Can socialists in this country explain how taxing American corporations/companies more is good?

[frigidweirdo]

Go ahead and explain why that is a good thing for the country.

Keep in mind folks that the American socialists are by far the dumbest people on the planet.

Let us hear why American companies should be taxed more and why that is a good thing.

I'm not a Socialist.

I do believe in socialist healthcare, police force, army, education, but I don't believe in socialism when it comes to normal trading business and the like.

However, I can explain why companies should be paying higher tax.

[...]

Businesses should pay their way. It should be illegal for governments to incentivize businesses to move to their area with a massive pay check, this simply means the US has become many businesses rather one that works together for the benefit of the people, instead it works for the benefit of the rich and nothing else.

There is no such thing as Socialism in healthcare, police force, military or education. People CHOSE to tax themselves for those services.

Your ignorance about corporate taxes is not at all surprising. Far left Progressives are always looking for someone else to pay their way. They know nothing of personal responsibility.

PLEASE, in specific detail, please tell us who you believe pays corporate and business taxes. Would you do that for us please?

Yes they do choose to tax themselves for those services. And they could choose to tax themselves for the services in food, products etc. That's actually what socialism IS.

My ignorance of corporate taxes. If I'm so ignorant, why didn't you tell me where I was ignorant?

Funny how I said taxes should be fair, then all of a sudden you're labeling me a "Far left Progressive" and deciding I don't like personal responsibility.

Basically you've not back up that I'm ignorant then you're on the attack making stuff up about me.

All in all your post is a complete pile of shit.

 

[Markle]

When we stopped taxing corporations and the wealthy, we stopped doing things as a nation

No more moon shots, instead of building an interstate highway system, we let our roads and bridges go to hell

We complain about helping our poor and spending money on education and healthcare

We have instituted austerity to ensure more wealth at the top

Corporations and the wealthy already pay more than the half that don't pay income taxes do combined. That's easy. One taxpayer alone pays more than the half that pay nothing combined.

As they should

You tax where the money is and that is where the money is. They pay most of the income taxes because they consume most of the income and wealth.....what a concept

That's the moral code of a thief. A reported once asked John Dillinger why he robbed banks. His response: "that's where the money is."

Rich people consume wealth because they earn it.

Explain this

Wealth is being transferred from the poor and middle class to the rich because we're no longer enforcing our anti-trust laws that allow them to rule the market place and the unions are losing power. The workers deserve a say in the work they do...

If the poor have no wealth, how is something that doesn't exist...get transferred to someone else?

Unless the worker has an ownership interest, how do they deserve a say in the work they do? If a worker applies for a job, and is hired, they had their say in the work they do. Have they not?

More of that "transfer" of wealth has happened during the administration of Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama, has it not? So how can that be?

See Detroit with regard to the good done by unions.

Do you know why they stock market has increased so drastically? I'll post a chart for you but my bet is it will go over your head.

St. Louis Adjusted Monetary Base

 

[francoHFW]

Obsessing on the fed income tax is brainwashed bs

The one tax graph you really need to know

If you include fees, EVERYONE pays 20-30% to the government. Pub dupes!

IF, IF a frog had wings, it wouldn't keep busting its behind every time it hit the ground.

Face it, FORTY SEVEN PERCENT of workers pay NO INCOME TAX. No, if, and's or but's.

NO, that's fed income tax only. And it's irrelevant when you look at state and local. Fees only matter to the poor...

The topic IS income taxes. How can you actually say that income taxes are "irrelevant"?

That's the subject.

Then don't forget state income taxes. In fact don't forget ALL other taxes, notice the rich don't pay enough. That's reaganism crap...I know, you're brainwashed and just keep repeating the same bs. That's called propaganda, dupe.

 

[Markle]

Go ahead and explain why that is a good thing for the country.

Keep in mind folks that the American socialists are by far the dumbest people on the planet.

Let us hear why American companies should be taxed more and why that is a good thing.

I'm not a Socialist.

I do believe in socialist healthcare, police force, army, education, but I don't believe in socialism when it comes to normal trading business and the like.

However, I can explain why companies should be paying higher tax.

[...]

Businesses should pay their way. It should be illegal for governments to incentivize businesses to move to their area with a massive pay check, this simply means the US has become many businesses rather one that works together for the benefit of the people, instead it works for the benefit of the rich and nothing else.

