Catholic Bishops Oppose Compromise on Birth-Control

[Soggy in NOLA]

This has nothing to do with the war, or the pedophiles in any church. It has to do with basic first amendment rights. But you are too stupid to understand that. Either that or your hatred for the church blinds you.

And no I am not catholic.....

Well, it kind of does.

What if Catholics claimed pedophilia was part of their religion?

Oh brother.

 

[Luissa]

Who have been the most outspoken against women's reproductive health lately? White men. We even have a candidate who seems to maybe into making women keep the baby of their rapist. So yes I have a problem with white men right now, they seem to have a problem with me.

Thank you for adding another ignorant, racist rant to the thread. You know there are lots of BLACK Bishops in the Catholic Church, right?

Yep, I am racist against white men. I will freely admit it. I guess it is in defense of them hating women. And is the bishop white or black?
And tell me, are they still covering Viagra on their health plans? And did they not cover for their own when they were molesting children? I know they sure did here.
I guess you don't like women calling it how it is.

OK RDEAN, what the fuck does black and white have to do with it? Come in here a day late and throw the fucking race card, are you fucking kidding me? Damn luissa I thought you were smarter than that.

 

[Ravi]

This has nothing to do with the war, or the pedophiles in any church. It has to do with basic first amendment rights. But you are too stupid to understand that. Either that or your hatred for the church blinds you.

And no I am not catholic.....

Well, it kind of does.

What if Catholics claimed pedophilia was part of their religion?

What if elephants could fly?

Way to avoid the question.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Well, it kind of does.

What if Catholics claimed pedophilia was part of their religion?

What if elephants could fly?

Way to avoid the question.

What if my Aunt had testicles?

 

[tinydancer]

Muslim women SHOULD stand up and kick thier 9th Century masters to the proverbial curb.

hehehe from Kazemi ( the first muslim woman I rocked for) to little mosque on the prairie, they've come a long way and we have put the shafia trial right thru the roof bless you blatch we've come a long way.

And the best of men because you have to love them. They hold solid. They stand with their women.

We will together drag each other into the new world.

Or Allah be damned in the process...

I wonder some days my friend how this will all work out. I just hope whoever is above is going ok lets give her a chance because she seems like she wants to be ok....omg she posted what??

and I can still make it....

I hope that at the end of it all without crashing and burning into each others lives we can be ok at the end of it all.

Of course then there is r dean..........

we gotta talk about some.....

 

[tinydancer]

What if elephants could fly?

Way to avoid the question.

What if my Aunt had testicles?

That would be Aunt Barbara. No shit. I remember her from hockey camp.

Body slams.

Hip checks. My dad said she sucked and I had to deek her out.

Hockey prepared me for punk rock.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

You'd think that they'd approve of birth control on those grounds, as it WOULD prevent abortions.

But with these radical "personhood" idiots who say that a zygote is a human, what else do you expect?

What you think the Church should be or not be is irrelevant.

Reading comprehension Cali Twit.......apparently that's a foreign concept to you as I didn't say anything about what the church should or shouldn't be.

As usual, your posts lack anything of substance, just lame ass insults and bullshit.

As if your opinion of referring to the church as radical "personhood" idiots is not meant to be an insult, you want to point out your view of Cali's comment as being one? How's that for hypocrisy.

 

[ABikerSailor]

What you think the Church should be or not be is irrelevant.

Reading comprehension Cali Twit.......apparently that's a foreign concept to you as I didn't say anything about what the church should or shouldn't be.

As usual, your posts lack anything of substance, just lame ass insults and bullshit.

As if your opinion of referring to the church as radical "personhood" idiots is not meant to be an insult, you want to point out your view of Cali's comment as being one? How's that for hypocrisy.

Stick around......watch her post.........in about a week you'll see that she's pretty limited in her responses.

 

[Luissa]

I wonder if they will cover Viagra, and reproduction services for men?

 

[ABikerSailor]

I wonder if they will cover Viagra, and reproduction services for men?

They already do.

But then again, men can't have abortions, so their reproductive health is a non issue and allowed.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Seems they need to clean up their own backyard and let contraceptives prevent abortions.

You'd think that they'd approve of birth control on those grounds, as it WOULD prevent abortions.

But with these radical "personhood" idiots who say that a zygote is a human, what else do you expect?

question;you do realize how simple and cheap it is to acquire or practice birth control....right?

I don't understand this either, except to say this is the just an example of Federal "Big" Government flexing it's arm to see how far they can get into dictating what everyone else ought to do or support. If your views don't happen to agree with this new form of Obamacare it doesn't really matter, Government feels they have a right to enforce THEIR views on the rights of every American's value of beliefs. Had Government (under a pro-life president) dictated that abortions would no longer be covered in women's health care under the administrations belief the unborn ought to have constitutional rights as well, that we should all compromise on this, I'm sure the outcry would be from the left demanding their position be recognized and upheld.

 

[sealybobo]

I just realized that this issue is just another example of how the GOP creates a crisis and then they try to make themselves the victims in the controversy that they created in the first place. Its about controlling the message.

Woman want their right to choose. This is the right attacking women's rights, no more no less. I think most women should and would vote against that.

 

[Full-Auto]

I just realized that this issue is just another example of how the GOP creates a crisis and then they try to make themselves the victims in the controversy that they created in the first place. Its about controlling the message.

Woman want their right to choose. This is the right attacking women's rights, no more no less. I think most women should and would vote against that.

Dip shit. Obama created the crisis.

Then because of the uproar thinks forcing insurance to give it away free is the answer.

Are all of you guys this stupid?

