Can the USA ever be United again?

This is why conservatism is the only barrier to unity;

people who are incapable of finding common ground and cause with others because they cannot tolerate the fact that they won't celebrate only the holidays conservatives want to permit them.

Liberalism is just as much of a barrier to unity as conservatism. Liberal unity is everyone should be liberal and have liberal goals and ideals. If that's unity, conservatives should reject such unity where ever it is.

Whenever a liberal whines about "divisiveness" and demands that we unite, what he means is that you are to drop your goals and your ideals and "unite" under his goals and his ideals. It's nothing more than a demand for hegemony.

Never assume liberal rhetoric is benign. It always has a sinister purpose.

I could not agree more. The left is ALWAYS willing to engage in "unity" as long as the conservatives go along (and don't talk back). Remember - anytime you hear the left calling for "common ground" it means that everyone BUT THEM compromises.
 
As long as the minority extreme left has political control, there will be no re-uniting this country. When 2% of the pouplation (homos) agenda has control over the media, and has people are scared to say what they really feel with out being labeled as Homophobes, this country cannot reunite. When you have a POTUS that is so out of touch with main stream america, this country cannot re-unite.
 
121- Total bs from the ''No compromise, un-American Tea Party GOP''- TIME. I WOULD ADD BRAINWASHED AND 50 PER CENT PLUS RACIST...

OP- Absolutely, as soon as the mindlessly obstructionist new bs GOP gets a grip and reads something. The Republican plan for health reform is NOT communism, hater dupes...
 
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As long as the minority extreme left has political control, there will be no re-uniting this country. When 2% of the pouplation (homos) agenda has control over the media, and has people are scared to say what they really feel with out being labeled as Homophobes, this country cannot reunite. When you have a POTUS that is so out of touch with main stream america, this country cannot re-unite.

You are afraid to say what you really feel?

Pussy.
 
As long as the minority extreme left has political control, there will be no re-uniting this country. When 2% of the pouplation (homos) agenda has control over the media, and has people are scared to say what they really feel with out being labeled as Homophobes, this country cannot reunite. When you have a POTUS that is so out of touch with main stream america, this country cannot re-unite.

You are afraid to say what you really feel?

Pussy.

I said exactly what meant to say. Dont like it too fucking bad.
 
Good post, you and I are on the same page. It really hurts me to think of the mess that we are leaving our kids and grandkids. It hurts me to watch my great country be destroyed by the evil forces of the left. It hurts me to watch God be removed from our national conscience. It hurts me to see the corruption and lying that is commonplace in DC. It hurts me to see our media become an arm of one party that suppressed disent and debate.

I am mad as hell and will not be silenced. I only hope that there are a lot more of us.


I have to be completely honest here because this subject is something that has bothered me for some time now. Ever see a little kid go near a hot stove? You (being the good parent) tell the kid - "don't touch that, it will burn you" and, for a while, the kid listens. However, sooner or later, the kid is going to touch the hot stove and get burned. He HAS to do it. I guess it's part of the learning process. Hot stove = finger burnt.

I fail to understand the left these days. I have to believe that they have the intellectual capability to understand that this country simply CAN NOT go on like it currently is - we are destined for disaster - yet, they are either too stupid to understand, or they celebrate the demise of America. They actually seem to relish this "race to the bottom" and it perplexes the hell out of me.

Are they so insanely jealous of those who achieve success that they would watch their future and their children's future simply vanish and be relegated to cheap history books? They stand back and applaud a man who has accomplished nothing in his 5 years in office other than to divide us and paint those who achieve as "the bad guys". In other words - class warfare.

They ignore the great wealth amassed by those on the left - while denigrating those on the right. They rejoice in those who are "taking" from the government while they dismiss those who actually "work". They point to more government "control" over the people while they demonize those who speak out against an out-of-control government; calling their Mothers and Fathers "tea baggers" because they would DARE to speak out against this slow death.

They despise anything "patriotic" and anything associated with "God and Country" and they embrace every perversion under the sun. They have attempted to run into the ground, anything remotely connected to "God" - and demand that "religion" take a backseat to "government". After all - to the left - government is THE answer - not God. Their secular humanism knows no limits. Just as in the days of Stalin.

I know that I am old. I get that. However, "old" doesn't mean "stupid". We are living in dangerous times. I haven't felt this uneasy about this country - ever. I lived through Viet nam. I lived through riots. I have lived through impeachments and threats of impeachments. I lived through assassinations and attempted assassinations. I have lived through great presidents and horrible presidents. I have lived through inflation and high unemployment. I lived through recession, gas wars, oil embargoes and long gas lines.

