Could TSA pat downs spread STDs?

[DiveCon]

This is just getting silly.

It STARTED silly. Now it's getting ridiculous.

and its getting damn close to utter stupidity

 

[syrenn]

I wonder how many men are going to try and convince their wives that they got the clap from a TSA pat down on their way to vegas and not from the stripper/hooker in Vegas?

I am sure that will fly.

Pun intended.

I dont think you can get STD's from the tsa's grubby hands.....but you sure as hell can get lots of nasty bugs!


As to vegas... i am more concerned about that filthy floor they want you to walk on after you take your shoes off! Have you been through vegas? Its a petri dish of nasty stuff.

simple solution, wear socks

oh, and i've seen surgical booties available at the airports should you want something more

I do wear socks and want to burn them before i put my feet back in my shoes. DFW and Tampa are the only airports that i have been through that offer them.

 

[syrenn]

I wonder how many men are going to try and convince their wives that they got the clap from a TSA pat down on their way to vegas and not from the stripper/hooker in Vegas?

I am sure that will fly.

Pun intended.

I dont think you can get STD's from the tsa's grubby hands.....but you sure as hell can get lots of nasty bugs!


As to vegas... i am more concerned about that filthy floor they want you to walk on after you take your shoes off! Have you been through vegas? Its a petri dish of nasty stuff.

I was being facetious about the STDs. I think it's hilarious that people would freak out about getting a SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED disease through a pat down. I think some people's neurosis are showing.

Haven't been to vegas. Been to plenty a seedy bar/strip joint in NOLA and now in the hospital I am far from a germaphobe. Even HIV and HepC don't scare me since you see so many patients with them. The only but that does scare me is TB and we see that more than I think people realize.

LOL, knowing you i sorta knew what your take on all of this would be. I am not worried about HIV or Hep being transfered by the tsa.

TB is back with a vengeance so is pertussis.

 

[Ravi]

No search is unreasonable if it is looking for weapons? The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

The SCOTUS reverses 28 years of unreasonable searches - The Broadside : Colorado Springs Gazette, CO

This just backs up my point...the tsa is tasked to look for weapons and bombs but they are not allowed to "find" evidence of garden variety crimes.

How does it back up your point that any search for weapons is reasonable when it says that some weapons searches are unreasonable? That used to be the police line for searching a car you were driving while being arrested, and it no longer flies.

The police can pull you over if you are breaking the law...but they can't search for evidence of another crime without suspicion. They can also have random road blocks to check for drunk driving...but then they can also not search your car to find other crimes. The TSA falls somewhat into the second scenario.

 

[Ravi]

Go to the airport and watch a security line from outside the airport. Take pictures if you want, it is acceptable under TSA policy. The local goons probably do not know the policy so you might want a copy of it with you when you go.

The TSA Blog: Can I Take Photos at the Checkpoint and Airport?

After doing this for a while come back here and tell me I am wrong. Until then, you have no idea what really happens, just like you had no idea random searches were occurring at all.

have you done this?

at the airports i have been in recently(Portland, ME, Atlanta, GA, Los Angeles, CA, Detroit, MI) not one of them had visual access to the security area from OUTSIDE the building

You can go up to the security area and watch in some airports. Failing that, you can always get there early, and watch from the other side of security. Most airports make it hard to film screening areas, but it is not impossible.

I'm sure that would go over big with the tsa and get you on a no fly list.

 

[Ravi]

This is just getting silly.

Getting?

 

[DiveCon]

have you done this?

at the airports i have been in recently(Portland, ME, Atlanta, GA, Los Angeles, CA, Detroit, MI) not one of them had visual access to the security area from OUTSIDE the building

You can go up to the security area and watch in some airports. Failing that, you can always get there early, and watch from the other side of security. Most airports make it hard to film screening areas, but it is not impossible.

I'm sure that would go over big with the tsa and get you on a no fly list.

given his last post, i wonder how long it has been since he has actually been IN an airport?

 

[Ravi]

You can go up to the security area and watch in some airports. Failing that, you can always get there early, and watch from the other side of security. Most airports make it hard to film screening areas, but it is not impossible.

I'm sure that would go over big with the tsa and get you on a no fly list.

given his last post, i wonder how long it has been since he has actually been IN an airport?

