Colorado baker told to bake that cake

[HeyNorm]

Shush, the grownups are talking.



Or kind of reasonable. They protect people from discrimination based on gender, race, national origin, religion, disability or sexual orientation.

True, as a white, able-bodied, cis-gendered, straight, male, I don't need protections from discrimination, but I can see where protecting everyone else is a good idea.


Not really. In fact, the reconstruction amendments were specifically designed to protect the rights of black people.

Why do you have to point out your sexuality Joe. Someone confident in his/her identity would never do so……,

Or so I’ve read on this site.

 

[HeyNorm]

I have no idea what Antifa has to do with anything I've said.

I thought most church goers were badasses?

 

[pknopp]

I thought most church goers were badasses?

I have no idea what you think and why.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Very confusing.

Tee hee hee, you find hating on others so much fun it's infectious!
I see you've developed a fan club now of likeminded adolescents!

 

[HeyNorm]

I have no idea what you think and why.

Well, according to you, many churches are full of haters, right?

Or do you think anyone who disagrees with you is a hater?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Protected classes are a violation of the Equal Protection clause.

Silly.

The clause is not intended to provide equality among individuals or classes but only equal application of the law. The result of a law, therefore, is not relevant so long as there is no discrimination in its application.

Or, removing the double negative,
The result of a law, therefore, is relevant so long as there is discrimination in its application.

 

[pknopp]

Well, according to you, many churches are full of haters, right?

Right.

Or do you think anyone who disagrees with you is a hater?

You can try and convince me that I'm wrong in seeing what this baker did as hate and not the love of God. I was never led to run people off.

 

[HeyNorm]

Right.



You can try and convince me that I'm wrong in seeing what this baker did as hate and not the love of God. I was never led to run people off.

So a ford dealer that doesn’t offer corvettes is a hater? I’d stay home 24/7 cuz damn………..

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Silly.

Or, removing the double negative,
The result of a law, therefore, is relevant so long as there is discrimination in its application.

you cannot have equal application of the law if one groups gets more protection than a different group.

 

[JohnDB]

It is basically a question of whether an independent business is a conscript of the state or not.

Custom cake making is the question at hand even if religion is part of the equation.

Forcing a business to make anything is conscription.

 

[pknopp]

It is basically a question of whether an independent business is a conscript of the state or not.

Custom cake making is the question at hand even if religion is part of the equation.

Forcing a business to make anything is conscription.

It's baking a cake which they already make. The idea is they can't discriminate. The person they discriminated against pay taxes for the services the business operates under. They pay for the police protection. They pay for the fire protection. They pay for the roads and sidewalks to the business.

Why the hate?

 

[Ralph Norton]

Shush, the grownups are talking.

Don't flatter yourself.

 

[HeyNorm]

It's baking a cake which they already make. The idea is they can't discriminate. The person they discriminated against pay taxes for the services the business operates under. They pay for the police protection. They pay for the fire protection. They pay for the roads and sidewalks to the business.

Why the hate?

As does the Baker, plus even more expenses.

Why the hate?

 

[JohnDB]

It's baking a cake which they already make. The idea is they can't discriminate. The person they discriminated against pay taxes for the services the business operates under. They pay for the police protection. They pay for the fire protection. They pay for the roads and sidewalks to the business.

Why the hate?

I understand the arguments...

But as a former bakery owner I can say that the reputation of his entire business is at stake here. People buy from him because of his relationship with the customers, his style of decorating, and his reputation.

And basically the state is telling him that they want to flush all of those things down the toilet....that his business is actually theirs despite having no personal financing or investment in his shop.

Small business like these pay collectively more in taxes than anyone else....

Even if it's Thanksgiving, a bakery is not required to bake pumpkin pies no matter how foolish or prejudiced that decision might be. And having the state force them to create a menu of the state's choosing is the very definition of conscription.

Who in their right mind wants a custom made cake baked under duress?

Thus man's business was targeted...pure and simple. And independent bakeries are pig headed and stubborn people to start with. (I'm one that is that very much in alignment)
Nobody tells me what I will or won't make in my bakery. I will have the final say in the matter even if I have to do time.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Does Jesus talk like....or post like.....the good poster Lassy?

He'd like "good for you"

Now stop trolling, Chinchilla

 

[pknopp]

As does the Baker, plus even more expenses.

Why the hate?

I don't hate. I'm trying to understand the hate.

 

[HeyNorm]

I don't hate. I'm trying to understand the hate.

Aren’t we all?

The most hate has been expressed by Joe though, who fails to understand that, even though straight people didn’t want the right to marry others of the same sex, the LBGTQ forced it on us. But now we have a financial planning tool no one ever thought of before.

 

[pknopp]

I understand the arguments...

But as a former bakery owner I can say that the reputation of his entire business is at stake here. People buy from him because of his relationship with the customers, his style of decorating, and his reputation.

And basically the state is telling him that they want to flush all of those things down the toilet....that his business is actually theirs despite having no personal financing or investment in his shop.

Small business like these pay collectively more in taxes than anyone else....

Even if it's Thanksgiving, a bakery is not required to bake pumpkin pies no matter how foolish or prejudiced that decision might be. And having the state force them to create a menu of the state's choosing is the very definition of conscription.

Who in their right mind wants a custom made cake baked under duress?

Thus man's business was targeted...pure and simple. And independent bakeries are pig headed and stubborn people to start with. (I'm one that is that very much in alignment)
Nobody tells me what I will or won't make in my bakery. I will have the final say in the matter even if I have to do time.

Baking a pink cake with blue frosting is going to ruin his entire reputation as a baker?

Seriously?

 

[pknopp]

Aren’t we all?

No, I don't believe so.

 

[jasonnfree]

After all is said and done, I would never force some one in the food business to make something against his will. He might spit in the food or worse.