Creationists

[Youwerecreated]

Sure it is. How will you recognize something you don't believe in?

I hate to break it to them,the reason they can't see God is he is a spirit and has not personally reavealed himself to them. The scriptures say you know me by my creation.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Sure it is. How will you recognize something you don't believe in?

You think I would recognize hell if I end up in it?

No because you will be dead.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Yes indeed. And I think you'll know exactly where you are and be begging to access heaven.

And you will be denied, if you don't accept Christ before you're sent there.

I'll step in right here... You don't know a blink of wisdom enough to decide what I should, read, think, want or not want in any religion or do in my life.

You are clearly not at a loss for words but you make no sense. You got a full ride through college on the merit of one fucking paper? Please...

In a way you remind me of my dear and departed mom. She graduated from the University of Washington with a 4.0 at 19 years old. She could speak several foreign languages. AND with all that ability to digest information and spit it back out to the aclaim of her teachers and professors she was hands down one of the dumbest humans I ever met. She was EXTREMELY fortunate her dad died and left her many millions of dollars in the early fifties.

Like you she was so full of herself that she spent most of her time communicating with others telling them what they should think and what was and what was not proper for them to do. She spent most of the money she and my siblings and I had been given suing her brother because HE didn't like being cut out of thier dads will. So he went after the millions that were supposed to be MY and my sister and brothers inheritance and my genious mother spent ALL of it..about 7 million dollars on lawyers and fighting his play for that money until the day he commited suicide. He did that when he figured out that after years of court battles there was NOTHING left to fight over. At least nothing he could get his hands on. My mom BRAGGED about how she WON!!! Then over the years she tried and failed at numeroud crackpot money making schemes, lawsuits with people she didn't agree with and her efforts to prove how smart she was ALL failed and cost her many more millions. Not to worry..her dad left her dozens of huge valuable properties and also bought her and her kids the place up on Orcas Island.

Trust me .. I have had my very fill of know it all self righteous bitches. Don't get me wrong ..I have known many fine women. Loved several of them. But I also learned an important lesson early on about the worth of education and how it can translate or not into something of meaning in one's life and affect those around the "genius". Don't think I do not/did not love my mom...you only get one. I learned to not equate her insanity and stupidity with the reasons one loves his mother.

In short...you can read a million books and still be a world class idiot. You can learn to spell every word in a dictionary and learn every rule of grammar and put the words together like a well writen piece of literature and STILL be a complete fool...

I'm probably wasting my time here but if you are ever honest with yourself you know what I'm talkng about. You know that for the most part you are full of shit.

Now back to religion. If Christ or God or the tooth fairy want my attention I'm not that hard to find. I am a long way from stupid compared to most people. You and a million like you can not convince me to believe a lie...a half truth ..or just some made up jibberish you choose to worship. Stop wasting your time and my attention. I learned to figure out truth from deception from a gifted wordsmith. You are an amature. I don't give a rats ass if it gives you pleasure convincing weak minded people with your mundane nonsense. I don't want to know what you know. I don't like liars and fools. You are not a blood relative therefore you get no special consideration. If I were you I would get real sick and disgusted with myself and put the barrel of a pistol in my mouth and pull the trigger. Lucky for me I am immune to the intentional/unintentional manipulation from people like you.

Are we clear?

Oh dear, did someone piss in your cheerios ?

 

[HUGGY]

Yes indeed. And I think you'll know exactly where you are and be begging to access heaven.

And you will be denied, if you don't accept Christ before you're sent there.

I'll step in right here... You don't know a blink of wisdom enough to decide what I should, read, think, want or not want in any religion or do in my life.

You are clearly not at a loss for words but you make no sense. You got a full ride through college on the merit of one fucking paper? Please...

In a way you remind me of my dear and departed mom. She graduated from the University of Washington with a 4.0 at 19 years old. She could speak several foreign languages. AND with all that ability to digest information and spit it back out to the aclaim of her teachers and professors she was hands down one of the dumbest humans I ever met. She was EXTREMELY fortunate her dad died and left her many millions of dollars in the early fifties.

