Cecil the Lion and the Cultural Perils of Internet Outrage

[boedicca]

The liberals are essentially the pro-hunting side now, being the liberals say public land should remain public land, meaning it stays open for hunting by the public. The conservatives want all public land be privatized, which would mean all hunting on it would be banned, unless you paid the new landowner. Under the GOP plan, hunting would become off-limits for the common man, much like as in the old feudal systems.

Hunting for sport is barbaric. Killing to thin the herds is too. Let's simply tell all the wild animals to take a pledge to only have sexual congress to create new life since, "Just say NO" worked so well to curtail drug use, and sexual activity outside of marriage.

Do you eat meat, poultry or fish?

 

[RKMBrown]

The liberals are essentially the pro-hunting side now, being the liberals say public land should remain public land, meaning it stays open for hunting by the public. The conservatives want all public land be privatized, which would mean all hunting on it would be banned, unless you paid the new landowner. Under the GOP plan, hunting would become off-limits for the common man, much like as in the old feudal systems.

Hunting for sport is barbaric. Killing to thin the herds is too. Let's simply tell all the wild animals to take a pledge to only have sexual congress to create new life since, "Just say NO" worked so well to curtail drug use, and sexual activity outside of marriage.

Hunting is a sport, ya moron.

 

[Moonglow]

Video at the site:
snip:
BY: David Rutz
July 31, 2015 8:40 am


MSNBC host Joe Scarborough ripped the media for bias in how it covers abortion immediately after an NBC News segment on the undercover Planned Parenthood videos aired on Morning Joe.

“Wow,” he said. “I’ve got to say of all the areas where I think there’s media bias, I think the greatest area is on this issue. I think most reporters do the best job they can do, and they try to be as fair as possible, but when it comes to the issue of abortion, there is the greatest built-in bias, and it is a completely cultural bias. It’s unintended.

But if the roles were reversed, we do this all the time but it’s true, and there was a group on the right doing what Planned Parenthood has done on the left, there would be indictments already going down.”

all of it here:
Scarborough Blasts Media Bias on Abortion Immediately After Seeing NBC Segment on Planned Parenthood Washington Free Beacon

Is there some reason that illogical conclusions by comparison is all you people have?

 

[Moonglow]

The liberals are essentially the pro-hunting side now, being the liberals say public land should remain public land, meaning it stays open for hunting by the public. The conservatives want all public land be privatized, which would mean all hunting on it would be banned, unless you paid the new landowner. Under the GOP plan, hunting would become off-limits for the common man, much like as in the old feudal systems.

Hunting for sport is barbaric. Killing to thin the herds is too. Let's simply tell all the wild animals to take a pledge to only have sexual congress to create new life since, "Just say NO" worked so well to curtail drug use, and sexual activity outside of marriage.

Do you eat meat, poultry or fish?

Only the ones from aborted babies...

 

[Moonglow]

The liberals are essentially the pro-hunting side now, being the liberals say public land should remain public land, meaning it stays open for hunting by the public. The conservatives want all public land be privatized, which would mean all hunting on it would be banned, unless you paid the new landowner. Under the GOP plan, hunting would become off-limits for the common man, much like as in the old feudal systems.

Hunting for sport is barbaric. Killing to thin the herds is too. Let's simply tell all the wild animals to take a pledge to only have sexual congress to create new life since, "Just say NO" worked so well to curtail drug use, and sexual activity outside of marriage.

Hunting is a sport, ya moron.

So is football and? Yet it tends to leave those endangered humans alone, to live yet another day...

 

[Moonglow]

Video at the site:
snip:
BY: David Rutz
July 31, 2015 8:40 am


MSNBC host Joe Scarborough ripped the media for bias in how it covers abortion immediately after an NBC News segment on the undercover Planned Parenthood videos aired on Morning Joe.

“Wow,” he said. “I’ve got to say of all the areas where I think there’s media bias, I think the greatest area is on this issue. I think most reporters do the best job they can do, and they try to be as fair as possible, but when it comes to the issue of abortion, there is the greatest built-in bias, and it is a completely cultural bias. It’s unintended.

