Creationists

[LittleNipper]

I understand you're embarrassed. Once again, you were exposed as a fraud by copying and pasting falsified “quotes” that you scour from creationist websites.

Similarly, your silly copy and paste from the charlatan Behe have been refuted as fraudulent.

Why would the science community debate the man or that matter even respond to him if his arguments were no threat ? kinda like how you and daws operate.

Behe and Christian fundies are not a threat to the science community. Christian creationism has long ago been defined as void of science and simply a front for Christian cultists.

The danger represented by charlatans such as Behe and fundies such as yourself is your need to impose your retrograde fear and superstition on others, especially in the public school system. Should the teaching of Christianity in public schools become widespread, the harm it would cause our nation would be tragic. As fundie Christians would have it, school children would be taught that the bibles are literally true and that soundly based scientific principles, when not accord with the biblical interpretation, would cease to be fact.

Childrens minds would be confused because fear, ancient superstition and myth masquerading as science would be used to instill fear and superstition. Children in public schools should be encouraged to explore their curiosity about nature, science and the natural world and to use their curiosity to arrive at the facts of a matter by rational deduction framed by the discipline of the scientific method. Any attempts to indoctrinate our public school children with false information, fear instilling doctrines and ancient superstitions based on the unscientific hypotheses of christian creationists would be a tragedy.

Here is exactly what your secularized education has led to:
10 years later, the real story behind Columbine - USATODAY.com

 

[UltimateReality]

Wtf are you talking about?

For one the origins question. You needed chemical evolution to form a living cell. Then you needed abiogenesis to form living organisms all these are forms of evolution which they have no evidence for and have to plead ignorance on.

As do you, yet you know the answer? Argument from ignorance.

Seriously Dude, you are getting as bad as Hawly. The Meyer hypothesis has been presented to you numerous times and you still wrongly claim an "argument from ignorance" when Meyers proof is no such thing. It is based on a process currently in operation, i.e., the origin of information with specificity only having an intelligent agent as its source. How long are you going to keep repeating the same WRONG thing over and over again?

 

[UltimateReality]

I think the problem here is that our epistemologies are different. The science crowd considers knowledge of the universe to be something that is only possible with evidence. I belong in this camp. ....

Then I guess evolutionists like you don't belong to the science crowd.

 

[UltimateReality]

I understand you're embarrassed. Once again, you were exposed as a fraud by copying and pasting falsified “quotes” that you scour from creationist websites.

Similarly, your silly copy and paste from the charlatan Behe have been refuted as fraudulent.

Why would the science community debate the man or that matter even respond to him if his arguments were no threat ? kinda like how you and daws operate.

Behe and Christian fundies are not a threat to the science community. Christian creationism has long ago been defined as void of science and simply a front for Christian cultists.

The danger represented by charlatans such as Behe and fundies such as yourself is your need to impose your retrograde fear and superstition on others, especially in the public school system. Should the teaching of Christianity in public schools become widespread, the harm it would cause our nation would be tragic. As fundie Christians would have it, school children would be taught that the bibles are literally true and that soundly based scientific principles, when not accord with the biblical interpretation, would cease to be fact.

Childrens minds would be confused because fear, ancient superstition and myth masquerading as science would be used to instill fear and superstition. Children in public schools should be encouraged to explore their curiosity about nature, science and the natural world and to use their curiosity to arrive at the facts of a matter by rational deduction framed by the discipline of the scientific method. Any attempts to indoctrinate our public school children with false information, fear instilling doctrines and ancient superstitions based on the unscientific hypotheses of christian creationists would be a tragedy.

Don't you ever get tired of spewing this bullshit?? Over 1000 pages and you can't come up with any new cut and pastes? Get a life!!! Seriously, you need to get out the house. Step away from the computer. You have lost all touch with reality.

 

[Hollie]

Why would the science community debate the man or that matter even respond to him if his arguments were no threat ? kinda like how you and daws operate.

Behe and Christian fundies are not a threat to the science community. Christian creationism has long ago been defined as void of science and simply a front for Christian cultists.

The danger represented by charlatans such as Behe and fundies such as yourself is your need to impose your retrograde fear and superstition on others, especially in the public school system. Should the teaching of Christianity in public schools become widespread, the harm it would cause our nation would be tragic. As fundie Christians would have it, school children would be taught that the bibles are literally true and that soundly based scientific principles, when not accord with the biblical interpretation, would cease to be fact.

