keeping up with government crap is both expensive and a full time job even for a small business. The dragon is very hungry.

Most of what the government does to hinder the little guy are things that are done to businesses first, and through the process government removes choice from consumers.

Very little is done directly to consumers.

 

[KissMy]

I'm a libertarian, I oppose all that. Free markets means consumer freedom, it also means businesses live (or die) with the mistakes they make. Government should not help them to your point, but neither should it hinder them which is being done even more than the points you made to "help" them.

Government only hinders the little guy, not big corporation that lobby it

Well, we know you're not a business owner. Keeping up with government crap is both expensive and a full time job even for a small business. The dragon is very hungry.

Most of what the government does to hinder the little guy are things that are done to businesses first, and through the process government removes choice from consumers.

Very little is done directly to consumers.

You clearly are not a business owner because you have no clue. I however am a business owner & employer. Big business loves regulations, because they impact the small business harder than big ones. Keeping up with government crap harder on small business & a breeze for big business who can hire a dedicated person to take care of that crap & rubber stamp it. A small businessman has to do it all on his own keeping him from focusing on business. Plus big business can lobby around regs or find loopholes that small business can't.

Adam Smith Free Markets: "More regulation means that fewer upstarts can enter the market and any that do are hobbled by that regulation. The more regulation the more the current large companies can continue to be capitalist without having to worry about their practices being tempered by that market competition.

Which is, as I say, why large companies just love regulation. The problem here is of course that it's also large companies that do all the lobbying. Further, that it's the small and new companies that do most of the innovation and nearly all of the job creation. Meaning, in the end, that it's precisely because large companies so like regulation that we should have less of it."

 

[kaz]

Government only hinders the little guy, not big corporation that lobby it

Well, we know you're not a business owner. Keeping up with government crap is both expensive and a full time job even for a small business. The dragon is very hungry.

Most of what the government does to hinder the little guy are things that are done to businesses first, and through the process government removes choice from consumers.

Very little is done directly to consumers.

You clearly are not a business owner because you have no clue. I however am a business owner & employer

Clearly you're not, but thanks for playing.

 

[Lovebears65]

Bravo California! Bravo Governor Jerry Brown!




California signs law raising minimum wage to $10/hour by 2016 - NBC News.com

California has become the first state in the nation to commit to raising the minimum wage to $10 per hour, although the increase will take place gradually until 2016 under a bill signed into law by Democratic Governor Jerry Brown on Wednesday.

and now every business will raise their prices for stuff you buy.. But if you think that is a good thing then you are stupid

 

[Lovebears65]

meanwhile Unemployment in the State is at 8.9%....im sure that will help getting people hired.....

It will eventually, as the workers spend their their newfound cash around at restaurants, theatres, supermarkets, 7/11's, ballparks, malls, Wal Mart, K-Mart, Targets, etc, etc, etc. Got it?

and all the prices in those places will ALSO rise to cover the overhead of the business you dimwit