Classic ignorant Trump hater...

Trump needs to get a much better handle on the issues. He was clearly unprepared and unable to answer Chris Wallace's question about how his tax plan would balance the budget. All he had to say was that an across-the-board cut of 15% imposed over three years (5% per year) would balance the budget in three years.

Also, in too many cases he does not do a good job of responding to attacks.

He needs to invest some time with a good debate coach. But first he must brush up on the issues.
Why waste time and money on a debate coach when these so-called "debates" are little more than juvenile name-calling rants? I would welcome a good, old fashioned debate. (i.e. a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.)

Watch the next Democratic debate. You'll see how reasonable adults do it..

Right.... A potential felon and a bum. Great choices.
Criminal charges for Hillary.....
18 U.S.C. § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material — provides, in part:

(a)Whoever, being an officer… of the United States, and by virtue of his office… becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
Yes, Hillary Clinton Did Commit a Crime … and She Should be Charged

A "Bum" in Bernie..
Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money
Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check.
“I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first real job as mayor of Burlington.

One of his first jobs was registering people for food stamps, and it was all downhill from there.

Sanders took his first bride to live in a maple sugar shack with a dirt floor, and she soon left him. Penniless, he went on unemployment. Then he had a child out of wedlock. Desperate, he tried carpentry but could barely sink a nail. “He was a shi**y carpenter,” a friend told Politico Magazine. “His carpentry was not going to support him, and didn’t.”

Then he tried his hand freelancing for leftist rags, writing about “masturbation and rape” and other crudities for $50 a story. He drove around in a rusted-out, Bondo-covered VW bug with no working windshield wipers. Friends said he was “always poor” and his “electricity was turned off a lot.” They described him as a slob who kept a messy apartment — and this is what his friends had to say about him.

The only thing he was good at was talking … non-stop … about socialism and how the rich were ripping everybody off. “The whole quality of life in America is based on greed,” the bitter layabout said. “I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”

Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money

Great choices!

35 years as Burlington's Mayor, Vermont's Congressman and Senator, getting high marks in all three, defeating Democrats, Republicans, and even a joint candidate ---- highest approval rating of anyone in the Senate.

However --- no info found on which hand he wipes his ass with, so perhaps your services are still required.

You know your fixation with ass wiping is the prelude to Coprophagia. Which is another way of describing your anal obsession.
 
Trump needs to get a much better handle on the issues. He was clearly unprepared and unable to answer Chris Wallace's question about how his tax plan would balance the budget. All he had to say was that an across-the-board cut of 15% imposed over three years (5% per year) would balance the budget in three years.

Also, in too many cases he does not do a good job of responding to attacks.

He needs to invest some time with a good debate coach. But first he must brush up on the issues.
Why waste time and money on a debate coach when these so-called "debates" are little more than juvenile name-calling rants? I would welcome a good, old fashioned debate. (i.e. a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.)

Watch the next Democratic debate. You'll see how reasonable adults do it..

Right.... A potential felon and a bum. Great choices.
Criminal charges for Hillary.....
18 U.S.C. § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material — provides, in part:

(a)Whoever, being an officer… of the United States, and by virtue of his office… becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
Yes, Hillary Clinton Did Commit a Crime … and She Should be Charged

A "Bum" in Bernie..
Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money
Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check.
“I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first real job as mayor of Burlington.

One of his first jobs was registering people for food stamps, and it was all downhill from there.

Sanders took his first bride to live in a maple sugar shack with a dirt floor, and she soon left him. Penniless, he went on unemployment. Then he had a child out of wedlock. Desperate, he tried carpentry but could barely sink a nail. “He was a shi**y carpenter,” a friend told Politico Magazine. “His carpentry was not going to support him, and didn’t.”

Then he tried his hand freelancing for leftist rags, writing about “masturbation and rape” and other crudities for $50 a story. He drove around in a rusted-out, Bondo-covered VW bug with no working windshield wipers. Friends said he was “always poor” and his “electricity was turned off a lot.” They described him as a slob who kept a messy apartment — and this is what his friends had to say about him.

The only thing he was good at was talking … non-stop … about socialism and how the rich were ripping everybody off. “The whole quality of life in America is based on greed,” the bitter layabout said. “I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”

Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money

Great choices!

