Criticism of Israel

[rosends]

You struggle with maps I've noticed.

And you with words and concepts.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You mean a Jew who lived in the Mandate pre 1948 or someone from the city of Palestine. TX or WV?

No I mean someone who's family lived there already, not one of the hordes of foreigners that migrated as refugees from Europe last century.

 

[MarcATL]

Yes and I asked a clarifying question and then showed that one of the problems with the phrase is the other word in it.

I was planning on getting to that word, so again, what's the definition of "Zionist?"

Remember, two words were used.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I think we need a better and broader definition of antisemitism.

Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:

1. Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
2. Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
3. Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
4. Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
5. Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
6. Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
7. Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
8. Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
9. Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
10. Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
11. Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

Source

Why do you need a definition ?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

And you with words and concepts.

At least I know what the words "Zionism", "Occupation" and "Palestine" mean, unlike you; you should get out and meet some Jews next time your in Jerusalem, assuming there are any left, that they haven't all been arrested for their Jewish beliefs.

 

[rosends]

No I mean someone who's family lived there already, not one of the hordes of foreigners that migrated as refugees from Europe last century.

OH, so you mean Jews and not Arabs who came from surrounding countries.

 

[rosends]

I was planning on getting to that word, so again, what's the definition of "Zionist?"

Remember, two words were used.

Yes but without answering my clarifying question you won't get a correct definition.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

OH, so you mean Jews and not Arabs who came from surrounding countries.

You're very likely part Arab yourself.

 

[rosends]

At least I know what the words "Zionism", "Occupation" and "Palestine" mean, unlike you;

No, no you don't. That much has been abundantly clear.

you should get out and meet some Jews next time your in Jerusalem, assuming there are any left, that they haven't all been arrested for their Jewish beliefs.

I just spent 2 weeks there. I know a far sight better than you and have met more Jews.

 

[rosends]

You're very likely part Arab yourself.

Wow, you're as good as 23 and Me.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Wow, you're as good as 23 and Me.

Jews and Arabs Share Recent Ancestry​

 

[rosends]

Jews and Arabs Share Recent Ancestry​

How do you know I'm not a convert?

 

[Lisa558]

Wow, you're as good as 23 and Me.

In case you haven’t noticed, Sherlock is a “new” member who just joined esrlier this month - and is right out of the gate saying the same stuff, with the genocide and Zionist Regime verbiage, that some of the G posters use.

He is clearly a sock puppet.

 

[Shusha]

What's the definition of "Zionist?"

Reclamation of self-determination for the Jewish people in their homeland.

There are no add-ons. Just that.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

In case you haven’t noticed, Sherlock is a “new” member who just joined earlier this month - and is right out of the gate saying the same stuff, with the genocide and Zionist Regime verbiage, that some of the G posters use.

 

[Shusha]

Why do you need a definition ?

It tends to facilitate communication if we have a shared understanding of specific language terms.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

It tends to facilitate communication if we have a shared understanding of specific language terms.

Right then, here's the Jewish definition of "Zionism":

Are we all agreed? Good.

 

[rosends]

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Wow - look at all those passionate Zionists! Would you like to see the Zionist I prayers they say?

 

[rosends]

Right then, here's the Jewish definition of "Zionism":

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Are we all agreed? Good.

Clear. He is an incredible Zionist. He says a special prayer about Zionism on Mondays, Thursday and the sabbath and festivals. Did you know that? I did.

 

[MarcATL]

Reclamation of self-determination for the Jewish people in their homeland.

There are no add-ons. Just that.

Is there a source to that definition?