Compared to capitalism, what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.
Amazon is no Golden Goose

NYC doesn’t need them
These deals always workout bad for the taxpayer.
As Amazon builds up its distribution network, it’s hit on a trick long practiced by the likes of Walmart: using the federal government to help pay its workers. A new study by Policy Matters Ohio found that more than 700 Amazon employees receive food stamps, or more than 10 percent of the tech giant’s 6,000-strong workforce in the state. Some of those recipients may be part-time help, but the fact that they need federal aid to survive suggests that they would be happy to work more. “Why is this giant, successful company offering such limited pay and hours of work that many of its workers need help buying food?” asked Zach Schiller, research director at Policy Matters.

Amazon Is Thriving Thanks to Taxpayer Dollars


This stupid shit again?

If you don't like welfare, take action. Any "foodstamps" (you can tell the demagogues when they use terms 30 years out of date) workers get is due to federal and state programs.

Or are you one of those "free market" types who seeks a $15 an hour minimum wage?
 
So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
I'd need to know what countries you consider socialist.

Do France, Germany, England, Canada and Australia count as socialist for you? They certainly have more socialist elements than we do.
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Do they control the means of production?

Outside of medical (malpractice) "care" they do not.
I agree. But the word is used so frivolously at this point, that a working definition would be helpful.
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The democrats wish to portray the European nations as "socialist" in order to put lipstick on the pig. After the financial meltdown of 2008, Europe went on a program of "Austerity." As a result, Finland, the beloved example the Stalinist democrats hold out as to why Marxism is really best, actually is LESS of a welfare state than the USA is.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
New and exciting ways of murdering the populace. Over 100 million dead and counting.

The democrats have 340 million potential victims they are just ITCHING to get going on. Yes, they will START by genocide of white men, but they sure won't stop there...
 
Stalinists? Nazis?

You're talking about DICTATORS

We can all agree that distators suck. Odd that you support Trump. He LOVES dictators and attacks leaders of Democratic governments

As far as Socialism

Socialism is the government ownership of the means of production.

Clearly that is not our system

Oh...some say that socialism is the ownership "or regulation" of the means of production.

Well we all agree that regulation is required. Doctors being licensed for instance is regulation. That makes it socialism. Food being manufactured in a safe manner is regulation. Clearly necessary and according to that definition...that is socialism

So what we're really saying is NOT that "SOCIALISM" is inherently bad but rather...how much socialism is required to mitigate the excesses of capitalism.

Doesn't sound nearly as scary in that more accurate context...does it.

WE are a hybrid socialist nation NOW dumass...have been at least since the 30s...actually in some ways longer
 
Stalinists? Nazis?

You're talking about DICTATORS

We can all agree that distators suck. Odd that you support Trump. He LOVES dictators and attacks leaders of Democratic governments

As far as Socialism

Socialism is the government ownership of the means of production.

Clearly that is not our system

Oh...some say that socialism is the ownership "or regulation" of the means of production.

Well we all agree that regulation is required. Doctors being licensed for instance is regulation. That makes it socialism. Food being manufactured in a safe manner is regulation. Clearly necessary and according to that definition...that is socialism

So what we're really saying is NOT that "SOCIALISM" is inherently bad but rather...how much socialism is required to mitigate the excesses of capitalism.

Doesn't sound nearly as scary in that more accurate context...does it.
 
So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
I'd need to know what countries you consider socialist.

Do France, Germany, England, Canada and Australia count as socialist for you? They certainly have more socialist elements than we do.
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Do they control the means of production?

Outside of medical (malpractice) "care" they do not.
I agree. But the word is used so frivolously at this point, that a working definition would be helpful.
.

The democrats wish to portray the European nations as "socialist" in order to put lipstick on the pig. After the financial meltdown of 2008, Europe went on a program of "Austerity." As a result, Finland, the beloved example the Stalinist democrats hold out as to why Marxism is really best, actually is LESS of a welfare state than the USA is.
Well, they call it "Democratic Socialism", which seems like a dumb term to use.

At the same time, though, the Right is pretending that the Democrats want us to be like Venezuela, which is also silly.

