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I didn't think about it as a kid and I wouldn't have known what fascist was- I just did it. Later in life, 15 or so years ago, when I became politically curious reflection came pretty easy- it does even today, which is the reason I started this thread (and many others)- as adults I would hope reflection is part and parcel to what we did and do- my first using the pledge as a tool, if you will, was during the Obama/Romney circus- the word patriotism was, and still is, thrown around a lot by both sides- it occurred to me, the pledge says to the Flag for which it stands- it say absolutely nothing about a Party or a person- the Republic is nothing even close to fascist, but Party and people are- I'm still not a fan of coerced allegiance though- this Republic, for which the Flag stands, was founded on the principles of inherent rights of man to act freely as he saw fit unless/until harm is caused to another by violating anothers inherent rights- Party and/or person are immaterial in determining patriotism. Period.never liked the pledge of allegiance- even as a kid- it always seemed to phony and Fascist like to demand that we kids repeat that we are good little citizens over and over.
I never needed any pledge of allegiance to be a patriotic American, and I never saw any purpose behind it other than brain washing. Teach kids why the ideals of America are important- don't just make them all repeat something that made old men feel like they were doing something patriotic.
America, this republic, not democracy, touts itself as being exceptional because of the freedom enjoyed- (that is for another confusing topic a bit later in the thread) - yet, both sides in the politics of personality don't want the others (whomever they may be) to have any say so about anything and want to force, often under the color of law, their beliefs, left or right- there is nothing exceptional about that, never mind freedom reflected- my point in using the pledge is that confusion starts early because, 1, we're not a Nation, and 2, we don't set the example of Liberty and Justice for all- we espouse it but we don't abide by it- that means we're hypocrites- that is the example set and examples are what's emulated by sponges for brains into adulthood and it obviously affects our Republic negatively, since we aren't really United-