Childrens minds would be confused because fear, ancient superstition and myth masquerading as science would be used to instill fear and superstition. Children in public schools should be encouraged to explore their curiosity about nature, science and the natural world and to use their curiosity to arrive at the facts of a matter by rational deduction framed by the discipline of the scientific method. Any attempts to indoctrinate our public school children with false information, fear instilling doctrines and ancient superstitions based on the unscientific hypotheses of christian creationists would be a tragedy.

Don't you ever get tired of spewing this bullshit?? Over 1000 pages and you can't come up with any new cut and pastes? Get a life!!! Seriously, you need to get out the house. Step away from the computer. You have lost all touch with reality.

Isn't this like the 8th time you have done the pissy schoolgirl thing and stormed away because your fundie Christian arguments have been totally dismantled?

Once again, you enter thread with no purpose than stalking me as a desperate plea for attention.

 

[Hollie]

I think the problem here is that our epistemologies are different. The science crowd considers knowledge of the universe to be something that is only possible with evidence. I belong in this camp. ....

Then I guess evolutionists like you don't belong to the science crowd.

Actually, yours is the type of pointless, waste of bandwidth babble that defines the brain-dead Christian fundie argument.

 

[Hollie]

For one the origins question. You needed chemical evolution to form a living cell. Then you needed abiogenesis to form living organisms all these are forms of evolution which they have no evidence for and have to plead ignorance on.

As do you, yet you know the answer? Argument from ignorance.

Seriously Dude, you are getting as bad as Hawly. The Meyer hypothesis has been presented to you numerous times and you still wrongly claim an "argument from ignorance" when Meyers proof is no such thing. It is based on a process currently in operation, i.e., the origin of information with specificity only having an intelligent agent as its source. How long are you going to keep repeating the same WRONG thing over and over again?

Why do you bother flailing your pom poms for the Christian hack, Meyer? He's really just another charlatan fronting for the disco' tute and in typical fashion for fundie hacks, he has no academic credentials in the field of science he babbles about.

 

[LittleNipper]

Please read: Evidence against Evolution (concise and short)

 

[Hollie]

Please read: Evidence against Evolution (concise and short)

Boilerplate christian apologetics. It's been thoroughly refuted as nonsense.

 

[Big_D2]

Youwerecreated & Little Nipper,

If Noah's ark took place just 4000 years ago and only eight people were on the ark, how could there be 7 billion people now?

 

[Hollie]

Youwerecreated & Little Nipper,

If Noah's ark took place just 4000 years ago and only eight people were on the ark, how could there be 7 billion people now?

And why would the gawds provide for incestuous relationships (Noah's immediate family) as the means to repopulate the planet?

 

[Youwerecreated]

I understand you're embarrassed. Once again, you were exposed as a fraud by copying and pasting falsified “quotes” that you scour from creationist websites.

Similarly, your silly copy and paste from the charlatan Behe have been refuted as fraudulent.

Why would the science community debate the man or that matter even respond to him if his arguments were no threat ? kinda like how you and daws operate.

Behe and Christian fundies are not a threat to the science community. Christian creationism has long ago been defined as void of science and simply a front for Christian cultists.

The danger represented by charlatans such as Behe and fundies such as yourself is your need to impose your retrograde fear and superstition on others, especially in the public school system. Should the teaching of Christianity in public schools become widespread, the harm it would cause our nation would be tragic. As fundie Christians would have it, school children would be taught that the bibles are literally true and that soundly based scientific principles, when not accord with the biblical interpretation, would cease to be fact.

Childrens minds would be confused because fear, ancient superstition and myth masquerading as science would be used to instill fear and superstition. Children in public schools should be encouraged to explore their curiosity about nature, science and the natural world and to use their curiosity to arrive at the facts of a matter by rational deduction framed by the discipline of the scientific method. Any attempts to indoctrinate our public school children with false information, fear instilling doctrines and ancient superstitions based on the unscientific hypotheses of christian creationists would be a tragedy.

Yes they are hollie,because if their arguments were no threat your side would not resort to attacking ones intelligence or their character. They sure as heck can't take on their arguments.

 

[Youwerecreated]

I think the problem here is that our epistemologies are different. The science crowd considers knowledge of the universe to be something that is only possible with evidence. I belong in this camp. ....

Then I guess evolutionists like you don't belong to the science crowd.

Actually, yours is the type of pointless, waste of bandwidth babble that defines the brain-dead Christian fundie argument.

Hollie, you really should look at your posts.

 

[Youwerecreated]

As do you, yet you know the answer? Argument from ignorance.

Seriously Dude, you are getting as bad as Hawly. The Meyer hypothesis has been presented to you numerous times and you still wrongly claim an "argument from ignorance" when Meyers proof is no such thing. It is based on a process currently in operation, i.e., the origin of information with specificity only having an intelligent agent as its source. How long are you going to keep repeating the same WRONG thing over and over again?