We're never going to have a constructive conversation on this until we can agree on basic definitions. One thing for sure, though, is that the word is scaring fewer and fewer people. So at some point, the Right will need to come up with a smart and reasonable rebuttal. Just screaming SOCIALISM just won't be enough.
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The democrats have 340 million potential victims they are just ITCHING to get going on. Yes, they will START by genocide of white men, but they sure won't stop there...

Yea...let's get those racists all riled up and scared.

You're disgusting.

This is exactly the kind of shit the Russians pushed in 2016.

Push racism...fears of SOCIALISM...homophobia

ANYTHING to stir shit up and get Americans at each others throats.

If you are not a Russian troll...you might as well be. You're doing the same thing
 
How many of those advancements in the US have come from state-funded research, like the Internet, for example?

Say Comrade, didn't JC Licklider work for Bell Labs, a PRIVATE company? Didn't Transmission Protocol come from IBM, a PRIVATE company? In fact, didn't Vince Cerf state flat out that he merely REFINED the protocol to add an inter nodal stack (IP) rather than "create it?"

Isn't 100% of the switching and transmission media private? Wasn't it always?
 
Stalinists? Nazis?

You're talking about DICTATORS

We can all agree that distators suck. Odd that you support Trump. He LOVES dictators and attacks leaders of Democratic governments

As far as Socialism

Socialism is the government ownership of the means of production.

Clearly that is not our system

Oh...some say that socialism is the ownership "or regulation" of the means of production.

Well we all agree that regulation is required. Doctors being licensed for instance is regulation. That makes it socialism. Food being manufactured in a safe manner is regulation. Clearly necessary and according to that definition...that is socialism

So what we're really saying is NOT that "SOCIALISM" is inherently bad but rather...how much socialism is required to mitigate the excesses of capitalism.

Doesn't sound nearly as scary in that more accurate context...does it.

DICTATORS, yes - the goal of the democrats.

democrats ARE a Stalinist party. The goal of current democrats is to recreate the Soviet Union in America. Frankly, you never got over the fall.

Licensing is hardly government control of the means of production, moron.
 
You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.
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Jesus was a liberal socialist you dolt


Yes fucktard, Jesus was a department head for the Social Justice bureau of the Roman government. :eusa_whistle:

You have it all figured out, stupid fuck.
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Stalinists? Nazis?

You're talking about DICTATORS

We can all agree that distators suck. Odd that you support Trump. He LOVES dictators and attacks leaders of Democratic governments

As far as Socialism

Socialism is the government ownership of the means of production.

Clearly that is not our system

Oh...some say that socialism is the ownership "or regulation" of the means of production.

Well we all agree that regulation is required. Doctors being licensed for instance is regulation. That makes it socialism. Food being manufactured in a safe manner is regulation. Clearly necessary and according to that definition...that is socialism

So what we're really saying is NOT that "SOCIALISM" is inherently bad but rather...how much socialism is required to mitigate the excesses of capitalism.

Doesn't sound nearly as scary in that more accurate context...does it.

DICTATORS, yes - the goal of the democrats.

democrats ARE a Stalinist party. The goal of current democrats is to recreate the Soviet Union in America. Frankly, you never got over the fall.

Licensing is hardly government control of the means of production, moron.
So now we have switched from saying that socialism is an inherent evil to idiot claims that Dems are wannabe dictators.

Thanks for your bullshit opinion.

Your hatred and hyperbole concerning "your enemy" is well noted
 
Compared to capitalism, what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

Death, privation, oppression, ignorance, pestilence...
 
That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.
Amazon is no Golden Goose

NYC doesn’t need them

Da Comrade.

50,000 jobs from vile capitalist pigs cannot be allowed in GLORIOUS peoples city..

Then why does Amazon need tax incentives to come?
 
Yet, they stole their space and missile technology from a capitalist country, Germany. Or from us, as in the case of China.

But I will give them credit for the AK-47. That is one magnificent piece of machinery.


According to most Trumbots, Nazi Germany was socialist.

BTW - The U.S. missile and space programs were initially developed by German scientists as well.
Wrong moron.

According to the doctrine of nazism it was socialist.