 

[ABikerSailor]

You'd think that they'd approve of birth control on those grounds, as it WOULD prevent abortions.

But with these radical "personhood" idiots who say that a zygote is a human, what else do you expect?

question;you do realize how simple and cheap it is to acquire or practice birth control....right?

I don't understand this either, except to say this is the just an example of Federal "Big" Government flexing it's arm to see how far they can get into dictating what everyone else ought to do or support. If your views don't happen to agree with this new form of Obamacare it doesn't really matter, Government feels they have a right to enforce THEIR views on the rights of every American's value of beliefs. Had Government (under a pro-life president) dictated that abortions would no longer be covered in women's health care under the administrations belief the unborn ought to have constitutional rights as well, that we should all compromise on this, I'm sure the outcry would be from the left demanding their position be recognized and upheld.

What about the women who are hired by either the colleges or by the hospitals to work there who doesn't have Catholic beliefs, and therefor thinks that birth control is okay?

Is it fair for the Catholic church to force their workers to share their beliefs?

 

[SFC Ollie]

Well, it kind of does.

What if Catholics claimed pedophilia was part of their religion?

What if elephants could fly?

Way to avoid the question.

It's not a valid question Ravi. We are not dealing with what ifs, we are dealing with the actual fact that the first amendment may be under attack.

Now I am not a very religious person, and I am not a catholic, but I'll be damned if i will allow the constitution to be broken. And this may be doing it.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Who have been the most outspoken against women's reproductive health lately? White men. We even have a candidate who seems to maybe into making women keep the baby of their rapist. So yes I have a problem with white men right now, they seem to have a problem with me.

Yep, I am racist against white men. I will freely admit it. I guess it is in defense of them hating women. And is the bishop white or black?
And tell me, are they still covering Viagra on their health plans? And did they not cover for their own when they were molesting children? I know they sure did here.
I guess you don't like women calling it how it is.

OK RDEAN, what the fuck does black and white have to do with it? Come in here a day late and throw the fucking race card, are you fucking kidding me? Damn luissa I thought you were smarter than that.

I have little doubt that there are many catholic women who use birth control and have even had abortions. That doesn't mean that the church should change what it preaches. And it doesn't mean that the government should force it to break its doctrine.

 

[The T]

Who have been the most outspoken against women's reproductive health lately? White men. We even have a candidate who seems to maybe into making women keep the baby of their rapist. So yes I have a problem with white men right now, they seem to have a problem with me.

OK RDEAN, what the fuck does black and white have to do with it? Come in here a day late and throw the fucking race card, are you fucking kidding me? Damn luissa I thought you were smarter than that.

I have little doubt that there are many catholic women who use birth control and have even had abortions. That doesn't mean that the church should change what it preaches. And it doesn't mean that the government should force it to break its doctrine.

Been saying it for days now. Good form. True. Obama doesn't have the power to impose it besides.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

This is good for the president. It puts him on the right side of the issue at every level,

birth control in general, making birth control available, and being the one willing to compromise vs. some scary extremists in the bowels of the Catholic church hierarchy.

In what way was birth control NOT available for those who desired to receive it? Also, do you honestly think that this move of "free contraception" by the Federal Government, will prevent those in poverty from having even MORE kids if it means their "bread and butter" coming from the government (on the backs of other, more responsible taxpayers)?

 

[California Girl]

question;you do realize how simple and cheap it is to acquire or practice birth control....right?

I don't understand this either, except to say this is the just an example of Federal "Big" Government flexing it's arm to see how far they can get into dictating what everyone else ought to do or support. If your views don't happen to agree with this new form of Obamacare it doesn't really matter, Government feels they have a right to enforce THEIR views on the rights of every American's value of beliefs. Had Government (under a pro-life president) dictated that abortions would no longer be covered in women's health care under the administrations belief the unborn ought to have constitutional rights as well, that we should all compromise on this, I'm sure the outcry would be from the left demanding their position be recognized and upheld.

What about the women who are hired by either the colleges or by the hospitals to work there who doesn't have Catholic beliefs, and therefor thinks that birth control is okay?

Is it fair for the Catholic church to force their workers to share their beliefs?

I love that you whine about my posts... and the repeat crap that has been pointed out hundreds of times already in this hyperbolic bullshit.... and that is.... absolutely no one is 'forced' to work for the Church.

If they have an issue with insurance policies provided by the Church, they are welcome to seek employment elsewhere.

Do less drugs, give your brain some time off... you might see a small, yet significant improvement in your cognitive abilities. It's worth a try.

 

[sealybobo]

This is good for the president. It puts him on the right side of the issue at every level,

birth control in general, making birth control available, and being the one willing to compromise vs. some scary extremists in the bowels of the Catholic church hierarchy.

In what way was birth control NOT available for those who desired to receive it? Also, do you honestly think that this move of "free contraception" by the Federal Government, will prevent those in poverty from having even MORE kids if it means their "bread and butter" coming from the government (on the backs of other, more responsible taxpayers)?

There is another way Obama is going to win votes from women. This would cost women on average an extra $800 a year. So the GOP are in favor of costing the average woman an extra $800 a year. Put that on a bumper sticker.

Secondly, hell yes this prevents a lot of births. Why else do you think right wing wackos care so much?

And the last point, which I'm sure will go over your conservative head. This is preventative medicine! A lot of poor women take advantage of the free contraceptives. Are you following this? Now if they had welfare babies, we would pay a lot more than $800 a year.

And while you righties want to force poor people to have babies, you are cutting them off from welfare and foodstamps?

Your side is cruel and doesn't make sense.