Why do you bother flailing your pom poms for the Christian hack, Meyer? He's really just another charlatan fronting for the disco' tute and in typical fashion for fundie hacks, he has no academic credentials in the field of science he babbles about.

Again do you think repeating the same thing over and over is convincing ?

 

[Youwerecreated]

Youwerecreated & Little Nipper,

If Noah's ark took place just 4000 years ago and only eight people were on the ark, how could there be 7 billion people now?

No one knows exactly when the flood took place.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Youwerecreated & Little Nipper,

If Noah's ark took place just 4000 years ago and only eight people were on the ark, how could there be 7 billion people now?

I posted the population growth argument it explains it in detail.

The human population of the world supports a young earth.

World Population Since Creation

NOVA | World in the Balance | Human Numbers Through Time | PBS

 

[Youwerecreated]

Youwerecreated & Little Nipper,

If Noah's ark took place just 4000 years ago and only eight people were on the ark, how could there be 7 billion people now?

And why would the gawds provide for incestuous relationships (Noah's immediate family) as the means to repopulate the planet?

You need to read your bible noah's sons had wives that were not related to them. Evolution allows and needed incest to populate the earth to but God is wrong because he may have allowed it at a time when man was closer to perfection with less chance of passing on genetic disorders. God did put a stop to it at a certain point because he knew the harm that would come if it was still practiced.

If you think about it since evolution is your answer on how the planet got filled with living organisms,incestral relationships had to populate the earth. How did groups of organisms survive this practice if they were not near perfection ?

 

[Hollie]

Why would the science community debate the man or that matter even respond to him if his arguments were no threat ? kinda like how you and daws operate.

Behe and Christian fundies are not a threat to the science community. Christian creationism has long ago been defined as void of science and simply a front for Christian cultists.

The danger represented by charlatans such as Behe and fundies such as yourself is your need to impose your retrograde fear and superstition on others, especially in the public school system. Should the teaching of Christianity in public schools become widespread, the harm it would cause our nation would be tragic. As fundie Christians would have it, school children would be taught that the bibles are literally true and that soundly based scientific principles, when not accord with the biblical interpretation, would cease to be fact.

Childrens minds would be confused because fear, ancient superstition and myth masquerading as science would be used to instill fear and superstition. Children in public schools should be encouraged to explore their curiosity about nature, science and the natural world and to use their curiosity to arrive at the facts of a matter by rational deduction framed by the discipline of the scientific method. Any attempts to indoctrinate our public school children with false information, fear instilling doctrines and ancient superstitions based on the unscientific hypotheses of christian creationists would be a tragedy.

Yes they are hollie,because if their arguments were no threat your side would not resort to attacking ones intelligence or their character. They sure as heck can't take on their arguments.

I was certain you would make every effort to avoid the salient points in my post because that would require you to actually counter with relevant points.

As I noted, Christian ministries are not a threat to the knowledge and discipline of science. Fundie Christians are only an annoyance in that they wish to impose fundamentalist christianity into the public schools and transform young minds into vacant slates.

Fortunately, the courts have been uncompromising in their dismissal of stealth fundamentalist christianity disguised as ID'iosy.

 

[Hollie]

Youwerecreated & Little Nipper,

If Noah's ark took place just 4000 years ago and only eight people were on the ark, how could there be 7 billion people now?

And why would the gawds provide for incestuous relationships (Noah's immediate family) as the means to repopulate the planet?

You need to read your bible noah's sons had wives that were not related to them. Evolution allows and needed incest to populate the earth to but God is wrong because he may have allowed it at a time when man was closer to perfection with less chance of passing on genetic disorders. God did put a stop to it at a certain point because he knew the harm that would come if it was still practiced.

If you think about it since evolution is your answer on how the planet got filled with living organisms,incestral relationships had to populate the earth. How did groups of organisms survive this practice if they were not near perfection ?

You have become so comfortable with lies on behalf of christianity that you just make up nonsensical claims as you go. You should actually read your bibles and understand that according to the Noah tale, incestuous relations are an inevitable conclusion, at least by those not addled by fundie indoctrination.

Your second paragraph is a total joke.

 

[Hollie]

Youwerecreated & Little Nipper,

If Noah's ark took place just 4000 years ago and only eight people were on the ark, how could there be 7 billion people now?

No one knows exactly when the flood took place.

Thinking humans know that no global flood took place.

The flood tale in the various bibles is simply a re-telling of earlier food tales. The men who wrote the bibles passed on that tale as they did with other earlier tales.

Why do you think the Jewish scriptures are a part of Christianity?