Czernobog
Gold Member
And we're done, you lose. When you have to resort to name calling, you have admitted that you have no rational argument left. Thank you for playing. do feel free to pick up your parting gifts on the way out. And the point is "being alive:' is not enough. Vegetative patients are "alive", but because they are not viable we have no problem taking them off life support, and ending their lives. Similarly fetuses that are not viable, do not get a vote in whether a woman ends them.Stop making up science. Viability is not in the definition of being alive, dumbass.Actually, viability has everything to do with what is living, and what is not. If you remove that clump of cells from its host, will it survive? If the answer is no, than it is no more independent, than a cluster of cancer cells. Until, and unless, that fetus achieves viability, it is the property of the pregnant woman, to do with as she wishes. Period. Any other view is based on religious twaddle.We seem to be going around in circles here. The reality is that viability does not define what is living nor does it define what it is. So despite your attempt to rationalize ending the life of a human being as good and just, all you have done is dehumanization so that you can feel better about yourself.You can keep saying that all you like. It is a determination made by doctors, not lawyers. That makes it medical, and you repeatedly insisting that it is a "legal" argument won't make you any less wrong. Do doctors determine viability, or do lawyers? Unless you can provide examples demonstrating that it is the latter, it is a medical determination, and you constantly refusing to admit that, won't change it. You see that is the difference between a belief, and a fact. A fact remains accurate, regardless of your willingness to believe it.No. It is a legal argument. One that is used to dehumanize human life for the express purpose of ending it.Wrong. It is a medical determination. Lawyers don't decide viability, doctors do. You just want to ignore the issue of viability, because you know that it destroys your juvenile, simplistic view of abortion.
And remember this discussion, the next time you bring this twaddle up, and claim to have "run me off" with your irrational, emotional, and, ultimately, insufficient defence of your religious moral position.