Compared to capitalism, what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

[Wyatt earp]

You atill fail to demonstrate any comprehension of what a coup is

Here's the simple version. An ILLEGAL and usually sudden and violent overthrow of a leader/government.

Now, the US has the 25th amendment and other Constitutional clauses that provide the LEGAL framework for removing a leader. So far nothing, not even in the rumors has supported anything but a LEGAL move IF evidence were to substantiate their beliefs.

Sure, in Russia, they don't have those LEGAL avenues, so if you are a Russian that would be a coup in your country. In Iran and North Korea, the same.

Some people I guess would rather we take the pages out of their books than our own Constitution.

your ignorance is on full display for the world, huh newbie?


Impeachment in Russia - Wikipedia


In accordance with the current Russian legislation, the removal from office of the President are regulated by article 93 of the Constitution.[1] It provides for indictment by the State Duma, should be accompanied by the opinion of the Supreme Court of Russia and Constitutional Court of Russia on observance of prescribed procedure for charging. The decision to impeach the President accepts the Federation Council.

The decision of the State Duma on bringing charges and the decision of the Federation Council on dismissal of the President from office must be adopted by two-thirds of the total number in each of chambers (300 and 114 respectively) on the initiative of not less than one third (150) of deputies of the State Duma and with the conclusion of the special Commission formed by the State Duma. The decision of the Federation Council on impeachment of the President of the Russian Federation from office must be adopted not later than within three months after the extension of the State Duma of the charges against the President. If within this period the Federation Council's decision is not accepted, charges against the President shall be considered rejected.

 

[rightwinger]

They made it into orbit before we did, and China plans on having a moon base before long, far ahead of us.

Next stupid question.

Making it into orbit is producing something?
Plans mean what?

You've never been very bright

Next stupid answer,

No soup for you

You think the space program has no benefits?

No, that was Obama who thought that. He did come up with the idea of putting the first Muslim in space, but shortly thereafter defunded NASA.

That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

 

[francoHFW]

I am not here to defend communism which is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry. A failure.

Socialism is no longer looked at as USSR communism since it was discovered that there was absolutely no democracy involved. After World War II socialism has meant fairc capitalismwith a good safety net and always democratic, except in Cold War conservative propaganda more and more.

Today socialism has given us all modern countries except the United States,and probably the final solution to man's government problems. When we get Healthcare we will be socialist, barely...."We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when Obamacare passed.

 

[JGalt]

Making it into orbit is producing something?
Plans mean what?

You've never been very bright

Next stupid answer,

No soup for you

You think the space program has no benefits?

No, that was Obama who thought that. He did come up with the idea of putting the first Muslim in space, but shortly thereafter defunded NASA.

That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.

 

[dudmuck]

You think the space program has no benefits?

No, that was Obama who thought that. He did come up with the idea of putting the first Muslim in space, but shortly thereafter defunded NASA.

That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.

Other business will occupy the same space, without the commensurate drain on municipal service funding.

 

[rightwinger]

You think the space program has no benefits?

No, that was Obama who thought that. He did come up with the idea of putting the first Muslim in space, but shortly thereafter defunded NASA.

That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.

Amazon is no Golden Goose

NYC doesn’t need them

 

[Brain357]

No, that was Obama who thought that. He did come up with the idea of putting the first Muslim in space, but shortly thereafter defunded NASA.

That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.

Amazon is no Golden Goose

NYC doesn’t need them

These deals always workout bad for the taxpayer.
As Amazon builds up its distribution network, it’s hit on a trick long practiced by the likes of Walmart: using the federal government to help pay its workers. A new study by Policy Matters Ohio found that more than 700 Amazon employees receive food stamps, or more than 10 percent of the tech giant’s 6,000-strong workforce in the state. Some of those recipients may be part-time help, but the fact that they need federal aid to survive suggests that they would be happy to work more. “Why is this giant, successful company offering such limited pay and hours of work that many of its workers need help buying food?” asked Zach Schiller, research director at Policy Matters.

Amazon Is Thriving Thanks to Taxpayer Dollars

 

[Crepitus]

That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.

Amazon is no Golden Goose

NYC doesn’t need them

These deals always workout bad for the taxpayer.
As Amazon builds up its distribution network, it’s hit on a trick long practiced by the likes of Walmart: using the federal government to help pay its workers. A new study by Policy Matters Ohio found that more than 700 Amazon employees receive food stamps, or more than 10 percent of the tech giant’s 6,000-strong workforce in the state. Some of those recipients may be part-time help, but the fact that they need federal aid to survive suggests that they would be happy to work more. “Why is this giant, successful company offering such limited pay and hours of work that many of its workers need help buying food?” asked Zach Schiller, research director at Policy Matters.

Amazon Is Thriving Thanks to Taxpayer Dollars

I've been hammering on that for years, but nobody seems to understand.

 

[Mac1958]

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

I'd need to know what countries you consider socialist.

Do France, Germany, England, Canada and Australia count as socialist for you? They certainly have more socialist elements than we do.
.

Do they control the means of production?

Outside of medical (malpractice) "care" they do not.

I agree. But the word is used so frivolously at this point, that a working definition would be helpful.
.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

New and exciting ways of murdering the populace. Over 100 million dead and counting.

 

[sparky]

Compared to capitalism, what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

that depends on one's definition

for example, right now China seems to be doing one hellova stroke 'o business.

folks call them a communist country

~S~

its not ones definition.......... its the way they walk today and what they were 50 years ago....


Is China a Capitalist or Communist Country?




Is China a Capitalist or Communist Country?