If ever.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

You can go up to the security area and watch in some airports. Failing that, you can always get there early, and watch from the other side of security. Most airports make it hard to film screening areas, but it is not impossible.

I'm sure that would go over big with the tsa and get you on a no fly list.

given his last post, i wonder how long it has been since he has actually been IN an airport?

Actually, if you go to the East Terminal at STL Lambert, the meet and greet area for Southwest is right next to the TSA security area. I spent many an hour there waiting for someone, and watching the security show. Nobody ever came up to me and asked what I was doing.

But I'm sure if I had pulled out a camera it would have been a completely different story.

By the way, the security area is clearly visible from the outside through the floor to ceiling windows they have.

 

[DiveCon]

I'm sure that would go over big with the tsa and get you on a no fly list.

given his last post, i wonder how long it has been since he has actually been IN an airport?

Actually, if you go to the East Terminal at STL Lambert, the meet and greet area for Southwest is right next to the TSA security area. I spent many an hour there waiting for someone, and watching the security show. Nobody ever came up to me and asked what I was doing.

But I'm sure if I had pulled out a camera it would have been a completely different story.

By the way, the security area is clearly visible from the outside through the floor to ceiling windows they have.

ah, not in the airports ive been in
LOL

 

[Rat in the Hat]

given his last post, i wonder how long it has been since he has actually been IN an airport?

Actually, if you go to the East Terminal at STL Lambert, the meet and greet area for Southwest is right next to the TSA security area. I spent many an hour there waiting for someone, and watching the security show. Nobody ever came up to me and asked what I was doing.

But I'm sure if I had pulled out a camera it would have been a completely different story.

By the way, the security area is clearly visible from the outside through the floor to ceiling windows they have.

ah, not in the airports ive been in
LOL

Yeah, I think Lambert is somewhat unique. They set up the East Terminal for several smaller airlines, but when American downsized, they gave it all over to Southwest. They stopped using the corridor to the West Terminal, and set up security and the meet and greet in the only available space they had.

And what really sucks is that all the food vendors and shopping are on the other side of security. The only shop landside is Starbucks, and I'll be damned if I pay 5 bucks for coffee, no matter how long I have to wait for someone.

 

[DiveCon]

Actually, if you go to the East Terminal at STL Lambert, the meet and greet area for Southwest is right next to the TSA security area. I spent many an hour there waiting for someone, and watching the security show. Nobody ever came up to me and asked what I was doing.

But I'm sure if I had pulled out a camera it would have been a completely different story.

By the way, the security area is clearly visible from the outside through the floor to ceiling windows they have.

ah, not in the airports ive been in
LOL

Yeah, I think Lambert is somewhat unique. They set up the East Terminal for several smaller airlines, but when American downsized, they gave it all over to Southwest. They stopped using the corridor to the West Terminal, and set up security and the meet and greet in the only available space they had.

And what really sucks is that all the food vendors and shopping are on the other side of security. The only shop landside is Starbucks, and I'll be damned if I pay 5 bucks for coffee, no matter how long I have to wait for someone.

what i find funny is, they are expanding the Portland, ME airport(PWM)
and from what i've seen of the plans, it looks like they are building a mall into it
LOL
seems counter to security to me

 

[Rat in the Hat]

ah, not in the airports ive been in
LOL

Yeah, I think Lambert is somewhat unique. They set up the East Terminal for several smaller airlines, but when American downsized, they gave it all over to Southwest. They stopped using the corridor to the West Terminal, and set up security and the meet and greet in the only available space they had.

And what really sucks is that all the food vendors and shopping are on the other side of security. The only shop landside is Starbucks, and I'll be damned if I pay 5 bucks for coffee, no matter how long I have to wait for someone.

what i find funny is, they are expanding the Portland, ME airport(PWM)
and from what i've seen of the plans, it looks like they are building a mall into it
LOL
seems counter to security to me

If they build the mall landside, it'll make some bucks for the airport authority.

If they put it airside, they're wasting major bucks. The Thousands Standing Around will hold up passengers until they have no time to shop, and arriving passengers just want to get out of the airport and away from the nonsense.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Actually, if you go to the East Terminal at STL Lambert, the meet and greet area for Southwest is right next to the TSA security area. I spent many an hour there waiting for someone, and watching the security show. Nobody ever came up to me and asked what I was doing.

