Capitalistic greed is the main problem in the U.S.

[Conservative65]

I'm talking about more Liberal bullshit taking the easy way out by punishing 495 in favor of 5 rather than finding ways to deal with it and still stay safe.

Why should 99 passengers have to do without because 1 random person could be affected.

It's the Liberal way. If we don't like something, we'll ban it .

You just sound stupid and phony now. Conservatives would say that an airline has every right to do what they want with the food service on their planes. If they don't want to risk a passenger dying in flight do to a peanut allergy then they can not serve peanuts. Who are you to say otherwise? Protest if you want, take another airline, that's fine, but most common sense people understand the reasoning.

So now you're defining common sense? Common sense says 99 shouldn't do without because 1 MIGHT be affected.

You're an idiot man, i'm just about done with your BS

I'm not the one defining things and expecting others to follow along because I said it. That's you. You've tried to apply your view of greedy, common sense, and no telling how many more things for which you have no place doing on someone else's behalf.

That was discussions and debates are dude... people expressing their opinions... don't be a hypocrite

You want to dictate and there is a difference.

 

[Conservative65]

Like with any business where is a CEO a decision maker. For the school you had the principle. With either situation you aren't always going to get your way. With government we at least have the ability to elect new representatives if we do not like the decisions of the leader. Why do you make it a liberal thing? That has nothing to do with it.

I didn't make a Liberal thing. The principal was a Liberal. She made it that way by being one.

It's not about getting my way. It's about doing what's right in that situation. When, in a school of 500, 5 are the cause of such a drastic decision, it's not right to punish the other 495.

Well now you are being a hypocrite and deciding what is right and wrong... didn't you just try and insult me for doing just that? If a principal who is responsible for the safety of the students in a school knows that 5 children have peanut allergy and they do not want to risk a dead student, then they can do what they want about the policy as long as it is within their power. I imagine there are more parents than just the 5 that understand and support this safety measure. If not and if there is enough opposition then that principal will be replaced with somebody that better serves the will of that community.

I'm sorry but maybe I'm prejudice.

I completely understand the need to not allow peanuts or any peanut product in a public school. Some children are so sensitive to it that even the dust from peanuts in the air will send them into anaphylaxis which will kill them without an epipen. That child didn't ask for the allergy. They were born that way. They don't deserve to be ostracized or discriminated because of an allergy. No child should ever fear going to school because they might die from peanuts or peanut products.

Children can bring any sort of sandwich to school they want. PB&J isn't the only type of sandwich a child can eat. I know when I sent a lunch to school with my child I never put any sort of peanut product in it. Ever. My child doesn't have those allergies but I know we are all different and others do. I don't want to find out that a child died because of a sandwich I made.

I have the same problem only with penicillin and any mold that has certain components of penicillin. Which molds with those components are naturally in nature so I can just be walking down the street in the fall or winter and go into anaphylaxis because there's mold in the air. The anaphylaxis is nearly immediate and will kill me without an epipen.

I have to ask certain questions before I go into someone's home or car. If they kept there car outside in our rain, I'm not getting in that car. If they have carpet in their home and it's more than a couple years old, I'm not going in that house.

I didn't ask for this allergy. One of my cousins has the same allergy only not as severe as I have it.

You're arguing with someone who either doesn't understand how lethal peanuts can be to others or they're just too selfish and self centered to care.

So now you dictate what my child should and shouldn't eat because of something they didn't do and weren't born with? While PB&J isn't the only kind of sandwich, it's the one my child like but was told she couldn't eat due to nothing she did.

You're a very good example of what I was talking about.

You don't have to send your child to school with a sandwich. My child wasn't a fan of sandwiches. Even PB&J which I thought was strange. But she just didn't like sandwiches. So I sent her to school with yogurt, veggies, fruit and other things that were healthy and she liked. There are tons of single serve foods you can buy that are spaghetti or ravioli or mac & cheese etc. The school will put them in a microwave for your young child or older children are allowed to use the microwave in the cafeteria. Which is exactly what I did with my child.

Even if she did like PB&J I would never have sent one of those sandwiches to school with her. I know that some kids are allergic to the peanut butter.

I'm a decent human being and the last thing I want to do is accidentally kill someone's child because of a sandwich I made. Or in your case just too lazy to send your child to school with something other than a sandwich.

All your post says is that you don't care about anyone else's child and have no problem with killing a child with a sandwich you made.

Shame on you.

Because you child wasn't a fan of sandwiches, others shouldn't send sandwiches? Typical Liberal thinking it's OK to dictate what another person's child should eat. You learned well from Wookie Michelle.

When you dictate what someone else's child should eat, it makes you an asshole. It's not a matter of lazy, it's a matter of it isn't your fucking business to be the food police.

It's not my responsibility to look after your child. It's yours just like it's none of your business what my child eats. It sounds as if you're the lazy that wants to take the easy way out instead of actually doing something other than what YOU want.