So, after the enormous economic and social changes he unleashed can we best describe China as a Communist country with a veneer of market economics or is it a capitalist country with a nominally Communist government? Perhaps it is both: ‘state capitalism’ with a framework of Communist party rule. Deng himself was pragmatic: ‘What does it matter what is the color of the cat provided it catches mice’. He was also a gradualist - ‘crossing the river by feeling for the stones’ – interested in results rather than dogma or doctrine.

China has gone a long way to becoming a market – capitalist – economy. It has opened up to foreign investment (much more than, say, India). Its firms compete internationally and invest overseas. Some Chinese entrepreneurs like Jack Ma have global recognition. Day to day economic life operates through markets and farmers have greater (but not complete) ownership rights. There is a sophisticated stock exchange and capital markets.

Good one Bear

One might view China as a globalist dream .....no regs, no unions, and one can drag middle management out behind the barn for a bad 1/4

~S~

 

[SweetSue92]

Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

Gulags.

Famines.

Death marches.

 

[georgephillip]

Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, t

How many of those advancements in the US have come from state-funded research, like the Internet, for example?

 

[Uncensored2008]

They made it into orbit before we did, and China plans on having a moon base before long, far ahead of us.

Next stupid question.

Yet, they stole their space and missile technology from a capitalist country, Germany. Or from us, as in the case of China.

But I will give them credit for the AK-47. That is one magnificent piece of machinery.

According to most Trumbots, Nazi Germany was socialist.

BTW - The U.S. missile and space programs were initially developed by German scientists as well.

Wrong moron.

According to the doctrine of nazism it was socialist.

Nazism is NATIONAL socialism communism is INTERNATIONAL socialism

Clinging to the lie that Nazism is somehow different than the Stalinism they follow is vital to the Communists. In fact, the governments of Hitler and Stalin were virtually identical, as will the the government that democrats impose on an enslaved America should they gain enough power.

They were quite different: read up on the subject.

But fast-forward today, Trump now thinks he's in germany 80 years ago.

You didn't bother to read what you cited, the Wiki article confirms what I said - you Stalinists are identical to Nazis.

Let's looks at Nazis with you democrat Stalinists?

Violent hatred of non-party members?

Concentration Camps?

Violent suppression of opposition ideas?

Use of Brown Shirt type thugs?

Oppression of religion?

Totalitarian?

Violent oppression of free speech?

Newspeak is an utterly useless Bolshevik hate rag. I don't bother with them or ThinkProgress.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I am not here to defend communism which is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry. A failure.

Socialism is no longer looked at as USSR communism since it was discovered that there was absolutely no democracy involved. After World War II socialism has meant fairc capitalismwith a good safety net and always democratic, except in Cold War conservative propaganda more and more.

Today socialism has given us all modern countries except the United States,and probably the final solution to man's government problems. When we get Healthcare we will be socialist, barely...."We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when Obamacare passed.

The ONLY reason you are here is to promote and defend Communism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, that was Obama who thought that. He did come up with the idea of putting the first Muslim in space, but shortly thereafter defunded NASA.

That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.

Other business will occupy the same space, without the commensurate drain on municipal service funding.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, that was Obama who thought that. He did come up with the idea of putting the first Muslim in space, but shortly thereafter defunded NASA.

That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.

Amazon is no Golden Goose

NYC doesn’t need them

Da Comrade.

50,000 jobs from vile capitalist pigs cannot be allowed in GLORIOUS peoples city..

 

[Lesh]

Stalinists? Nazis?

You're talking about DICTATORS

We can all agree that distators suck. Odd that you support Trump. He LOVES dictators and attacks leaders of Democratic governments

As far as Socialism

Socialism is the government ownership of the means of production.

Clearly that is not our system

Oh...some say that socialism is the ownership "or regulation" of the means of production.

Well we all agree that regulation is required. Doctors being licensed for instance is regulation. That makes it socialism. Food being manufactured in a safe manner is regulation. Clearly necessary and according to that definition...that is socialism

So what we're really saying is NOT that "SOCIALISM" is inherently bad but rather...how much socialism is required to mitigate the excesses of capitalism.

Doesn't sound nearly as scary in that more accurate context...does it.

 

[rightwinger]

That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.

Amazon is no Golden Goose

NYC doesn’t need them

These deals always workout bad for the taxpayer.
As Amazon builds up its distribution network, it’s hit on a trick long practiced by the likes of Walmart: using the federal government to help pay its workers. A new study by Policy Matters Ohio found that more than 700 Amazon employees receive food stamps, or more than 10 percent of the tech giant’s 6,000-strong workforce in the state. Some of those recipients may be part-time help, but the fact that they need federal aid to survive suggests that they would be happy to work more. “Why is this giant, successful company offering such limited pay and hours of work that many of its workers need help buying food?” asked Zach Schiller, research director at Policy Matters.

Amazon Is Thriving Thanks to Taxpayer Dollars

To me, the whole thing stunk from the start

Amazon was having a sweepstakes to see who gets their HQ. Who would offer the most ?

The $27 billion revenue figure appears inflated. With tax incentives, how does Amazon manage to contribute $27 billion?

 

[Lesh]

That was one of my biggest gripes with him.

You should gripe more because we had to start piggy-backing on Russian and Chinese missiles, after NASA was shut down.

Our Space Program used to dominate ...bar none

But we sold out to Supply Side Economics and traded off for tax cuts for billionaires

Ask AOC, Bloomberg, and NYC how much they're going to miss the revenue from the tax cuts they were going to give Amazon. I think even they would disagree with you now.

Other business will occupy the same space, without the commensurate drain on municipal service funding.

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Jesus was a liberal socialist you dolt