Nazism is NATIONAL socialism communism is INTERNATIONAL socialism

Clinging to the lie that Nazism is somehow different than the Stalinism they follow is vital to the Communists. In fact, the governments of Hitler and Stalin were virtually identical, as will the the government that democrats impose on an enslaved America should they gain enough power.
They were quite different: read up on the subject.

But fast-forward today, Trump now thinks he's in germany 80 years ago.

You didn't bother to read what you cited, the Wiki article confirms what I said - you Stalinists are identical to Nazis.

Let's looks at Nazis with you democrat Stalinists?

Violent hatred of non-party members?
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Concentration Camps?
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Violent suppression of opposition ideas?
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Use of Brown Shirt type thugs?
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Oppression of religion?
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Totalitarian?
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Violent oppression of free speech?
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Newspeak is an utterly useless Bolshevik hate rag. I don't bother with them or ThinkProgress.
Wow, cool post.

180° out from reality, but cool post.
 
You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.
Amazon is no Golden Goose

NYC doesn’t need them
These deals always workout bad for the taxpayer.
As Amazon builds up its distribution network, it’s hit on a trick long practiced by the likes of Walmart: using the federal government to help pay its workers. A new study by Policy Matters Ohio found that more than 700 Amazon employees receive food stamps, or more than 10 percent of the tech giant’s 6,000-strong workforce in the state. Some of those recipients may be part-time help, but the fact that they need federal aid to survive suggests that they would be happy to work more. “Why is this giant, successful company offering such limited pay and hours of work that many of its workers need help buying food?” asked Zach Schiller, research director at Policy Matters.

Amazon Is Thriving Thanks to Taxpayer Dollars


This stupid shit again?

If you don't like welfare, take action. Any "foodstamps" (you can tell the demagogues when they use terms 30 years out of date) workers get is due to federal and state programs.

Or are you one of those "free market" types who seeks a $15 an hour minimum wage?
Anything less than a living wage is a government subsidy for the business.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
They made it into orbit before we did, and China plans on having a moon base before long, far ahead of us.

Next stupid question.
Lol
Who finances any sort of socialism on this planet?... Certainly not the socialists.... lol
 
So now we have switched from saying that socialism is an inherent evil to idiot claims that Dems are wannabe dictators.

Thanks for your bullshit opinion.

Your hatred and hyperbole concerning "your enemy" is well noted

Oh sorry, had I failed to state flat out that democrats are Stalinists? Did I fail to point out the war the democrats wage on civil rights, crushing freedom of speech, freedom of religion, imprisoning of news reporters under Obama, not one has been imprisoned under Trump - 19 under Obama, yet you Stalinist pigs lie that TRUMP attacks freedom of the press? :lol:

The attacks on the 2nd are legendary. An armed populace will interfere with final solution you have for the "white problem.". Your attacks on the 4th amendment, even going so far as spying on the opposition in a presidential election as part of the plot by Obama to rig the election.

democrat leaders seek dictatorship, look at California. Where you evil scum gain power, freedom is soon lost.

And like always, you Stalinists have plans.

{
George Ciccariello-Maher, associate professor of political science, tweeted on Christmas Eve, “All I Want for Christmas is White Genocide.” Backlash at the comment, which he framed as a joke, soon prompted Drexel officials to intervene. The tweet was deleted and Mr. Ciccariello-Maher’s account was locked from further public viewing.

“While the University recognizes the right of its faculty to freely express their thoughts and opinions in public debate, Professor Ciccariello-Maher’s comments are utterly reprehensible, deeply disturbing, and do not in any way reflect the values of the University,” Drexel said in a statement Sunday afternoon, The Daily Caller reported. “The University is taking this situation very seriously. We contacted Ciccariello-Maher today to arrange a meeting to discuss this matter in detail.”

The Daily Caller noted that Mr. Ciccariello-Maher’s defense of his tweet as a joke — “white isn’t a race” — is belied by previous racial commentary.

“Yacub made a lot of white folks,” the professor tweeted Feb. 3, 2013, the website reported before his account was locked.

Nation of Islam theology claims white people were created as a “race of devils” by the scientist.


“Abolish the White Race” the professor also tweeted June 8, 2015, the website reported.}

George Ciccariello-Maher, Drexel professor, calls for ‘white genocide’ on Christmas
 

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