Could all Religions Come Together?

[BS Filter]

Why did they do it?

During Vietnam they did it to draw attention to the evil of that conflict.
To save lives.

As opposed to the US doing the same with napalm.

I understand that. It's still pretty sick.

 

[ding]

Your religion is a lie.

By any objective measure religion has been a force for good.

 

[BreezeWood]

By any objective measure religion has been a force for good.

for those who have no remorse for their past crimes -

bing the christian ... how they long for their bible placed back in the class room. spirits are a terrible thing to waste ...

 

[Dadoalex]

I understand that. It's still pretty sick.

Uh huh...But killing children with napalm is just hunksy-doodles.

 

[Dadoalex]

By any objective measure religion has been a force for good.

That is a lie.

Told by the clerics to excuse the murders, rapes, genocide and other crimes endorsed by religion.

 

[ding]

That is a lie.

Told by the clerics to excuse the murders, rapes, genocide and other crimes endorsed by religion.

It a lie?

1. Religion provides answers to the origin questions.
2. Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness.
3. Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations. Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.
4. Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing.
5. Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity.
6. Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility.
7. Religion teaches accountability and responsibility.
8. Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.
9. Religion teaches that actions have consequences.
10. Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe.
11. Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature.
12. Religion helps us feel less alone in the world.
13. Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit.
14. Religion serves to bind the community together.
15. Religion inspires love, peace and happiness.
16. Religion serves to create traditions.
17. Religion brings order to our lives.
18. Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill.
19. Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed.
20. Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves.
21. Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
22. No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church.
23. Modern science was born in the Catholic Church.
24. Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market.
25. The Catholic Church invented the university.
26. Western law grew out of Church canon law.
27. The Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life.
28. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
29. Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians.
30. Religion gave us America.
31. Religion gave us incredible artwork.
32. Religion gave us incredible music.
33. Religion gave us incredible architecture.
34. Christianity has spread democracy.
35. Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
36. Christians rebuilt Europe and Japan after WWII.

 

[BS Filter]

Uh huh...But killing children with napalm is just hunksy-doodles.

I didn't say that. You did.

 

[Dadoalex]

It a lie?

1. Religion provides answers to the origin questions

1. Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness.
2. Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations. Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.
3. Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing.
4. Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity.
5. Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility.
6. Religion teaches accountability and responsibility.
7. Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.
8. Religion teaches that actions have consequences.
9. Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe.
10. Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature.
11. Religion helps us feel less alone in the world.
12. Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit.
13. Religion serves to bind the community together.
14. Religion inspires love, peace and happiness.
15. Religion serves to create traditions.
16. Religion brings order to our lives.
17. Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill.
18. Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed.
19. Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves.
20. Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
21. No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church.
22. Modern science was born in the Catholic Church.
23. Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market.
24. The Catholic Church invented the university.
25. Western law grew out of Church canon law.
26. The Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life.
27. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
28. Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians.
29. Religion gave us America.
30. Religion gave us incredible artwork.
31. Religion gave us incredible music.
32. Religion gave us incredible architecture.
33. Christianity has spread democracy.
34. Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
35. Christians rebuilt Europe and Japan after WWII.

It a lie?

1. Religion provides answers to the origin questions.
2. Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness.
3. Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations. Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.
4. Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing.
5. Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity.
6. Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility.
7. Religion teaches accountability and responsibility.
8. Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.
9. Religion teaches that actions have consequences.
10. Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe.
11. Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature.
12. Religion helps us feel less alone in the world.
13. Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit.
14. Religion serves to bind the community together.
15. Religion inspires love, peace and happiness.
16. Religion serves to create traditions.
17. Religion brings order to our lives.
18. Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill.
19. Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed.
20. Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves.
21. Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
22. No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church.
23. Modern science was born in the Catholic Church.
24. Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market.
25. The Catholic Church invented the university.
26. Western law grew out of Church canon law.
27. The Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life.
28. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
29. Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians.
30. Religion gave us America.
31. Religion gave us incredible artwork.
32. Religion gave us incredible music.
33. Religion gave us incredible architecture.
34. Christianity has spread democracy.
35. Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
36. Christians rebuilt Europe and Japan after WWII.

"
It a lie?

1. Religion provides answers to the origin questions."

You mean guys came from a lump of clay and women from a rib?

Yeah, lies mean to fool the ignorant.

 

[Dadoalex]

I didn't say that. You did.

And...you are a liar.

 

[ding]

"
It a lie?

1. Religion provides answers to the origin questions."

You mean guys came from a lump of clay and women from a rib?

Yeah, lies mean to fool the ignorant.

No. That God created existence (aka the universe) and man arose from that creation.