But if the roles were reversed, we do this all the time but it’s true, and there was a group on the right doing what Planned Parenthood has done on the left, there would be indictments already going down.”

all of it here:
Scarborough Blasts Media Bias on Abortion Immediately After Seeing NBC Segment on Planned Parenthood Washington Free Beacon

This thread was a bout something else, until someone comparing apples to oranges tried to change the subject...

 

[theHawk]

we see where our societies priorities are. and it's IN the sewer. when a lion get more outrage than those videos

SNIP:
by Ian Tuttle July 30, 2015 6:38 PM @iptuttle


Walter Palmer, it turns out, is far from the only American who enjoys bloodsport. That irony is, of course, lost on the hordes to whom it applies — the thousands of Twitter users and Yelp posters and (non-digital) protesters who have shut down Palmer’s Minneapolis dental practice and forced him into hiding, all because he shot a prized Zimbabwean lion earlier this month.

The circumstances of Cecil the lion’s death are unclear. The Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force says that Palmer and his guides lured Cecil out of Zimbabwe’s Hwange National Park, that the company attempted to destroy the GPS collar Cecil wore as part of an Oxford University study, and that after being initially shot with a crossbow, Cecil limped along for some 40 hours before the group was able to track him down and kill him.

Zimbabwean police arrested, and released on bail, Palmer’s two guides, but in a statement earlier this week, Palmer denied the accusations. Rest assured: The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has opened an official investigation.

Poaching is heinous, and most people are, rightly, disinclined to slaughter a creature of beauty and might, even when it’s legal.
But the response to Palmer’s safari has gone beyond mere disapproval into abject rage. On Yelp he is a “gun-toting redneck murderer,” a “f***ing waste of sperm,” and “a true example of everything that is wrong in this world.”

Twitter users have fantasized about shooting him with his crossbow and murdering him with his dental implements. Actress Debra Messing called for his citizenship to be revoked, and Sharon Osbourne summed up the general mood with her usual modesty: “Walter Palmer is Satan.”

Interestingly, there has been outrage over the outrage. Conservatives complained that Cecil’s death received far more media attention than videos of Planned Parenthood’s gruesome abortion procedures and fetal organ-trafficking, while left-wing race activists complained that Cecil’s death had been more lamented than Sandra Bland’s.

Everyone, it seems, has a reason to be angry of late. It’s entirely possible to be upset about a dead lion and dead babies, or a dead lion and a dead woman in a Texas jail, or about all three. But surely their intuition is right. It certainly has precedent.

Note a story related by the Greek historian Plutarch in his Pericles: Caesar [Augustus] once, seeing some wealthy strangers at Rome, carrying up and down with them in their arms and bosoms young puppy-dogs and monkeys, embracing and making much of them, took occasion not unnaturally to ask whether the women in their country were not used to bear children; by that prince-like reprimand gravely reflecting upon persons who spend and lavish upon brute beasts that affection and kindness which nature has implanted in us to be bestowed on those of our own kind.

The last few days undoubtedly have shown that the moral priorities of a great many Americans are woefully inverted. The last few days undoubtedly have shown that the moral priorities of a great many Americans are woefully inverted.

It cannot go unremarked, though, that this latest episode follows April’s cyber-siege of the O’Connors of Walkerton, Ind., targeted for (hypothetically) objecting to catering a same-sex wedding out of their pizza shop, and June’s hysteria over Confederate symbols.

What can account for the spitting rage of, say, Yelp “reviewer” Bob H. of Beaverton, Ore., who warned Palmer today, “Keep your eyes open—someone is going to beat the living s**t out of you. I am just jealous it will not be myself!”?

In his famous book Amusing Ourselves to Death, Neil Postman writes of the pernicious effect of mass media:

ALL of it here:

Read more at: Cecil the Lion and the Cultural Perils of Internet Outrage National Review Online

Liberals have their pitchforks and nooses in hand. They won't be stopped until a white man hangs.

 

[WinterBorn]

Did she? Prove to me that all mothers knew their aborted babies were being sold for body parts!

They have the paperwork for the organ donors. The doctor in the video talked about them getting approval and the patients signing the paperwork.

 

[RKMBrown]

The liberals are essentially the pro-hunting side now, being the liberals say public land should remain public land, meaning it stays open for hunting by the public. The conservatives want all public land be privatized, which would mean all hunting on it would be banned, unless you paid the new landowner. Under the GOP plan, hunting would become off-limits for the common man, much like as in the old feudal systems.