Like you she was so full of herself that she spent most of her time communicating with others telling them what they should think and what was and what was not proper for them to do. She spent most of the money she and my siblings and I had been given suing her brother because HE didn't like being cut out of thier dads will. So he went after the millions that were supposed to be MY and my sister and brothers inheritance and my genious mother spent ALL of it..about 7 million dollars on lawyers and fighting his play for that money until the day he commited suicide. He did that when he figured out that after years of court battles there was NOTHING left to fight over. At least nothing he could get his hands on. My mom BRAGGED about how she WON!!! Then over the years she tried and failed at numeroud crackpot money making schemes, lawsuits with people she didn't agree with and her efforts to prove how smart she was ALL failed and cost her many more millions. Not to worry..her dad left her dozens of huge valuable properties and also bought her and her kids the place up on Orcas Island.

Trust me .. I have had my very fill of know it all self righteous bitches. Don't get me wrong ..I have known many fine women. Loved several of them. But I also learned an important lesson early on about the worth of education and how it can translate or not into something of meaning in one's life and affect those around the "genius". Don't think I do not/did not love my mom...you only get one. I learned to not equate her insanity and stupidity with the reasons one loves his mother.

In short...you can read a million books and still be a world class idiot. You can learn to spell every word in a dictionary and learn every rule of grammar and put the words together like a well writen piece of literature and STILL be a complete fool...

I'm probably wasting my time here but if you are ever honest with yourself you know what I'm talkng about. You know that for the most part you are full of shit.

Now back to religion. If Christ or God or the tooth fairy want my attention I'm not that hard to find. I am a long way from stupid compared to most people. You and a million like you can not convince me to believe a lie...a half truth ..or just some made up jibberish you choose to worship. Stop wasting your time and my attention. I learned to figure out truth from deception from a gifted wordsmith. You are an amature. I don't give a rats ass if it gives you pleasure convincing weak minded people with your mundane nonsense. I don't want to know what you know. I don't like liars and fools. You are not a blood relative therefore you get no special consideration. If I were you I would get real sick and disgusted with myself and put the barrel of a pistol in my mouth and pull the trigger. Lucky for me I am immune to the intentional/unintentional manipulation from people like you.

Are we clear?

Oh dear, did someone piss in your cheerios ?

No... But I will be happy to piss in yours.

 

[UltimateReality]

I disagree with your belief that scientists are trying to denude our culture of divinity. I would argue that in the context of god, science is neutral as there is no scientific evidence that either proves or disproves the existence of a creator. Im not sure what lead you to conclude that modern science is anti god but I strongly suspect that it is to some extent a result of the tremendous disconnect between what conclusions scientist are actually publishing and the way their conclusions are reported in popular media. Non scientific media sources blatantly distort the actual findingS of scientists to support non scientific agendas. Such distortions occur in every controversial scientific debate and are commites by all sides.

A common misconception about the TOE is that it covers the origin of life. It does not. The origin of life on earth can only be explained by several hypothesis that are based on woefully incomplete datasets. The most commonly accepted hypothesis-abiogenesis- is far from convincing. The link concerning the problems with this hypothesis in an RNA world eloquently explains some of the tremendous flaws inherent in that hypothesis

Your honesty on this thread is refreshing. This thread reminds me of being a cop... you start thinking that everyone is a criminal because everyone you come in contact with is. You forget you are only seeing a small percentage of society. You have conveyed what I have been arguing since I started posting on here, that is, many people use science to support their materialistic religion. You are absolutely correct in the assertion the media distorts the findings to support an atheistic agenda. You also have prominent individuals like Dawkins and Hawking that use science at every turn to espouse their atheistic beliefs. Add to that a whole internet culture continually quoting and mis-quoting what the REAL current scientific findings are. Loki has posted numerous links and video's to folks that pretend they have all the answers, but are so far from the current findings and thought it is obvious their agenda is more important than the actual science.