35 years as Burlington's Mayor, Vermont's Congressman and Senator, getting high marks in all three, defeating Democrats, Republicans, and even a joint candidate ---- highest approval rating of anyone in the Senate.

However --- no info found on which hand he wipes his ass with, so perhaps your services are still required.

You know your fixation with ass wiping is the prelude to Coprophagia. Which is another way of describing your anal obsession.

Hey, I ain't the one who actually created a thread on which hand O'bama wipes his ass with.
 
I was never a Republican, and I am a lapsed Democrat. (With age comes wisdom.) I do not even live in the USA anymore, I live down under, (truth in advertising)
but as an American who served in the US military I understand the support for Trump.

I am not saying I agree with many of the statements he makes (I often wonder if he believes half of what he is saying?) but I get it.

Washington has failed the USA.

Both Dems and Republicans have failed.

They do not seem to get what happened during the GFC, they keep engaging in wars with no thought about how to win them, what victory really requires and means and they seem to have no clue how the American dream is down, not out, but down and being counted out by the referee of time, fate and history..

Both parties have failed the great American working and middle class, in different ways, but both are failing.

And so the Trump vote is a vote for anything other than the same old same old tired, elite, failing shit.

And I get that.

It is saying let's try anything else but the same old same old.

Because it just can't get any worse than what established politics, both left and right, have on offer.

I reckon in office, the guy might astonish.

He is not the tired political hack, and I reckon as Putin did for Russia, he might restore American confidence in itself. (Hopefully sans the Putin authoritarianism. But then Americans are far more immune to a "strong man" than most cultures in history, they will follow great leadership but they will not bend, bow or obey.)

I would not have said this even two months ago, but I think Trump would beat Hilary Clinton in a general election. And I think he is the only Republican (even if he is a Trumplican) who can.

He would turn it into a race of new ideas against a tired political hack who is owned and on the leash of established power.

And he would win.
Wow, maybe one has to leave the US to gain a sense of perspective. On this forum I've often noted that those that are supporting trump don't necessarily agree with his loudmouth bravado. He's just not the same old canned idiots.

It should be an interesting election, I've continually noted that people that I know who would never consider voting for trump will look you in the eye and say "unless he runs against Hillary". I have to admit I personally would never vote for Hillary, I'd vote for Stalin first. 6 months ago I'd have told you that between Hillary and Trump I would throw my vote away and vote third party or write in my own name. Now I don't know I still will never vote for Hillary but I might vote for Trump just to throw a wrench into the insanity that this country has become.


A vote for Trump is a vote to increase the insanity.A vote for the party whose hateful and fear filled rhetoric , along with right wing radio,created Trump, is the same.
So, given a choice, the Hildabeest or Trump, whose hateful and fear-filled rhetoric would you prefer?[/QUOTE]

Just to point out, there will be OTHER PARTIES running in this election. Most people don't realize this. You could vote for them. They are a choice too.
 
I was never a Republican, and I am a lapsed Democrat. (With age comes wisdom.) I do not even live in the USA anymore, I live down under, (truth in advertising)
but as an American who served in the US military I understand the support for Trump.

I am not saying I agree with many of the statements he makes (I often wonder if he believes half of what he is saying?) but I get it.

Washington has failed the USA.

Both Dems and Republicans have failed.

They do not seem to get what happened during the GFC, they keep engaging in wars with no thought about how to win them, what victory really requires and means and they seem to have no clue how the American dream is down, not out, but down and being counted out by the referee of time, fate and history..

Both parties have failed the great American working and middle class, in different ways, but both are failing.

And so the Trump vote is a vote for anything other than the same old same old tired, elite, failing shit.

And I get that.

It is saying let's try anything else but the same old same old.

Because it just can't get any worse than what established politics, both left and right, have on offer.

I reckon in office, the guy might astonish.

He is not the tired political hack, and I reckon as Putin did for Russia, he might restore American confidence in itself. (Hopefully sans the Putin authoritarianism. But then Americans are far more immune to a "strong man" than most cultures in history, they will follow great leadership but they will not bend, bow or obey.)

I would not have said this even two months ago, but I think Trump would beat Hilary Clinton in a general election. And I think he is the only Republican (even if he is a Trumplican) who can.

He would turn it into a race of new ideas against a tired political hack who is owned and on the leash of established power.

