COLDER Greenland GAINS Ice In June – Media Silent

[frigidweirdo]

I think you missed the point. Warmers have been proclaiming on high that ice lose is a huge problem and Remember the poor polar bears were losing their habitat? Apparently they were lying.

Plus when there is ice lose, the MSM reports it ad nauseam. When there is the greatest increase ever in ice, it isn’t reported.

You don't understand the science behind it.

It's not abnormal at all. You get times where the ice spreads out a lot, but is very thin. This is different to having thick ice.

This doesn't mean the polar bears aren't losing their habitat at all.

Yes, the media reports these things badly. But you coming on here and getting the science wrong is THE SAME SHIT THE MEDIA IS DOING.

 

[gipper]

You don't understand the science behind it.

It's not abnormal at all. You get times where the ice spreads out a lot, but is very thin. This is different to having thick ice.

This doesn't mean the polar bears aren't losing their habitat at all.

Yes, the media reports these things badly. But you coming on here and getting the science wrong is THE SAME SHIT THE MEDIA IS DOING.

Who said it was abnormal? Not I.

If the ice is expanding, then naturally it means the habitat for polar bears is too. Warmers have claimed for a long time their habitat is shrinking. Apparently not so.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Who said it was abnormal? Not I.

If the ice is expanding, then naturally it means the habitat for polar bears is too. Warmers have claimed for a long time their habitat is shrinking. Apparently not so.

You seem to be equating more surface ice with a colder Arctic.

The reality is the habitat probably is shrinking. This is what I'm telling you.

You have a thinner layer of snow and ice, that means there's less water. Where is this water? In the ocean.

And the habitat for polar bears, it's still disappearing.

 

[DudleySmith]

I wonder if anybody born after 1970 or so even knows why it was named 'Greenland'. lol

 

[gipper]

You seem to be equating more surface ice with a colder Arctic.

The reality is the habitat probably is shrinking. This is what I'm telling you.

You have a thinner layer of snow and ice, that means there's less water. Where is this water? In the ocean.

And the habitat for polar bears, it's still disappearing.

The ice is expanding but the habitat is shrinking. That’s nonsensical.

 

[Grumblenuts]

So is reading quackery.

 

[gipper]

So is reading quackery.

Could you please provide proof that the DMI are quacks?

 

[ding]

And CO2 was 300 ppm, not 280 ppm. Hmmmm...................

What's your point?

Prior to the industrial revolution CO2 served as a proxy for temperature. After the industrial revolution that correlation was broken.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Could you please provide proof that the DMI are quacks?

Who knew you were such a fan?

The increase in melting from the Greenland Ice Sheet that has been observed in the latest decade is highly influenced by the weather patterns, which can bring warm southern air up to Greenland. In the same manner there is also a signifiocant influence from weather and wind on the sea ice in the Arctic.

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[wamose]

Many of the people who have purple hair and think they can buy health at the organic vitamin store are also climate alarmists. They'll believe anything, no matter how far fetched, as long as it is proposed by someone from their side. These people can't be taken seriously.

 

[skookerasbil]

And CO2 was 300 ppm, not 280 ppm. Hmmmm...................

But nobody cares about the ppm........nobody. Maybe some folks on community message boards and on college campuses. Nowhere else. Its been that way for well over 15 years now.

Again, you can have all the science in the world.......if nobody is caring, it has no impact outside the field. Which is hasnt........ever. If it has no impact on energy policy, its irrelevant. Not even debatable.

By 2040, renewables wont even be at 15% of providing grid electricity to America. Not my opinion......so says the US Govt EIA....Ive posed up their projection graphs every year for many years now. They go basically unchanged. Fossil fuels dominate waaaaaaaaaaaaay out to 2050.

So the kibutzing about the ppm is kinda silly, no? I mean.....c'mon now! Its a hobby for people who dont have enough to do except obsess on prolific levels of silly. Indeed, its a mental disorder......called OCD. The public at large could not possibly be any less interested in climate change..........a niche concern.

For example.......who does nobody give a shit about the forest fires in California? Well.....its because the whole planet knows it has nothing to do with global warming and everything to do with the environmental k00ks shutting down effective forest management. People arent st00pid......nowhere else in the world do we get millions of acres of forests burning down ( every 6 months like clockwork) except in California. People say to themselves, "Fcuk those assholes.....let the place burn to the ground!". A handful might not like to hear that but thats the way it is.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The ice is expanding but the habitat is shrinking. That’s nonsensical.

It is if you don't understand.

August | 2021 | Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis

You can see from the third picture from the bottom that the average Arctic sea ice extent is dropping every year.

The reality is if you put one months August snow on the Arctic, it doesn't make up for the years and years and years of snow and ice that has been lost.

If you have a 1 cm layer of snow and ice, that's different to one meter.

 

[MisterBeale]

Hey Warmers check it out. Record smashing snow fall in SUMMER!!!! Largest ice gain EVER!!!!

You won’t find this news reported anywhere in the MSM. Do you now admit you’ve been duped?

Greenland just GAINED a Record-Smashing amount of Snow and Ice - Electroverse

 

[Old Rocks]

If there was a bit more snow, it hardly makes up for this;

 

[Old Rocks]

Ice Sheets Today

About Ice Sheets Today

nsidc.org

 

[skookerasbil]

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Ice Sheets Today

About Ice Sheets Today

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See but nobody cares about this stuff.........Ive seen graphs and maps, highly colorful btw, posted up in here for over 10 years. They move nobody. But......but......the public sees mega snow/ice storm reports in the headlines and the global warming concerns disappear in the public at large. The folks who make energy policy know it too!

Again, this stuff is all about the optics.......the science hardly matters. Will be the same way......5........10.......20 years from now. That will change only if we see Canada have a 3 week hot snap in mid-January with lots and lots of photos of bikini-clad babes tanning on the shore of some lake and jet-skiing om rivers in Manitoba. Not a moment sooner. In other words, something significant, not as determined by the climate obsessed.

Its always about the optics!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Todays graph is stunning from DMI...

 

[Sunsettommy]

Your link is to a pseudo-science conspiracy theory website. The reason the MSM is silent on this event is because it never happened.

Principia Scientific International (PSI) - Bias and Credibility

CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence.

mediabiasfactcheck.com

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What has happened is that one glacier gained a small amount of ice but overall, the melting continues unchecked.

A Greenland glacier is growing. That's not good news

A pulse of cooler water at its edge let part of the glacier gain some mass. But overall, the melting across Greenland continues apace.

www.nationalgeographic.com

I missed this typical warmist/alarmist deflection because they can't handle the content of the article as it is well above their ability to understand it.

Post one article remains unchallenged

 

[Rigby5]

Principia Scientific International

COLDER Greenland GAINS Ice In June – Media Silent

Published on June 15, 2020

Written by Cap Allon

Excerpt:

The month of June is breaking records across the Greenland ice sheet, and not records for warmth and melt –as the mainstream media have trained you to expect– but new benchmarks for COLD and GAINS.

The SMB gains occurring right now across Greenland are truly astonishing.

Data-driven FACTS reveal vast regions to the south have been GAINING RECORD/NEAR-RECORD LEVELS of snow & ice all month.

Never before in June has the Greenland ice sheet grown by more than 4 Gigatons in a single day (since 1981 when DMI records began), but now the past week has gone and delivered two such days — June 3, and now yesterday, June 10.

In fact, yesterday’s gains actually neared 5 Gts — you can see from the chart below how anomalous that gain is for the time of year:

LINK

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CO2 must be pooped out up there, Jack Frost refuses to stand down!

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[ding]

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