CDC: Only 50,000 Died from Covid Only, Not 836,000

[Hang on Sloopy]

They were alive before they caught COVID, dead afterwards

Most would have lived a decade or more if not for COVID

Do I have to start calling you Dr Rightwinger now?......................Most of these people probably looked liked Ruth Ginsburg the day before she croaked out

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

according to the CDC youre wrong,,

Not his fault. The CDC and Fauci scammed these cabbage headed fools

 

[pknopp]

Yes, covid was NOT AT ALL "the reason they died".

Facts not in evidence. Many died only after contracting covid. There is no discussing things with someone that does not believe that or simply decides to ignore it.

 

[Rigby5]

They were alive before they caught COVID, dead afterwards

Most would have lived a decade or more if not for COVID

Wrong.
Covid did not and can not do anything to at all hasten death.
And the over reactions by the immune system that can cause death, are easily treated to prevent them from causing dealth.

For example, with malaria.
The parasite is nasty and can eventually cause things like bone erosion after decades.
But that is not what normally kills people who die soon after contracting malaria.
The main immune system response to an attacking parasite like malaria, is fever.
By increasing the body temperature, that kills off most invading parasites.
But since malaria came from Africa, fever does not work.
And when it does not work, instead of the immune system giving up on fever, it double down.
It keeps increasing the fever until the patient dies.
So then one of the single most important treatments for malaria, is quinine, to shut down the immune system from causing fevers.
Quinine, (and its synthetic equivalents, like HCQ), are well known immuno suppressants which obviously can save lives and prevent death, when faced with possible lethal over active immune responses.

Do I need to keep up with this explanation?

 

[pknopp]

according to the CDC youre wrong,,

They did not say that. They said many had other issues also.

 

[progressive hunter]

Facts not in evidence. Many died only after contracting covid. There is no discussing things with someone that does not believe that or simply decides to ignore it.

you mean like the guy that died in a motorcycle wreck and was counted as a covid death??

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

As is so common here, as opposed to discussing the issue and addressing what I said you can only attack me. It's really quite juvenile.

Juvenile???????????????.OMG

You people were the ones shutting life down. Thank god half of us laughed at you and lived as normal as we could why you were pissing under your beds

 

[progressive hunter]

They did not say that. They said many had other issues also.

other issues that caused their deaths,,

 

[pknopp]

you mean like the guy that died in a motorcycle wreck and was counted as a covid death??

If that happened it was an extremely small number and I'm not even saying it happened.

 

[pknopp]

other issues that caused their deaths,,

They were living with those issues until contracting covid.

 

[Rigby5]

Facts not in evidence. Many died only after contracting covid. There is no discussing things with someone that does not believe that or simply decides to ignore it.

Yes that is a well known fact in evidence.
Covid can not leave the airways, so can not cause swollen hearts, fever, vomiting, filling the lungs with fluid, suffocation, or anything remotely dangerous.
Anyone who ever claims covid killed a single person, is just a liar.
The ONLY deaths come from immune system over reactions, all of which are easily and cheaply treatable with immuno suppressants.

 

[progressive hunter]

If that happened it was an extremely small number and I'm not even saying it happened.

well it did happen,, as well as many other cases just like it,,

better to have accurate stats than just say all of them are from covid,,

 

[pknopp]

Yes that is a well known fact in evidence.
Covid can not leave the airways, so can not cause swollen hearts, fever, vomiting, filling the lungs with fluid, suffocation, or anything remotely dangerous.
Anyone who ever claims covid killed a single person, is just a liar.
The ONLY deaths come from immune system over reactions, all of which are easily and cheaply treatable with immuno suppressants.

Thus sayeth Dr Rigby.

 

[progressive hunter]

They were living with those issues until contracting covid.

they were surviving,,

 

[citygator]

What does this chart say? Anyone?

 

[pknopp]

well it did happen,, as well as many other cases just like it,,

better to have accurate stats than just say all of them are from covid,,

786,000 people did not die in crashes with covid.

 

[pknopp]

they were surviving,,

Surviving is living. Covid pushed them over the edge.

 

[progressive hunter]

786,000 people did not die in crashes with covid.

never said they did,,

 

[Rigby5]

If that happened it was an extremely small number and I'm not even saying it happened.

Since the covid test used for the first 1.5 years could not distinguish between covid and flu, it is likely most of the deaths were flu and did not have covid at all.
At least half the 800,000 deaths then attributed to covid were likely flu in reality.
Notice how last year they attributed ZERO deaths to flu?

 

[progressive hunter]

Surviving is living. Covid pushed them over the edge.

so they were on the edge of death and one little flu pushed them over,, sounds like surviving to me,,