But I'm sure if I had pulled out a camera it would have been a completely different story.

By the way, the security area is clearly visible from the outside through the floor to ceiling windows they have.

ah, not in the airports ive been in
LOL

Yeah, I think Lambert is somewhat unique. They set up the East Terminal for several smaller airlines, but when American downsized, they gave it all over to Southwest. They stopped using the corridor to the West Terminal, and set up security and the meet and greet in the only available space they had.

And what really sucks is that all the food vendors and shopping are on the other side of security. The only shop landside is Starbucks, and I'll be damned if I pay 5 bucks for coffee, no matter how long I have to wait for someone.

Pretty much the same as Pittsburg, If you aren't flying there is very little to do if you are waiting for someone. But you cannot see security from the outside. At least not well enough to see who is being screened. You might be able to see the lines fairly well.

 

[DiveCon]

Yeah, I think Lambert is somewhat unique. They set up the East Terminal for several smaller airlines, but when American downsized, they gave it all over to Southwest. They stopped using the corridor to the West Terminal, and set up security and the meet and greet in the only available space they had.

And what really sucks is that all the food vendors and shopping are on the other side of security. The only shop landside is Starbucks, and I'll be damned if I pay 5 bucks for coffee, no matter how long I have to wait for someone.

what i find funny is, they are expanding the Portland, ME airport(PWM)
and from what i've seen of the plans, it looks like they are building a mall into it
LOL
seems counter to security to me

If they build the mall landside, it'll make some bucks for the airport authority.

If they put it airside, they're wasting major bucks. The Thousands Standing Around will hold up passengers until they have no time to shop, and arriving passengers just want to get out of the airport and away from the nonsense.

the airport is within 2 miles of the largest mall in the state
LOL
with tons of satellite shopping centers around it

 

[Rat in the Hat]

what i find funny is, they are expanding the Portland, ME airport(PWM)
and from what i've seen of the plans, it looks like they are building a mall into it
LOL
seems counter to security to me

If they build the mall landside, it'll make some bucks for the airport authority.

If they put it airside, they're wasting major bucks. The Thousands Standing Around will hold up passengers until they have no time to shop, and arriving passengers just want to get out of the airport and away from the nonsense.

the airport is within 2 miles of the largest mall in the state
LOL
with tons of satellite shopping centers around it

AHA, massive waste of money then. I wonder whose palms are being greased?

 

[DiveCon]

If they build the mall landside, it'll make some bucks for the airport authority.

If they put it airside, they're wasting major bucks. The Thousands Standing Around will hold up passengers until they have no time to shop, and arriving passengers just want to get out of the airport and away from the nonsense.

the airport is within 2 miles of the largest mall in the state
LOL
with tons of satellite shopping centers around it

AHA, massive waste of money then. I wonder whose palms are being greased?

yup
but then the socialist republic of portland is well known for that

 

[Quantum Windbag]

have you done this?

at the airports i have been in recently(Portland, ME, Atlanta, GA, Los Angeles, CA, Detroit, MI) not one of them had visual access to the security area from OUTSIDE the building

You can go up to the security area and watch in some airports. Failing that, you can always get there early, and watch from the other side of security. Most airports make it hard to film screening areas, but it is not impossible.

you cant get to the other side unless you have a boarding pass

Which is why I said to get there early. I should have made the point clearer though, so no sweat.

 

[DiveCon]

You can go up to the security area and watch in some airports. Failing that, you can always get there early, and watch from the other side of security. Most airports make it hard to film screening areas, but it is not impossible.

you cant get to the other side unless you have a boarding pass

Which is why I said to get there early. I should have made the point clearer though, so no sweat.

my experience with TSA has been all positive, but i havent been through it since the new process has been added
i found them to be generally courteous and competent

 

[Quantum Windbag]

you cant get to the other side unless you have a boarding pass

Which is why I said to get there early. I should have made the point clearer though, so no sweat.

my experience with TSA has been all positive, but i havent been through it since the new process has been added
i found them to be generally courteous and competent

The police a generally courteous, professional, and competent, that does not mean the bad apples get a free pass.