While there is also a small percentage of Christians that are very close minded, I like to think that I am very open minded. There are definitely things in the Old Testament I struggle with. I am willing to ask the hard questions about the Bible although for some Christians, they would rather stay in their comfortable boxes. When I think of the great expanse of the universe, my mind cannot even begin to comprehend the size and how small I really am. How much more in awe am I of the Creator!!! That reliazation should make all believers tremble in fear. But yet, even in the Old Testament, we find Job questioning the Almighty God. We find Jonah arguing with God. I believe God likes questions. I think questions are good for Christians and for scientists. Progress can only happen when we are willing to admit we don't have all the answers. I guess that really is my main aggravation with some posters and advocates of materialism. Their pride rarely allows them to admit that they don't have all the answers, that they just "don't know" and there is no good explanation for the findings if they stick to strictly a naturalistic veiwpoint. I also believe that while there are many open minded scientists, many of the organizations that represent them don't like questions. Again, they are arrogant in their stance that they are right and everyone else is wrong. I am talking about organizations that are government sponsored like the National Center for Science Education, whose atheistic bias is preached at every opportunity.

 

[UltimateReality]

The Discovery Institute is a non-profit public policy think tank based in Seattle, Washington, best known for its advocacy of intelligent design. Founded in 1990, the institute describes its purpose as promoting "ideas in the common sense tradition of representative government, the free market and individual liberty."[2] Its Teach the Controversy campaign aims to teach creationist anti-evolution beliefs in United States public high school science courses alongside accepted scientific theories, positing a scientific controversy exists over these subjects.[3][4][5][6][7]

A federal court, along with the majority of scientific organizations, including the American Association for the Advancement of Science, say the Institute has manufactured the controversy they want to teach by promoting a false perception that evolution is "a theory in crisis",[8] through incorrectly claiming that it is the subject of wide controversy and debate within the scientific community.[9][10][11] In 2005, a federal court ruled that the Discovery Institute pursues "demonstrably religious, cultural, and legal missions",[8][10][12] and the institute's manifesto, the Wedge strategy,[13] describes a religious goal: to "reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions".[14][15] It was the Federal Court's opinion that Intelligent Design was merely a redressing of Creationism and that, as such, it was not a scientific proposition.

Discovery Institute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am well aware of who and what the Discovery Institute is. But I love the obvious bias for the "anyone can edit" Wiki comments!!! I regularly quote Wiki, but with the understanding it is relativism on steroids, and info can be manipulated with ease, unlike the old hard printed Britanica sets.

Is this the same Federal court that has shredded the Constitution and stripped American's of their CREATOR ENDOWED inalienable rights? Here are a few comments on Dover rover...

It's Time for Some Folks to Get Over Dover - Evolution News & Views

dodge

Chevy.

 

[UltimateReality]

In a way you remind me of my dear and departed mom. She graduated from the University of Washington with a 4.0 at 19 years old. She could speak several foreign languages. AND with all that ability to digest information and spit it back out to the aclaim of her teachers and professors she was hands down one of the dumbest humans I ever met. She was EXTREMELY fortunate her dad died and left her many millions of dollars in the early fifties.

Wow and there we have it. 62 years old and still dealing with mommie issues. She was stupid and wound up with millions. You are a legend in your own mind but you find yourself 62 and broke. And I bet your mom didn't leave you a dime. You just supported my view that your seething anger has rotted your soul and left you in the Godless place you find yourself. You wouldn't read childish books but you hold onto your childhood issues. Maybe a few childhood books would start you on your road to healing all that bitterness in your heart.

 

[HUGGY]

In a way you remind me of my dear and departed mom. She graduated from the University of Washington with a 4.0 at 19 years old. She could speak several foreign languages. AND with all that ability to digest information and spit it back out to the aclaim of her teachers and professors she was hands down one of the dumbest humans I ever met. She was EXTREMELY fortunate her dad died and left her many millions of dollars in the early fifties.

Wow and there we have it. 62 years old and still dealing with mommie issues. She was stupid and wound up with millions. You are a legend in your own mind but you find yourself 62 and broke. And I bet your mom didn't leave you a dime. You just supported my view that your seething anger has rotted your soul and left you in the Godless place you find yourself. You wouldn't read childish books but you hold onto your childhood issues. Maybe a few childhood books would start you on your road to healing all that bitterness in your heart.