Hunting for sport is barbaric. Killing to thin the herds is too. Let's simply tell all the wild animals to take a pledge to only have sexual congress to create new life since, "Just say NO" worked so well to curtail drug use, and sexual activity outside of marriage.

Hunting is a sport, ya moron.

So is football and? Yet it tends to leave those endangered humans alone, to live yet another day...

Humans are not endangered and neither are lions.

 

[theHawk]

It's the way our society has become. Constant outrage.

It's why I hate cell phones. It's 24/7 access to social media that keeps people angry. Has people 1500 miles away irate and outraged in the streets protesting....over local issues in other states.

But....the existence of a liberal is based on anger. It's like flies hovering over shit. They thrive on bitterness and anger.

Anger is driven by white christers who are losing their position and entitlement in America , hense fox "news"

Except when it's gay white atheists or downtrodden negros who aren't being handed a position and given more entitlements in America, hence MSNBC "news".

 

[Vigilante]

Did she? Prove to me that all mothers knew their aborted babies were being sold for body parts!

They have the paperwork for the organ donors. The doctor in the video talked about them getting approval and the patients signing the paperwork.

People sign paperwork all the time NOT READING OR UNDERSTANDING IT! Especially when you are now going into surgery in the next half hour... you stopping to READ the fine print?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

 

[WinterBorn]

Did she? Prove to me that all mothers knew their aborted babies were being sold for body parts!

They have the paperwork for the organ donors. The doctor in the video talked about them getting approval and the patients signing the paperwork.

People sign paperwork all the time NOT READING OR UNDERSTANDING IT! Especially when you are now going into surgery in the next half hour... you stopping to READ the fine print?

If someone signs donor paperwork, they pretty much know what is going to happen. Its not as if the woman made a decision between donating and having a funeral.

If someone signs the paperwork without reading the document, it is on them. Not on PP.

 

[Vigilante]

Did she? Prove to me that all mothers knew their aborted babies were being sold for body parts!

They have the paperwork for the organ donors. The doctor in the video talked about them getting approval and the patients signing the paperwork.

People sign paperwork all the time NOT READING OR UNDERSTANDING IT! Especially when you are now going into surgery in the next half hour... you stopping to READ the fine print?

If someone signs donor paperwork, they pretty much know what is going to happen. Its not as if the woman made a decision between donating and having a funeral.

If someone signs the paperwork without reading the document, it is on them. Not on PP.

That's what we are showing, women that do this have no idea what they have assigned to that dead baby!...Yes, I can just see PP saying, Sign this, it's just a formality for the operation! PLEASE!

 

[WinterBorn]

Did she? Prove to me that all mothers knew their aborted babies were being sold for body parts!

They have the paperwork for the organ donors. The doctor in the video talked about them getting approval and the patients signing the paperwork.

People sign paperwork all the time NOT READING OR UNDERSTANDING IT! Especially when you are now going into surgery in the next half hour... you stopping to READ the fine print?

If someone signs donor paperwork, they pretty much know what is going to happen. Its not as if the woman made a decision between donating and having a funeral.

If someone signs the paperwork without reading the document, it is on them. Not on PP.

That's what we are showing, women that do this have no idea what they have assigned to that dead baby!...Yes, I can just see PP saying, Sign this, it's just a formality for the operation! PLEASE!

Your fantasy is not an issue. If the women went in seeking an abortion, it would be stretch to claim that they would be concerned with what happened to the remains. But if you want to believe that they would be fine with killing a baby, but had to be tricked into donating its organs, that is up to you.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Did she? Prove to me that all mothers knew their aborted babies were being sold for body parts!

They have the paperwork for the organ donors. The doctor in the video talked about them getting approval and the patients signing the paperwork.

People sign paperwork all the time NOT READING OR UNDERSTANDING IT! Especially when you are now going into surgery in the next half hour... you stopping to READ the fine print?

If someone signs donor paperwork, they pretty much know what is going to happen. Its not as if the woman made a decision between donating and having a funeral.

If someone signs the paperwork without reading the document, it is on them. Not on PP.

It's still illegal to sell human body parts, so your point is moot anyway.

 

[WinterBorn]

Did she? Prove to me that all mothers knew their aborted babies were being sold for body parts!