But one thing always remained strong about this country - hope. And every time we were beginning to be counted out - we came back.

I wish to hell that I believed that "America's best days were ahead of it" - but I know better. The current crop of people that are representing us are incompetent and, more importantly, are out for themselves.

The left in this country are no longer "patriots". They are Marxists, Communists and fascists. They have been brought up to believe that America is inherently bad and must be "brought down a peg".

Unfortunately, they fail to understand that THEY are America. It's THEIR futures and their children's future that they are seeking to destroy. So, go ahead and keep touching that hot stove. Hopefully, by the time you are able to figure it out - it won't be too late.
The country has been infiltrated by those who hold nothing but contempt for her; they hate God - Cloward and Piven strategy!


Right, the left hates the US and they have infiltrated the US. Oh and they hate God too!
As someone who has voted for both parties and didn't vote for Obama, I find posts like this very, very troubling. With crap like that, you folks aren't going to win many elections. That's extremist talk and considering a Pew poll found that a majority of Americas thought the GOP was extremist, stuff like that does nothing to change that opinion.
 
When one reads the various threads on this message board, listens to the media, listens to the rhetoric coming out of DC, it becomes a real concern whether this country has become so divided politically and philosophically that it may not ever be united again.

we have always had different ideas, but we have always been able to find the common ground and go forward as Americans with a common purpose. I do not see that happening today.

Thoughts, comments.


We have always been like this and there have always been people like you saying things like that.
 
As long as the minority extreme left has political control, there will be no re-uniting this country. When 2% of the pouplation (homos) agenda has control over the media, and has people are scared to say what they really feel with out being labeled as Homophobes, this country cannot reunite. When you have a POTUS that is so out of touch with main stream america, this country cannot re-unite.

You are afraid to say what you really feel?

Pussy.

I said exactly what meant to say. Dont like it too fucking bad.

Then...why are you whining? You afraid of some limp-wristed homo's?

You sure seem scared.
 
We all know that USA is united now

You have to be kidding, Fakey. I despise you and everyone who thinks like you. So does every other member of this forum who believes in freedom.

Yes, because the only way to be "free" is to think exactly the same way you do.:cuckoo:

Yes it is.

You believe you can be free by selling yourself into slavery. Everyone who says "no you can't" you accuse of believing that freedom means thinking like they do.

Freedom is freedom. There are no different flavors of it.
 
When one reads the various threads on this message board, listens to the media, listens to the rhetoric coming out of DC, it becomes a real concern whether this country has become so divided politically and philosophically that it may not ever be united again.

we have always had different ideas, but we have always been able to find the common ground and go forward as Americans with a common purpose. I do not see that happening today.

Thoughts, comments.
Look at divided humanity as a processed food. it is divided to be consumed. Behind the curtains lies another secret world, very united, a world that sucks in it's victims to the media, the shredding machine of society. hope this helps. oh, and if you care about American society, may I suggest this:
[ame=http://youtu.be/AfozAw40_zM]Nobody the Leader - Greatest Story Never Told Part 1 - We 1% Will Win - YouTube[/ame]
 
Prosperous but divided U.S. is historically relatively normal and OK. Pending socialism, hate speech against conservative information, extortion scams like global warming that impacts the price of energy and the media defending a failed administration is not OK.
 
We live in a plutocracy. And the plutocrats are definitely not divided on their goals, aims and purposes.

It is the rest of us that have a division problem. Some don't want to be governed by plutocrats and some do.

Which side are you all on?

In the last few years we seem to have gotten more and more divided.

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Oh, we were talking about politics. I'm sure it is just a coincidence.
 
This board only looks that way because we have alot of type A, hyper partisan members on this board. People who actually give a shit about politics, political junkies. Only about ten million a day watch cable news. The vast majority of Americans are politically inept and couldn't tell you who their Senator or Congressman are. So to us, a tiny minority of the electorate, that actually follow politics, yea it looks like America is divided, but in reality most Americans would rather vote on American Idol or Survivor than take their fat asses to the polling place to vote in national elections.

A lot of truth in that statement, but there is more to it. Political forums like this tend to attract the radicals on boths sides. Those who do not fall to the far left or far right tend to stay away from places like this, because it's pretty much a losing battle. The problem with that is that is pretty much how real politics have turned, with the fringes controlling the dialogue on just about every issue. That is the real reason we seem to be so divided.

Maybe instead of having the Republican and Democratic parties, we should have the conservative, liberal, and moderate parties. That would change who controlled the dialogue as the moderates would be in the majority.
 
