Church shootings, comparing armed parishioners vs. unarmed...you want them armed..saves lives...

[2aguy]

I am making a comparison of armed and unarmed church parishioners during mass shootings......

The Sikh shooting
The South Carolina Church shooting

vs.

The Colorado church shooting
The Oseola church shooting
Masaad Ayoobs church shooting report....

Which church shootings had a higher death count, the churches that were gun free zones or the churches that had armed parishioners? Can you guess?

 

[2aguy]

Some details to help you make your guess....

Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston church shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 9 dead)


vs.



Deputies Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense ( 0 dead)

6 Shot At New Life Church Gunman 2 Churchgoers Dead - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

Remember This SC Concealed Carrier Stops Mass Shooting During Church Service. No Casualties. ( 0 dead)

 

[2aguy]

No guns:

Sikh temple ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston ( 9 dead)



Parishioners with guns:

Osceola ( 0 dead )

New life ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

South Carolina shotgun guy ( 0 dead)

 

[The Irish Ram]

Well, our new UN gun control treaty prohibits any gun information or dialogue concerning guns on the internet. Up to a 2 million dollar fine, and jail time. It's just a matter of time before you either go to jail or forfeit your guns. Our constitutional rights no longer exist.

 

[Old Rocks]

So, the society you wish has us all packing in all places. No places of peace at all. I guess Somalia and those other dumps where everybody is against everybody is your idea of paradise. Oddly enough, I remember the '50's in this nation, when damned few packed, and most guns in homes were hunting rifles, not useless war guns. Had very little of the violence that we see today, where all too many seem to believe that their manhood is dependent on the artillery they pack, and how aggressive they act.

 

[Brain357]

I am making a comparison of armed and unarmed church parishioners during mass shootings......

The Sikh shooting
The South Carolina Church shooting

vs.

The Colorado church shooting
The Oseola church shooting
Masaad Ayoobs church shooting report....

Which church shootings had a higher death count, the churches that were gun free zones or the churches that had armed parishioners? Can you guess?

Way more people are killed in accidental shootings than mass shootings. Your solution to the problem is worse than the problem.

 

[Brain357]

Adelanto Father Arrested In Accidental Shooting Of 7-Year-OId Son CBS Los Angeles

Neighbors told Weingold the pastor got into an argument with someone outside the church, fired his weapon and struck the boy by accident. Police would not confirm this account but said the shooting was an accident.

 

[EverCurious]

Whoa... Simply having a gun on you does not automatically denote a lack of peace. No wonder you anti-gun folks are so freaked out...

 

[Brain357]

Police Man accidentally shot himself while sitting in church tried to act like he was fine FOX31 Denver

 

[2aguy]

Police Man accidentally shot himself while sitting in church tried to act like he was fine FOX31 Denver

Yes brain...we get it....accidents happen all the time....just look at falling deaths....10s of thousands each year......do we blame gravity for it......

Accidental gun deaths in 2013.....505....in a country of 320 million people....you should worry more about car accidents....in 2013 over 35,000

 

[2aguy]

And brain.....you should re read the number of lives lost when people did not have guns to stop the shooters....15 dead vs. only 2 when people carried guns on them.....if it saves just one life....right?

 

[2aguy]

Brain...you would serve humanity better if you addressed real problems with accidents...

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

guns, drowning and poisoning....

If you cared about people....you would push to ban the following...


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208


Accidental gun deaths 2013......505


2012...

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_09.pdf

Then by year accidental gun deaths going down according to CDC final statistics table 10 from 2010-2013...

2010...606
2011...591
2012...548
2013...505

 

[Brain357]

Police Man accidentally shot himself while sitting in church tried to act like he was fine FOX31 Denver

Yes brain...we get it....accidents happen all the time....just look at falling deaths....10s of thousands each year......do we blame gravity for it......

Accidental gun deaths in 2013.....505....in a country of 320 million people....you should worry more about car accidents....in 2013 over 35,000

Do you get there are more accidental gun deaths than mass shooting deaths? Your solution would endanger more people than the problem.

 

[Brain357]

Brain...you would serve humanity better if you addressed real problems with accidents...

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

guns, drowning and poisoning....

If you cared about people....you would push to ban the following...


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208


Accidental gun deaths 2013......505


2012...

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_09.pdf

Then by year accidental gun deaths going down according to CDC final statistics table 10 from 2010-2013...

2010...606
2011...591
2012...548
2013...505

And among other civilized countries accidental shootings is where we look really bad. Most countries have fewer intentional gun deaths than we have accidental.