They have the paperwork for the organ donors. The doctor in the video talked about them getting approval and the patients signing the paperwork.

People sign paperwork all the time NOT READING OR UNDERSTANDING IT! Especially when you are now going into surgery in the next half hour... you stopping to READ the fine print?

If someone signs donor paperwork, they pretty much know what is going to happen. Its not as if the woman made a decision between donating and having a funeral.

If someone signs the paperwork without reading the document, it is on them. Not on PP.

It's still illegal to sell human body parts, so your point is moot anyway.

But it is not illegal to donate. And it is not illegal to have either the donor or the recipient pay for the costs. This was never about profits.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Did she? Prove to me that all mothers knew their aborted babies were being sold for body parts!

They have the paperwork for the organ donors. The doctor in the video talked about them getting approval and the patients signing the paperwork.

People sign paperwork all the time NOT READING OR UNDERSTANDING IT! Especially when you are now going into surgery in the next half hour... you stopping to READ the fine print?

If someone signs donor paperwork, they pretty much know what is going to happen. Its not as if the woman made a decision between donating and having a funeral.

If someone signs the paperwork without reading the document, it is on them. Not on PP.

It's still illegal to sell human body parts, so your point is moot anyway.

But it is not illegal to donate. And it is not illegal to have either the donor or the recipient pay for the costs. This was never about profits.

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[WinterBorn]

They have the paperwork for the organ donors. The doctor in the video talked about them getting approval and the patients signing the paperwork.

People sign paperwork all the time NOT READING OR UNDERSTANDING IT! Especially when you are now going into surgery in the next half hour... you stopping to READ the fine print?

If someone signs donor paperwork, they pretty much know what is going to happen. Its not as if the woman made a decision between donating and having a funeral.

If someone signs the paperwork without reading the document, it is on them. Not on PP.

It's still illegal to sell human body parts, so your point is moot anyway.

But it is not illegal to donate. And it is not illegal to have either the donor or the recipient pay for the costs. This was never about profits.

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LMAO! You think charging $30 to $100 for tissue and organs is about making a profit??

Let me find the link I posted and I'll repost it for you.

 

[WinterBorn]

They have the paperwork for the organ donors. The doctor in the video talked about them getting approval and the patients signing the paperwork.

People sign paperwork all the time NOT READING OR UNDERSTANDING IT! Especially when you are now going into surgery in the next half hour... you stopping to READ the fine print?

If someone signs donor paperwork, they pretty much know what is going to happen. Its not as if the woman made a decision between donating and having a funeral.

If someone signs the paperwork without reading the document, it is on them. Not on PP.

It's still illegal to sell human body parts, so your point is moot anyway.

But it is not illegal to donate. And it is not illegal to have either the donor or the recipient pay for the costs. This was never about profits.

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From: Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

"We also asked experts in the use of human tissue for research about the potential for profit.Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository,” told us that“there’s no way there’s a profit at that price.”She continued in an email:

Sawyer, July 20: In reality, $30-100 probably constitutes a loss for [Planned Parenthood]. The costs associated with collection, processing, storage, and inventory and records management for specimens are very high. Most hospitals will provide tissue blocks from surgical procedures (ones no longer needed for clinical purposes, and without identity) for research, and cost recover for their time and effort in the range of $100-500 per case/block. In the realm of tissues for research $30-100 is completely reasonable and normal fee.



And another expert in the field:

"Jim Vaught, president of the International Society for Biological and Environmental Repositories and formerly the deputy director of the National Cancer Institute’s Office ofBiorepositories and Biospecimen Research, told us in an email that “$30 to $100 per sample is a reasonable charge for clinical operations to recover their costs for providing tissue.” In fact, he said, the costs to a clinic are often much higher, but most operations that provide this kind of tissue have “no intention of fully recovering [their] costs, much less making a profit.”"

And yet another expert:

"Carolyn Compton, the chief medical and science officer of Arizona State University’s National Biomarkers Development Alliance and a former director of biorepositories and biospecimen research at the National Cancer Institute, agreed that this was “a modest price tag for cost recovery.” Compton told us in an email: ”‘Profit’ is out of the question, in my mind.I would say that whoever opined about ‘profit’ knows very little about the effort and expense involved in providing human biospecimens for research purposes."