 

[ding]

And...you are a liar.

But you did say that.

 

[Dadoalex]

No. That God created existence (aka the universe) and man arose from that creation.

Ohhh you mean this God guy showed up 14B years ago and POOF...the universe as it exists popped into existence?

And then God waited 13,999,993,000 more years and created Adam?

Of course you're wrong
We know how the earth came into being
We've a pretty good approximation of the geography from 5 billion years ago
We know of evolution...

The lies told by religion to explain what they could not understand are just that, lies.

 

[Dadoalex]

But you did say that.

And you are a liar, LIAR.

 

[ding]

Ohhh you mean this God guy showed up 14B years ago and POOF...the universe as it exists popped into existence?

And then God waited 13,999,993,000 more years and created Adam?

Yep, that's exactly it. It's not a coincidence the universe popped into existence hardwired to produce life and intelligence. It was preordained through the laws of nature which existed before space and time were created.

 

[ding]

Of course you're wrong
We know how the earth came into being
We've a pretty good approximation of the geography from 5 billion years ago
We know of evolution...

The lies told by religion to explain what they could not understand are just that, lies.

We know the universe was created from nothing. It literally popped into existence and started to expand and cool.

In it's simplest form the first two chapters of Genesis tells us in allegorical fashion that God created existence and that the world ancient men lived in was part of a process and not created all at once. And that man AROSE from that creation. That doesn't compete with the theory of BIOLOGICAL evolution, it compliments the theory of BIOLOGICAL evolution.

Evolution is anything which moves from a lower state to a higher state; a less advanced state to a more advanced state; a less complex state to a more complex state. There have been 5 stages of evolution of space and time; cosmic evolution, stellar evolution, chemical evolution, biological evolution and evolution of consciousness.

In his book, "The Phenomenon of Man" Pierre Teilhard de Chardin describes evolution as a process that leads to increasing complexity, culminating in a Christ consciousness. He limited his observations to biological evolution but the same observation can be made about all stages of the evolution of space and time. The complexification of matter increased until it naturally and logically made the leap to the next stage. The last and final stage of evolution of space and time is consciousness. So it seems logical that consciousness would also increase in complexity until it to made the leap to the next stage which Chardin describes as Christ consciousness.

1. The universe began as a soup of subatomic particles and radiation and naturally and logically complexified into hydrogen and helium. This is what is called the cosmic stage of the evolution of space and time.
2. Hydrogen and helium then naturally and logically complexified into structures like stars and galaxies. This is what is called the stellar stage of the evolution of space and time.
3. From the life cycle of galaxies and stars all of the other elements and compounds were naturally and logically formed. This is what is called the chemical stage of the evolution of space and time.
4. As chemical evolution naturally and logically complexified the leap to biological life was made. This is what is called the biological stage of the evolution of space and time.
5. As life logically and naturally evolved and complexified the leap to consciousness was made. This is what is called the conscious stage of of the evolution of space and time.

So we can see that each successive stage of the evolution of space and time complexified until it made the leap to the next stage. And it did so naturally and logically. So Chardin's assumption that consciousness will make the leap to a Christ consciousness is logical because it presumes that consciousness will evolve and complexify and make the leap to the next level because every other stage of the evolution of space and time did so too before it.

 

[ding]

And you are a liar, LIAR.

Nope. I read your post.

But I really do love how every argument you make is a moral argument. You are like a walking poster board for proof of God's existence.

 

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[Dadoalex]

Yep, that's exactly it. It's not a coincidence the universe popped into existence hardwired to produce life and intelligence. It was preordained through the laws of nature which existed before space and time were created.

Laws of nature never existed until the universe itself existed.
Read your bible.

6 days = 14 billion years?

The universe EVOLVED
The Earth EVOLVED
Life has EVOLVED

No old guy sitting on a cloud required.

 

[Dadoalex]

We know the universe was created from nothing. It literally popped into existence and started to expand and cool.

In it's simplest form the first two chapters of Genesis tells us in allegorical fashion ...

You mean someone made up a story to explain what they could not understand. A falsehood. A fabrication. A collection of lies.

Thank you.

 

[Dadoalex]

Nope. I read your post.

But I really do love how every argument you make is a moral argument. You are like a walking poster board for proof of God's existence.

Liar

Morality does not require the existence of a deities.
Just the understanding that we all are just people, wanting the same things.
Peace, security, acceptance.

But if you'd like to discuss God's morality
Raped a virgin
Murdered all the people in 2 towns for displeasing him
Murdered a woman for not obeying him
Tortured his most loyal follower....

God, what a guy!