 

[Onyx]

"The solution is obvious. satiates are the problem" how in the world is that presenting a solution? All you did is state another problem

The problem never changed, but if you really want me to spell it out for you.

The state and rulership should be replaced by voluntary means of governance, while organized insurrectionary reactionism should be promoted against those that seek to establish states or rulership.

 

[Conservative65]

So Hillary speaks out against it... Trump doesn't say a word... And trumps campaigns only comment is that Hillary isn't doing enough?? Anybody see the irony in that?

Hillary is taking fucking bribes from them, Moron.

You can't be this stupid, it isn't possible...

I'm the moron? Ok genius please explain how Mylan's donation to the Clinton foundation resulted in anything that Clinton did or didn't do to work in their favor. Describe what you propose Clinton do about this situation other than what she has already done (voice her objection). Be specific... I'll save you some time... You can't because you are full of shit.

Give back the money. If Clinton doesn't like what the company did, prove it by returning the donation in full.

Is that what charities do? Vet the donors and return the money if they have differences with the donor? Who else does this? I've never heard of it before

Sounds to me as you are the same type hypocrite as Hillary. I'll take your money then chastise what you do but send me more.

 

[Conservative65]

You mean by the small percentage that actually vote and even much smaller percentage that have a clue as to why they vote for a certain person?

Recent primary elections where I live, some for offices on the national level, specifically the House of Representatives and Senate, had a 15% voter turnout. Runoffs occurred in some statewide and local offices two week later with a whopping 5 - 6% turnout. That's really being elected by the people.

100% should have the ability to vote if they don't do it then that's their call.

When such a low percentage of people vote, it definitely refutes your claim that "our officials are elected by the people".

You're right, the monkeys elect them... you win

It damn sure isn't a representative portion of THE PEOPLE.

Oh, now you add the word "representative" I see... Nice try

When you said "The People", did you mean anything other than ALL the people?

I didn't add representative. When only a small portion of the whole shows up, it isn't The People, it's a representative portion OF the people.

 

[Onyx]

Because you child wasn't a fan of sandwiches, others shouldn't send sandwiches? Typical Liberal thinking it's OK to dictate what another person's child should eat. You learned well from Wookie Michelle.

Are you an anarchist?

Otherwise you probably dictate the actions of others to a degree also.

 

[Conservative65]

True,but it is our machine so we gotta do the best we can with it

That is a lame argument.

Pretty complacent too.

What are you talking about? This is our reality. It is our country and the system that governs it. It is an evolving process and with each election we have the opportunity to institute change, so we voice the changes that we want made.

What's your plan? Anarchy?

Follow the Constitution not what people want added to it for which the government has no authority to do.

Then fight to tweak the machine in that favor... Thats my point

So you do support the government doing things for which the Constitution gives them no power? Typical piece of shit Liberal. No wonder the Constitution is being destroyed. People like you hate it.

 

[Onyx]

People like you hate it.

Nah, people like me hate the constitution.

People like him love to ignore it.

 

[Conservative65]

Because you child wasn't a fan of sandwiches, others shouldn't send sandwiches? Typical Liberal thinking it's OK to dictate what another person's child should eat. You learned well from Wookie Michelle.

Are you an anarchist?

Otherwise you probably dictate the actions of others to a degree also.

Why don't you tell me what actions of others I dictate since you think I do.

 

[Conservative65]

People like you hate it.

Nah, people like me hate the constitution.

People like him love to ignore it.

Then, the two of you fit the same description.

 

[Onyx]

Because you child wasn't a fan of sandwiches, others shouldn't send sandwiches? Typical Liberal thinking it's OK to dictate what another person's child should eat. You learned well from Wookie Michelle.

Are you an anarchist?

Otherwise you probably dictate the actions of others to a degree also.

Why don't you tell me what actions of others I dictate since you think I do.

I asked whether you were an anarchist.

If you are an anarchist, then that means you do not dictate the actions of others. At least systematically.

I honestly have no idea what you believe, but my intuition is telling me you are not an anarchist, which implies a serious double standard.

 

[Onyx]

Then, the two of you fit the same description.

Good for us.

 

[Conservative65]

Because you child wasn't a fan of sandwiches, others shouldn't send sandwiches? Typical Liberal thinking it's OK to dictate what another person's child should eat. You learned well from Wookie Michelle.

Are you an anarchist?

Otherwise you probably dictate the actions of others to a degree also.

Why don't you tell me what actions of others I dictate since you think I do.

I asked whether you were an anarchist.

If you are an anarchist, then that means you do not dictate the actions of others. At least systematically.

I honestly have no idea what you believe, but my intuition is telling me you are not an anarchist, which implies a serious double standard.

There are those to whom I dictate actions. They're called employees to which I pay for doing a job. I dictate when they show up to work. I dictate what they do when they're here despite giving a lot of discretion. I dictate when they leave. I dictate, to some degree, what they wear. And, so on. That's not a double standard because I don't dictate that they have to work for me. I give them the entire choice in the matter. However, if they choose to do so, dictating all those things is because I pay them with MY money.