There is no such thing as Socialism in healthcare, police force, military or education. People CHOSE to tax themselves for those services.

Your ignorance about corporate taxes is not at all surprising. Far left Progressives are always looking for someone else to pay their way. They know nothing of personal responsibility.

PLEASE, in specific detail, please tell us who you believe pays corporate and business taxes. Would you do that for us please?

Yes they do choose to tax themselves for those services. And they could choose to tax themselves for the services in food, products etc. That's actually what socialism IS.

My ignorance of corporate taxes. If I'm so ignorant, why didn't you tell me where I was ignorant?

Funny how I said taxes should be fair, then all of a sudden you're labeling me a "Far left Progressive" and deciding I don't like personal responsibility.

Basically you've not back up that I'm ignorant then you're on the attack making stuff up about me.

All in all your post is a complete pile of shit.

Why didn't I tell you where you are ignorant? Because I wanted to give you the chance to educate yourself. Instead, you chose the route all, remaining ignorant.

so·cial·ism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]
NOUN

1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

 

[Dr Grump]

Yes we should be setting the example, and we have been for about 200 years, so why do you progressive morons want to follow the examples of failure like Venezuela and Cuba?

yeah, hark back to the good old days. Womenfolk stayed home, black folk had their own public toilets, and child molesters hiding behind the cloth had free reign. Gee, I miss those days...

NOT surprised that you are eager to point out that you refuse to behave like an adult.

At the risk of reinforcing your opinion - he started it...

 

[francoHFW]

Corporations and the wealthy already pay more than the half that don't pay income taxes do combined. That's easy. One taxpayer alone pays more than the half that pay nothing combined.

As they should

You tax where the money is and that is where the money is. They pay most of the income taxes because they consume most of the income and wealth.....what a concept

That's the moral code of a thief. A reported once asked John Dillinger why he robbed banks. His response: "that's where the money is."

Rich people consume wealth because they earn it.

Explain this

Wealth is being transferred from the poor and middle class to the rich because we're no longer enforcing our anti-trust laws that allow them to rule the market place and the unions are losing power. The workers deserve a say in the work they do...

If the poor have no wealth, how is something that doesn't exist...get transferred to someone else?

Unless the worker has an ownership interest, how do they deserve a say in the work they do? If a worker applies for a job, and is hired, they had their say in the work they do. Have they not?

More of that "transfer" of wealth has happened during the administration of Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama, has it not? So how can that be?

See Detroit with regard to the good done by unions.

Do you know why they stock market has increased so drastically? I'll post a chart for you but my bet is it will go over your head.

St. Louis Adjusted Monetary Base

It's just Reaganism rolling on, defended to the death by the bought off GOP and it's silly dupes like you. Most Americans are socialists, just a lot of dumb GOP ones...socialism is just fair, intelligent capitalism , everywhere but here. Home of cold war dupe/dinosaurs.

 

[francoHFW]

Go ahead and explain why that is a good thing for the country.

Keep in mind folks that the American socialists are by far the dumbest people on the planet.

Let us hear why American companies should be taxed more and why that is a good thing.

I'm not a Socialist.

I do believe in socialist healthcare, police force, army, education, but I don't believe in socialism when it comes to normal trading business and the like.

However, I can explain why companies should be paying higher tax.

[...]

Businesses should pay their way. It should be illegal for governments to incentivize businesses to move to their area with a massive pay check, this simply means the US has become many businesses rather one that works together for the benefit of the people, instead it works for the benefit of the rich and nothing else.

There is no such thing as Socialism in healthcare, police force, military or education. People CHOSE to tax themselves for those services.

Your ignorance about corporate taxes is not at all surprising. Far left Progressives are always looking for someone else to pay their way. They know nothing of personal responsibility.

PLEASE, in specific detail, please tell us who you believe pays corporate and business taxes. Would you do that for us please?

Yes they do choose to tax themselves for those services. And they could choose to tax themselves for the services in food, products etc. That's actually what socialism IS.

My ignorance of corporate taxes. If I'm so ignorant, why didn't you tell me where I was ignorant?

Funny how I said taxes should be fair, then all of a sudden you're labeling me a "Far left Progressive" and deciding I don't like personal responsibility.

