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First bullshit, the fed can collect and distribute money any way it wants to, anyway that is decided by the representatives and correlated by the court. Your state garbage is garbage. as far as this issue is concerned.I would argue that staving off starvation is not in the Federal Government's autority. That is a State issue.1. That depends on where they live. I live in a semi-rural area outside of Richmond, Va, and 150K here would allow you to easily afford everything on that list except maybe secondary education, and that could be handled in other ways. It's not the government's responsibility, however, to pay for things that are nice to have but too expensive for many. Like I said, there are not too many who would argue against the government staving off starvation and death.If a family of 4 is making 150K, they aren't affording secondary educ and childcare, plus a house, cars, food, insurance .....And therein lies the rub. Very, very few would insist the government has no role in assisting those truly in need. The definition, though, of "in need" varies, from preventing starvation and death from easily treated diseases to guaranteeing free secondary education, childcare and transportation to those who could otherwise afford it on their own. Where you are on that spectrum drives the argument you make.Good God every civilized country in the world back to the time of the roman empire took care of the people in need. Only hate gets you to have people starve in front of you and only stupidity takes you to a position that you see anyone who wants to can get by for nothing from money from the government.I'll tell you what. When we get rid of the brain dead argument that the Federal Government is supposed to take care of people, we'll start a conversation on talking about how much someone or something should pay.Every comment on this forum that compares tax rate from country to country and suggest that's what is paid in those country's should not be allowed space on this forum/ It's not a opinion it's just a lie. That goes for every tax in this country. Personal and corporate. Allowing the rate to be the basis of a argument here is just plane nonsense. The only thing that counts is the reality of what they pay. I'm tired of the brain dead arguments from the right suggesting anything because of the rates and not the real rate they pay.
Deal?
2. Claiming a family of 4 making 150K is "in need" is not going to garner much support, I'm afraid.