 

[Conservative65]

Then, the two of you fit the same description.

Good for us.

A Constitution hating piece of shit is an accurate description of you?

 

[healthmyths]

So Hillary speaks out against it... Trump doesn't say a word... And trumps campaigns only comment is that Hillary isn't doing enough?? Anybody see the irony in that?

Hillary is taking fucking bribes from them, Moron.

You can't be this stupid, it isn't possible...

I'm the moron? Ok genius please explain how Mylan's donation to the Clinton foundation resulted in anything that Clinton did or didn't do to work in their favor. Describe what you propose Clinton do about this situation other than what she has already done (voice her objection). Be specific... I'll save you some time... You can't because you are full of shit.

Give back the money. If Clinton doesn't like what the company did, prove it by returning the donation in full.

Is that what charities do? Vet the donors and return the money if they have differences with the donor? Who else does this? I've never heard of it before

Giuliani rejects $10 million from Saudi prince
October 12, 2001 Posted: 3:14 AM EDT (0714 GMT)
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Thursday the city would not accept a $10 million donation for disaster relief from Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal after the prince suggested U.S. policies in the Middle East contributed to the September 11 attacks.

 

[Conservative65]

What are you talking about? This is our reality. It is our country and the system that governs it.

The political reality is shit. The system is shit.

The country is redeemable, when politics are not destroying it.

It is an evolving process and with each election we have the opportunity to institute change, so we voice the changes that we want made.

You only have the illusion of power within the system.

Let's analyze what that "change" actually constitutes.

Conforming and controlling the actions of your brother man, when your brother man is just as capable of self sufficiency as you are.

So now that you have all the complaining out of the way, what are your proposed solutions... Realistic solutions

Are you the one that wants to define "realisitc"?

 

[Conservative65]

So Hillary speaks out against it... Trump doesn't say a word... And trumps campaigns only comment is that Hillary isn't doing enough?? Anybody see the irony in that?

Hillary is taking fucking bribes from them, Moron.

You can't be this stupid, it isn't possible...

I'm the moron? Ok genius please explain how Mylan's donation to the Clinton foundation resulted in anything that Clinton did or didn't do to work in their favor. Describe what you propose Clinton do about this situation other than what she has already done (voice her objection). Be specific... I'll save you some time... You can't because you are full of shit.

Give back the money. If Clinton doesn't like what the company did, prove it by returning the donation in full.

Is that what charities do? Vet the donors and return the money if they have differences with the donor? Who else does this? I've never heard of it before

www.theguardian.com/business/2015/dec/19/homeless-charity-to-return-donation-by-pharmaceuticals-bad-boy-martin-shkreli

I believe healthmyths provided you an exampe, too.

 

[Slade3200]

"The solution is obvious. satiates are the problem" how in the world is that presenting a solution? All you did is state another problem

The problem never changed, but if you really want me to spell it out for you.

The state and rulership should be replaced by voluntary means of governance, while organized insurrectionary reactionism should be promoted against those that seek to establish states or rulership.

So how does this happen in our system? What are the steps?

Also, who leads the volunteers, surely you agree that there needs to be some for of leadership, individuals who are responsible for making decisions when there is debate, organizing actions, managing budgets, etc etc etc. with a volunteer force, who leads? How do these people make a living, are they paid?

 

[Slade3200]

So Hillary speaks out against it... Trump doesn't say a word... And trumps campaigns only comment is that Hillary isn't doing enough?? Anybody see the irony in that?

Hillary is taking fucking bribes from them, Moron.

You can't be this stupid, it isn't possible...

I'm the moron? Ok genius please explain how Mylan's donation to the Clinton foundation resulted in anything that Clinton did or didn't do to work in their favor. Describe what you propose Clinton do about this situation other than what she has already done (voice her objection). Be specific... I'll save you some time... You can't because you are full of shit.

Give back the money. If Clinton doesn't like what the company did, prove it by returning the donation in full.

Is that what charities do? Vet the donors and return the money if they have differences with the donor? Who else does this? I've never heard of it before

Sounds to me as you are the same type hypocrite as Hillary. I'll take your money then chastise what you do but send me more.

Want to try answering the question?

 

[Slade3200]

100% should have the ability to vote if they don't do it then that's their call.

When such a low percentage of people vote, it definitely refutes your claim that "our officials are elected by the people".

You're right, the monkeys elect them... you win

It damn sure isn't a representative portion of THE PEOPLE.

Oh, now you add the word "representative" I see... Nice try

When you said "The People", did you mean anything other than ALL the people?

I didn't add representative. When only a small portion of the whole shows up, it isn't The People, it's a representative portion OF the people.

Dude, it's simple, there is an election, individuals campaign, the people vote, the one with the most votes is elected. We are not going to force people who don't want to vote to vote. You should be thankful that 100% don't vote or a republican would never win another election