Basically you've not back up that I'm ignorant then you're on the attack making stuff up about me.

All in all your post is a complete pile of shit.

Why didn't I tell you where you are ignorant? Because I wanted to give you the chance to educate yourself. Instead, you chose the route all, remaining ignorant.

so·cial·ism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]
NOUN

1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

REGULATED, dimwit.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Go ahead and explain why that is a good thing for the country.

Keep in mind folks that the American socialists are by far the dumbest people on the planet.

Let us hear why American companies should be taxed more and why that is a good thing.

I'm not a Socialist.

I do believe in socialist healthcare, police force, army, education, but I don't believe in socialism when it comes to normal trading business and the like.

However, I can explain why companies should be paying higher tax.

[...]

Businesses should pay their way. It should be illegal for governments to incentivize businesses to move to their area with a massive pay check, this simply means the US has become many businesses rather one that works together for the benefit of the people, instead it works for the benefit of the rich and nothing else.

There is no such thing as Socialism in healthcare, police force, military or education. People CHOSE to tax themselves for those services.

Your ignorance about corporate taxes is not at all surprising. Far left Progressives are always looking for someone else to pay their way. They know nothing of personal responsibility.

PLEASE, in specific detail, please tell us who you believe pays corporate and business taxes. Would you do that for us please?

Yes they do choose to tax themselves for those services. And they could choose to tax themselves for the services in food, products etc. That's actually what socialism IS.

My ignorance of corporate taxes. If I'm so ignorant, why didn't you tell me where I was ignorant?

Funny how I said taxes should be fair, then all of a sudden you're labeling me a "Far left Progressive" and deciding I don't like personal responsibility.

Basically you've not back up that I'm ignorant then you're on the attack making stuff up about me.

All in all your post is a complete pile of shit.

Why didn't I tell you where you are ignorant? Because I wanted to give you the chance to educate yourself. Instead, you chose the route all, remaining ignorant.

so·cial·ism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]
NOUN

1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

You know what? If you have a point, make your point WITHOUT trying to insult people first. You insult, I'll ignore.

 

[francoHFW]

Yes we should be setting the example, and we have been for about 200 years, so why do you progressive morons want to follow the examples of failure like Venezuela and Cuba?

yeah, hark back to the good old days. Womenfolk stayed home, black folk had their own public toilets, and child molesters hiding behind the cloth had free reign. Gee, I miss those days...

NOT surprised that you are eager to point out that you refuse to behave like an adult.

At the risk of reinforcing your opinion - he started it...

BTW Murkel, Cuba is COMMUNISM- never democratic, Venezuela is democratic. No matter what your bs propaganda says. Read a book. And not drivel like Liberal Fascism.

 

[Markle]

I don't have a problem with that. I hate the idea of retirement. I'd die of boredom.. Retirement is a relatively new concept anyway. Up until the past 100 years people worked as and when they needed to.

I could never understand that.

I can't wait to quit working. I would never be bored because there are always better things to do than work for somebody else.

I've been self-employed for over 40 years. I LOVE being a Realtor. I owned and managed companies and, for the past 10 years or so worked for a friend of mine and not having the hassle of ownership. I didn't think I could retire but worked into it slowly and I love it. I had owned at least five Harley's in my younger years and raced dozens. Hadn't had one for decades so, I bought another Harley and I LOVE IT. If I want to go, anywhere, no one to ask, no one to find to cover my listings and sales. Life is good!

 

[Markle]

Yes we should be setting the example, and we have been for about 200 years, so why do you progressive morons want to follow the examples of failure like Venezuela and Cuba?

yeah, hark back to the good old days. Womenfolk stayed home, black folk had their own public toilets, and child molesters hiding behind the cloth had free reign. Gee, I miss those days...

NOT surprised that you are eager to point out that you refuse to behave like an adult.

At the risk of reinforcing your opinion - he started it...

BTW Murkel, Cuba is COMMUNISM- never democratic, Venezuela is democratic. No matter what your bs propaganda says. Read a book. And not drivel like Liberal Fascism.

Yep, Cuba is Communism. Venezuela WAS a Democracy and Capitalism but now it is Socialist. The government took over business and control all means of distribution.

