Comparing the AR with other Legal Firearms

[Flash]

So you still want to be dishonest. So be it. But I want to see the AR and it's family regulated like the Thompson M1921.

Why?

The ARs sold to the public are not fully automatic like the Thompson.

By the way, the Thompson was not banned. You just had to pay a goddamn $200 tax to own one. Taxing Constitutional rights is illegal, isn't it?

 

[BoostedHayabusa]

I tried to get that little turd to tell me what was banned in the 1994 AWB that would result in a reduction in crime and he chickenshitted out because he had nothing.

He ain't worth shit.

who you talking about, gunnutter?

 

[BoostedHayabusa]

Yeah, the Armalite Rifle 15 certainly was.

The Colt AR 15 Sporter SP1 was not. Or else it wouldn’t have been certified as not a machine gun by the government.

What else ya got?

AR Assault Rifle weapon of the battle field. Own it

 

[BoostedHayabusa]

And yet, 5.56x45 isn't powerful enough to take a deer, so we can't hunt with an AR.
Laughing at you in 7.62x39
And x51
And x63

The .223 is perfect for the doctrine of killing the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible.

 

[AZrailwhale]

FAKE NEWS, do not trust this wanna be gunnutter!

Fact. Assault weapons are generally high-powered semiautomatic firearms where each round has up to four times the muzzle velocity of a handgun round. This means that each round from an assault weapon inflicts greater damage to the human body than a round from a typical handgun.

Wrong. What you call assault rifles fire what is called an intermediate cartridge which is far less powerful than a normal rifle cartridge.

 

[BoostedHayabusa]

Well lets just say this... As usual, when you can't defend your comments, you attack the person that challenges you.
Yep, this place is nothing but misinformed gunnutters.

 

[BoostedHayabusa]

Wrong. What you call assault rifles fire what is called an intermediate cartridge which is far less powerful than a normal rifle cartridge.

The .223 is perfect for the doctrine of killing the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible.

 

[BoostedHayabusa]

Gunnutters are just not that bright. Undereducated. More than likely Trump voters...
Don't fret GUNNUTTERS... Trump lovers you...

Ohh send some $$, he is going to need it in prison.

 

[AZrailwhale]

and these gunnutters claim the AR is underpowered...

It is, troops have complained about the 5.56’s lack of stopping power from the very beginning of its issue.

 

[Pete7469]

ARs killed a lot of children, and a lot of people.
I do not want to hear "but it was the shooter" "it was this" "it was that"

NO.
Your narrative is bunk

 

[Bell Huey]

Yeah, the Armalite Rifle 15 certainly was.

The Colt AR 15 Sporter SP1 was not. Or else it wouldn’t have been certified as not a machine gun by the government.

What else ya got?

BoostedHayabusa

 

[Pete7469]

Gunnutters are just not that bright. Undereducated. More than likely Trump voters...
Don't fret GUNNUTTERS... Trump lovers you...

Ohh send some $$, he is going to need it in prison.

 

[Bell Huey]

AR Assault Rifle weapon of the battle field. Own it

so tell me. When did the US Army issue the Colt AR 15 Sporter (SP1) as their personal weapon to carry into combat?

 

[AZrailwhale]

You are wrong. The damage is not caused by the caliber, it is caused by the velocity. At almost 3,000 fps a .223 round fired from an AR-15 is going to do much more damage than the same round fired from a rifle at a little over 1,000 fps.

You are ignorant. A 30.06 fired from an M-1 Garand goes 3200 fps and does far more damage than a .223 round. The damage is determined by mass times velocity and the fifty five grain .223 bullet has far less mass than the one hundred fifty to two hundred twenty grain 30.06 or the cone hundred eighty grain 7.62 NATO bullet.

 

[Bell Huey]

The .223 is perfect for the doctrine of killing the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible.

The U.S. military has long complained about the penetration capabilities of 5.56 mm ammunition, and now the Navy and the Corps are looking to remedy the issue with a new barrier-penetrating 5.56 round.

Navy and Marine Corps are dropping some money on barrier-penetrating 5.56 mm ammo

The new ammo can penetrate some barriers like auto windshields and doors.

www.marinecorpstimes.com

The smaller, steel-penetrating M855 rounds continue to be a weak spot in the American arsenal. They are not lethal enough to bring down an enemy decisively, and that puts troops at risk, according to Associated Press interviews.

U.S. bullets may be ill-suited for new wars

As Sgt. Joe Higgins patrolled the streets of Saba al-Bor, a tough town north of Baghdad, he was armed with bullets that had a lot more firepower than those of his 4th Infantry Division buddies.

www.nbcnews.com

U.S. infantry squads carrying 5.56 mm rifles and light machine guns currently face an overmatch. If those squads went into a firefight with Russian, Chinese or most Kalishnokov-wielding militants, they’d be outgunned in both distance and lethality.

Shooting farther with more punch: The Army finally found an M4 and SAW replacement

Soldiers, special operators and Marines in the near future will carry a first-of-its kind rifle and light machine gun.

www.armytimes.com

 

[Blues Man]

You are wrong. The damage is not caused by the caliber, it is caused by the velocity. At almost 3,000 fps a .223 round fired from an AR-15 is going to do much more damage than the same round fired from a rifle at a little over 1,000 fps.

OK so which rifle only fires a .223 round at a 1000 ft/sec velocity?

you are talking about a different round altogether.

Here are the muzzle velocities of the .223 round through different length barrels. You'll notice that in not a single barrel length was the velocity of the round 1000 ft/sec

 

[Bell Huey]

OK so which rifle only fires a .223 round at a 1000 ft/sec velocity?

you are talking about a different round altogether.

Here are the muzzle velocities of the .223 round through different length barrels. You'll notice that in not a single barrel length was the velocity of the round 1000 ft/sec

You are dealing with talking point minions.

 

[AZrailwhale]

OK so which rifle only fires a .223 round at a 1000 ft/sec velocity?

you are talking about a different round altogether.

Here are the muzzle velocities of the .223 round through different length barrels. You'll notice that in not a single barrel length was the velocity of the round 1000 ft/sec

I think he’s talking about a different caliber at 1,000 fps. But offhand I can’t think of any modern rifle that fires that slow. Even the 44.40 WCF which was essentially a pistol cartridge came in at 1190 fps. To drop below the 1000 fps in a modern firearm, I think you have to go to black powder as a propellant.

 

[Blues Man]

You are dealing with talking point minions.

Or people who like to think they know everything but never bother to fact check

 

[Blues Man]

I think he’s talking about a different caliber at 1,000 fps. But offhand I can’t think of any modern rifle that fires that slow. Even the 44.40 WCF which was essentially a pistol cartridge came in at 1190 fps. To drop below the 1000 fps in a modern firearm, I think you have to go to black powder as a propellant.

Of course he is. Only he doesn't know that.