Countries where Communism has worked

[francoHFW]

Socialism is just Communism lite. ....

just like democracy is dictatorship light, brainwashed functional moron. every socialist in the world and every and every socialist party ever said you are an idiot.

 

[Sunni Man]

just like democracy is dictatorship light,

Thanks for the laugh!! ...

 

[francoHFW]

every family unit is communist.
Unless kids are charged rent by their parents, fee to use bathroom, fee for meals etc. Kids demand payment to do chores, etc. The only question is can it scale up?

Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry and will never work. socialism is always democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net like every modern country but us. It's health care for all day care cheap college and training great infrastructure and Vacations and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. What we have is Savage capitalism with its incredible inequality and crap upward mobility....

 

[dudmuck]

Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry and will never work. socialism is always democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net like every modern country but us. It's health care for all day care cheap college and training great infrastructure and Vacations and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. What we have is Savage capitalism with its incredible inequality and crap upward mobility....

the goal of communists is to have common ownership of production, with the absence of state. Without state, there is no dictatorship. But in the transition to communism, it does require a dictatorship during this period. In practice though, the dictatorship remained, and the state remained.

 

[Failzero]

If it had worked there would still be a Yugoslavia.

Yep so when it failed there were 3 Civil wars and it became 3 Countries and a couple of controlled Regions .

 

[Failzero]

Socialism is not Capitalism .

 

[Unkotare]

China demolished one of the greatest, most pervasive myths of human history:

The idea that private ownership of the means of production (capitalism) is the only path to economic prosperity.

The label "chinese state capitalism" makes sense up to a certain point. You have the chinese state striving to minimize expenses and maximize profits just like a capitalist.

But the expression is also a contradiction in terms.... if the property belongs to the state and is not privately owned it's not capitalism.

Anyway the myth that only capitalist societies can create prosperity was definitely debunked by China in the last 50, 60 years.

Exactly the opposite.

 

[José]

Exactly the opposite.

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Exactly the opposite of what, Unkotare? Be more specific.

Short messages are nice but sometimes they ended up being unintentionally too cryptic. : )

 

[Unkotare]

China's economic growth has come as a direct result of, and in proportion to, the degree to which they moved away from communism and toward capitalism.

 

[José]

Originally posted by Unkotare
China's economic growth has come as a direct result of, and in proportion to, the degree to which they moved away from communism and toward capitalism.

I strongly held the same opinion, Unkotare, until I discovered that the german writer, Erich Fromm, in a 1962 book stated that the rate of China's economic growth was 15 times faster than India's.

But anyway, let's focus on the present.

Economists from all over the world are always linking underdevelopment to the number of state companies.

"Nigeria is poor because its government has 150 state-owned enterprises."

"Mexico is poor because the the country has 200 state-owned businesses."

"South Africa, Indonesia, Uzbekistan, etc, etc, etc..."

I wonder how those economists explain the chinese economic miracle since the country possesses 6.000 companies (!!!!) that represent the lion's share of the chinese GDP and interferes in the rest of the economy in a massive way.

Hardly an example of a capitalist society.