BTW francoHWF, Communism is the next step from Socialism after moving from Capitalism.

 

[Markle]

Go ahead and explain why that is a good thing for the country.

Keep in mind folks that the American socialists are by far the dumbest people on the planet.

Let us hear why American companies should be taxed more and why that is a good thing.

I'm not a Socialist.

I do believe in socialist healthcare, police force, army, education, but I don't believe in socialism when it comes to normal trading business and the like.

However, I can explain why companies should be paying higher tax.

[...]

Businesses should pay their way. It should be illegal for governments to incentivize businesses to move to their area with a massive pay check, this simply means the US has become many businesses rather one that works together for the benefit of the people, instead it works for the benefit of the rich and nothing else.

There is no such thing as Socialism in healthcare, police force, military or education. People CHOSE to tax themselves for those services.

Your ignorance about corporate taxes is not at all surprising. Far left Progressives are always looking for someone else to pay their way. They know nothing of personal responsibility.

PLEASE, in specific detail, please tell us who you believe pays corporate and business taxes. Would you do that for us please?

Yes they do choose to tax themselves for those services. And they could choose to tax themselves for the services in food, products etc. That's actually what socialism IS.

My ignorance of corporate taxes. If I'm so ignorant, why didn't you tell me where I was ignorant?

Funny how I said taxes should be fair, then all of a sudden you're labeling me a "Far left Progressive" and deciding I don't like personal responsibility.

Basically you've not back up that I'm ignorant then you're on the attack making stuff up about me.

All in all your post is a complete pile of shit.

Why didn't I tell you where you are ignorant? Because I wanted to give you the chance to educate yourself. Instead, you chose the route all, remaining ignorant.

so·cial·ism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]
NOUN

1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

You know what? If you have a point, make your point WITHOUT trying to insult people first. You insult, I'll ignore.

Like I said.

 

[Political Junky]

The OP likes doing with less and letting the Rich have it all.

 

[Markle]

How about an example of a company so over taxes they had to leave .

Burger King..........hold the pickle, please!

WHAT FUCKING TAXES? DIG THIS:

There are 27 companies in the Standard & Poor's 500, including telecom firm Level 3 Communications (LVLT), airline United Continental (UAL) and automaker General Motors (GM), that reported paying no income tax expense in 2015 despite reporting pre-tax profits, according to a USA TODAY analysis of data from S&P Global Market Intelligence.

I am not a socialist but I am upset by these mega corporations paying ZIP, NADA, N- O-T-H-I-N-G in taxes.
Don't YOU think they ought to pay MORE tax than ZERO?

Once again, PLEASE share with us all specifically who pays corporate taxes. Would you do that for us please?

 

[francoHFW]

Yes we should be setting the example, and we have been for about 200 years, so why do you progressive morons want to follow the examples of failure like Venezuela and Cuba?

yeah, hark back to the good old days. Womenfolk stayed home, black folk had their own public toilets, and child molesters hiding behind the cloth had free reign. Gee, I miss those days...

NOT surprised that you are eager to point out that you refuse to behave like an adult.

At the risk of reinforcing your opinion - he started it...

BTW Murkel, Cuba is COMMUNISM- never democratic, Venezuela is democratic. No matter what your bs propaganda says. Read a book. And not drivel like Liberal Fascism.

Yep, Cuba is Communism. Venezuela WAS a Democracy and Capitalism but now it is Socialist. The government took over business and control all means of distribution.

BTW francoHWF, Communism is the next step from Socialism after moving from Capitalism.

Socialism only regulates capitalism, and has only gone communist by violent revolution or invasion. Read something. Venezuela has done no such thing, nationalized some energy only. And made life a helluva lot better for most of the people. If they don't like it, they can vote them out, dupe. D'OH!
A lot of the problem there is RW sabotage by the oligarchs...

 

[Markle]

When big corporations use tax havens to dodge paying their fair share of taxes, the rest of us have to pick up the tab. Families pay higher taxes, get fewer services or we all get a bigger deficit.

Tax dodging by large corporations puts small businesses that play by the rules at a disadvantage. We need to level the playing field

---
sicking

Small businesses pay taxes on their owners personal tax return.

 

[JQPublic1]

How about an example of a company so over taxes they had to leave .