And he would win.
Wow, maybe one has to leave the US to gain a sense of perspective. On this forum I've often noted that those that are supporting trump don't necessarily agree with his loudmouth bravado. He's just not the same old canned idiots.

It should be an interesting election, I've continually noted that people that I know who would never consider voting for trump will look you in the eye and say "unless he runs against Hillary". I have to admit I personally would never vote for Hillary, I'd vote for Stalin first. 6 months ago I'd have told you that between Hillary and Trump I would throw my vote away and vote third party or write in my own name. Now I don't know I still will never vote for Hillary but I might vote for Trump just to throw a wrench into the insanity that this country has become.


A vote for Trump is a vote to increase the insanity.A vote for the party whose hateful and fear filled rhetoric , along with right wing radio,created Trump, is the same.
So, given a choice, the Hildabeest or Trump, whose hateful and fear-filled rhetoric would you prefer?

Just to point out, there will be OTHER PARTIES running in this election. Most people don't realize this. You could vote for them. They are a choice too.[/QUOTE]
While I do not disagree with you, who is able to motivate the electorate to vote for and put into office any representative of any other party? Trump is the closest thing we have to that "other". He's been smart enough to attempt to co-opt one of the parties most viable to win this horse race.
 
I was never a Republican, and I am a lapsed Democrat. (With age comes wisdom.) I do not even live in the USA anymore, I live down under, (truth in advertising)
but as an American who served in the US military I understand the support for Trump.

I am not saying I agree with many of the statements he makes (I often wonder if he believes half of what he is saying?) but I get it.

Washington has failed the USA.

Both Dems and Republicans have failed.

They do not seem to get what happened during the GFC, they keep engaging in wars with no thought about how to win them, what victory really requires and means and they seem to have no clue how the American dream is down, not out, but down and being counted out by the referee of time, fate and history..

Both parties have failed the great American working and middle class, in different ways, but both are failing.

And so the Trump vote is a vote for anything other than the same old same old tired, elite, failing shit.

And I get that.

It is saying let's try anything else but the same old same old.

Because it just can't get any worse than what established politics, both left and right, have on offer.

I reckon in office, the guy might astonish.

He is not the tired political hack, and I reckon as Putin did for Russia, he might restore American confidence in itself. (Hopefully sans the Putin authoritarianism. But then Americans are far more immune to a "strong man" than most cultures in history, they will follow great leadership but they will not bend, bow or obey.)

I would not have said this even two months ago, but I think Trump would beat Hilary Clinton in a general election. And I think he is the only Republican (even if he is a Trumplican) who can.

He would turn it into a race of new ideas against a tired political hack who is owned and on the leash of established power.

And he would win.
Wow, maybe one has to leave the US to gain a sense of perspective. On this forum I've often noted that those that are supporting trump don't necessarily agree with his loudmouth bravado. He's just not the same old canned idiots.

It should be an interesting election, I've continually noted that people that I know who would never consider voting for trump will look you in the eye and say "unless he runs against Hillary". I have to admit I personally would never vote for Hillary, I'd vote for Stalin first. 6 months ago I'd have told you that between Hillary and Trump I would throw my vote away and vote third party or write in my own name. Now I don't know I still will never vote for Hillary but I might vote for Trump just to throw a wrench into the insanity that this country has become.


A vote for Trump is a vote to increase the insanity.A vote for the party whose hateful and fear filled rhetoric , along with right wing radio,created Trump, is the same.
So, given a choice, the Hildabeest or Trump, whose hateful and fear-filled rhetoric would you prefer?

Just to point out, there will be OTHER PARTIES running in this election. Most people don't realize this. You could vote for them. They are a choice too.
While I do not disagree with you, who is able to motivate the electorate to vote for and put into office any representative of any other party? Trump is the closest thing we have to that "other". He's been smart enough to attempt to co-opt one of the parties most viable to win this horse race.[/QUOTE]

If you wanted change, you wouldn't choose Trump. His "change" is merely from on guy to another and that's enforced by the Constitution anyway.

The problem is that it's now about "motivating the electorate" (which I read as ENTERTAINING the electorate) and not about having policies that WORK and make the country FUNCTION.

Politics is now just one big entertainment factory. In order to do well you need to get into one of the two main parties in order to get sheep to automatically defend your every action no matter how good or bad, and bash the other guy.

What happened to democracy?
 

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