No...She was stupid and blew many millions...some of them my millions. I think that would piss anyone off.

We are all in a godless place. You are just too stupid to acknowledge it. Thanks for playing.

 

[daws101]

Your side knows how devastating extinction events are to your theory,they just can't bring themselves to admit if these events happened that it did not destroy all life.

Earth's Big Five Mass Extinction Events

But yet your side rejects the global flood theory from the bible that has evidence to support it over the entire earth. Notice how little they know of these supposed extinction events they want to believe happened.

There's no evidence a that a Global Flood caused even one of those extinctions, much less 5 seperated by 100s of millions of years. Don't get your first sentence. Could you rephrase it? It sounds like we're refusing to admit something, but I'm not clear as to exacly what.

There is plenty of evidence supporting a global flood. I don't believe in any of these extinction events other than the global flood. I don't believe that the earth was completely lifeless either because God protected the animals and humans to preserve his creation. Atleast God saved two of every kind to repopoulate the earth other then humans.

I was pointing out that your side was making claims about extinction events that they don't know anythging about like when it happened what survived. Talking about making something up as they go.

Take an elementary Geology class. The fossils layers could NOT have been put down by one global flood. A global flood as described in the Bible would only put down one layer with all kinds of fossils mixed in. We don't see that, though. We see an organized fossil record, with simple organisms at the bottom (Older layers), and more complex as you go up.

And LMAO about the dinosaurs. The earth has changed a lot in 65 million years since the dinosaurs died. Deserts have came and gone, rivers have dried up, mountains have been raised, and seas have dried up. The Sahara desert was once a jungle. The earth has changed. You are a moron.

 

[ilia25]

Sure it is. How will you recognize something you don't believe in?

You think I would recognize hell if I end up in it?

No because you will be dead.

That is not what you said before, when you were threatening nonbelievers with hell

You have to keep changing the tune 'cause no matter what is your current explanation, it does not hold water.

 

[ilia25]

Your honesty on this thread is refreshing.

And your being an idiot is not refreshing at all. I mean honestly, what would you call a person, who keep repeating that lacking faith in anything is just another religion? An open minded?

 

[HUGGY]

And your being an idiot is not refreshing at all. I mean honestly, what would you call a person, who keep repeating that lacking faith in anything is just another religion? An open minded?

Many atheists have faith in themselves and a certainty, a belief, that humanity will grow out of it's foolish childish fantasies.

 

[koshergrl]

Unfortunately, they're wrong.

 

[HUGGY]

Unfortunately, they're wrong.

It may take several more generations but thankfully your kind is a dying breed.

 

[koshergrl]

Naw, we don't die that easily.

 

[HUGGY]

Naw, we don't die that easily.

Maybe...but you do die eventually!

 

[koshergrl]

I have 4 children though, lol...

 

[Political Junky]

Just saw a sign at a Gingrich event that said, "God not Gov't". That is scary stuff to see Americans who would gladly embrace theocracy.

Church Leaders Encouraged to Rely on God, Not Gov't, Christian News

 

[UltimateReality]

And your being an idiot is not refreshing at all. I mean honestly, what would you call a person, who keep repeating that lacking faith in anything is just another religion? An open minded?

Is this post supposed to make sense? The grammar is horrendous.

Better??

 

[Montrovant]

I have 4 children though, lol...

LOL, she's got you there!

Unless the kids end up renouncing belief at some point.....

I doubt we'll ever see humanity without religion. I question whether we'll ever see humanity without a large portion with some religious beliefs. What I do think we'll continue to see is religions changing as the times change; whether that is adaption within current religions or new religions becoming popular, I think too many people have a need to believe in something beyond themselves for it to die out. It's not inherently a bad thing, despite the fact I don't like religion; it's all in what people do in the name of their beliefs that matters.

In 1000 years, maybe Jedi will be the major religion of humanity, but I still expect there will be a ton of believers if we are still here as a species.