Burger King..........hold the pickle, please!

WHAT FUCKING TAXES? DIG THIS:

There are 27 companies in the Standard & Poor's 500, including telecom firm Level 3 Communications (LVLT), airline United Continental (UAL) and automaker General Motors (GM), that reported paying no income tax expense in 2015 despite reporting pre-tax profits, according to a USA TODAY analysis of data from S&P Global Market Intelligence.

I am not a socialist but I am upset by these mega corporations paying ZIP, NADA, N- O-T-H-I-N-G in taxes.
Don't YOU think they ought to pay MORE tax than ZERO?

Once again, PLEASE share with us all specifically who pays corporate taxes. Would you do that for us please?

Can't you draw your own conclusions from what I posted or are you such an idiot I have to hold your hand and point the way?

 

[Markle]

yeah, hark back to the good old days. Womenfolk stayed home, black folk had their own public toilets, and child molesters hiding behind the cloth had free reign. Gee, I miss those days...

NOT surprised that you are eager to point out that you refuse to behave like an adult.

At the risk of reinforcing your opinion - he started it...

BTW Murkel, Cuba is COMMUNISM- never democratic, Venezuela is democratic. No matter what your bs propaganda says. Read a book. And not drivel like Liberal Fascism.

Yep, Cuba is Communism. Venezuela WAS a Democracy and Capitalism but now it is Socialist. The government took over business and control all means of distribution.

BTW francoHWF, Communism is the next step from Socialism after moving from Capitalism.

Socialism only regulates capitalism, and has only gone communist by violent revolution or invasion. Read something. Venezuela has done no such thing, nationalized some energy only. And made life a helluva lot better for most of the people. If they don't like it, they can vote them out, dupe. D'OH!
A lot of the problem there is RW sabotage by the oligarchs...

Socialism regulates capitalism!

From several years back, here are the industries nationalized by Venezuela. If you think their life if better, you're really more than a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

Factbox: Venezuela's nationalizations under Chavez

Don't they show the food shortages and lack of toilet paper in Venezuela at The Nation, DailyKOS or MediaMatters?

 

[Markle]

How about an example of a company so over taxes they had to leave .

Burger King..........hold the pickle, please!

WHAT FUCKING TAXES? DIG THIS:

There are 27 companies in the Standard & Poor's 500, including telecom firm Level 3 Communications (LVLT), airline United Continental (UAL) and automaker General Motors (GM), that reported paying no income tax expense in 2015 despite reporting pre-tax profits, according to a USA TODAY analysis of data from S&P Global Market Intelligence.

I am not a socialist but I am upset by these mega corporations paying ZIP, NADA, N- O-T-H-I-N-G in taxes.
Don't YOU think they ought to pay MORE tax than ZERO?

Once again, PLEASE share with us all specifically who pays corporate taxes. Would you do that for us please?

Can't you draw your own conclusions from what I posted or are you such an idiot I have to hold your hand and point the way?

You refuse don't you? Just can't bring yourself to utter the words can you?

 

[francoHFW]

NOT surprised that you are eager to point out that you refuse to behave like an adult.

At the risk of reinforcing your opinion - he started it...

BTW Murkel, Cuba is COMMUNISM- never democratic, Venezuela is democratic. No matter what your bs propaganda says. Read a book. And not drivel like Liberal Fascism.

Yep, Cuba is Communism. Venezuela WAS a Democracy and Capitalism but now it is Socialist. The government took over business and control all means of distribution.

BTW francoHWF, Communism is the next step from Socialism after moving from Capitalism.

Socialism only regulates capitalism, and has only gone communist by violent revolution or invasion. Read something. Venezuela has done no such thing, nationalized some energy only. And made life a helluva lot better for most of the people. If they don't like it, they can vote them out, dupe. D'OH!
A lot of the problem there is RW sabotage by the oligarchs...

Socialism regulates capitalism!

From several years back, here are the industries nationalized by Venezuela. If you think their life if better, you're really more than a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

Factbox: Venezuela's nationalizations under Chavez

Don't they show the food shortages and lack of toilet paper in Venezuela at The Nation, DailyKOS or MediaMatters?

Jeeebus, brainwashed functional moron, socialism regulates capitalism is in YOUR definition of socialism.