I have to be completely honest here because this subject is something that has bothered me for some time now. Ever see a little kid go near a hot stove? You (being the good parent) tell the kid - "don't touch that, it will burn you" and, for a while, the kid listens. However, sooner or later, the kid is going to touch the hot stove and get burned. He HAS to do it. I guess it's part of the learning process. Hot stove = finger burnt.

I fail to understand the left these days. I have to believe that they have the intellectual capability to understand that this country simply CAN NOT go on like it currently is - we are destined for disaster - yet, they are either too stupid to understand, or they celebrate the demise of America. They actually seem to relish this "race to the bottom" and it perplexes the hell out of me.

Are they so insanely jealous of those who achieve success that they would watch their future and their children's future simply vanish and be relegated to cheap history books? They stand back and applaud a man who has accomplished nothing in his 5 years in office other than to divide us and paint those who achieve as "the bad guys". In other words - class warfare.

They ignore the great wealth amassed by those on the left - while denigrating those on the right. They rejoice in those who are "taking" from the government while they dismiss those who actually "work". They point to more government "control" over the people while they demonize those who speak out against an out-of-control government; calling their Mothers and Fathers "tea baggers" because they would DARE to speak out against this slow death.

They despise anything "patriotic" and anything associated with "God and Country" and they embrace every perversion under the sun. They have attempted to run into the ground, anything remotely connected to "God" - and demand that "religion" take a backseat to "government". After all - to the left - government is THE answer - not God. Their secular humanism knows no limits. Just as in the days of Stalin.

I know that I am old. I get that. However, "old" doesn't mean "stupid". We are living in dangerous times. I haven't felt this uneasy about this country - ever. I lived through Viet nam. I lived through riots. I have lived through impeachments and threats of impeachments. I lived through assassinations and attempted assassinations. I have lived through great presidents and horrible presidents. I have lived through inflation and high unemployment. I lived through recession, gas wars, oil embargoes and long gas lines.

But one thing always remained strong about this country - hope. And every time we were beginning to be counted out - we came back.

I wish to hell that I believed that "America's best days were ahead of it" - but I know better. The current crop of people that are representing us are incompetent and, more importantly, are out for themselves.

The left in this country are no longer "patriots". They are Marxists, Communists and fascists. They have been brought up to believe that America is inherently bad and must be "brought down a peg".

Unfortunately, they fail to understand that THEY are America. It's THEIR futures and their children's future that they are seeking to destroy. So, go ahead and keep touching that hot stove. Hopefully, by the time you are able to figure it out - it won't be too late.
The country has been infiltrated by those who hold nothing but contempt for her; they hate God - Cloward and Piven strategy!


Right, the left hates the US and they have infiltrated the US. Oh and they hate God too!
As someone who has voted for both parties and didn't vote for Obama, I find posts like this very, very troubling. With crap like that, you folks aren't going to win many elections. That's extremist talk and considering a Pew poll found that a majority of Americas thought the GOP was extremist, stuff like that does nothing to change that opinion.

Folks like you - are what troubles me. Nowhere in my response did I suggest armed insurrection - nowhere. Yet you find the ramblings of an old man who fought for the United States (and still has the shrapnel in my hip to prove it) "Troubling" and you're afraid that we won't win many elections.

If, in fact, it is as you say that "We won't win many elections"…then why the hell do you care? You've WON! Yet folks like you seemed "concerned" that talk like ours will cost us elections. Hmm..curious.

Talk about disingenuous!


Here's my short answer to you (and those like you):


Kiss my ass!
 
Conservatives don't want a united country. Conservatives want to balkanize America every way they can,

under the banner of their own perverted definition of 'liberty'.

Be honest, the same can be said about liberals. Obama will say it tonight, its my way or I will do it by dictate.

I don't. I don't want to see America turn into 50 little kingdoms with a nearly irrelevant central government.

Conservatives want states rights so they can roll back human rights.

Horse manure. Someone needs to read the Constitution and have a 7th grade civics teacher explain it to them. Are you totally ignorant of the founding of this nation?
 
Good luck in finding a 7th grade teacher of ANY subject who isn't the product of liberal indoctrination in lieu of having been taught anything about the proper role of government.

Seriously.....lots and lots of luck.

You'll need every bit you can get.
 
Good luck in finding a 7th grade teacher of ANY subject who isn't the product of liberal indoctrination in lieu of having been taught anything about the proper role of government.

Seriously.....lots and lots of luck.

You'll need every bit you can get.

Let's see, all these rightwing nuts went to public education for twelve years, graduated high school, and then rebelled against the system in the name of Constitutional rights? If the rightwingers went on to take four years of college they were subjected to even more liberalism propaganda but still kept their souls pure. Yep, the whole educational system is liberal propaganda but right wingers have a built in sense of the true meaning of the Constitution. :confused:
 

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