Critics of Israel: What WOULD have been the Proper Response by Israel to the Hamas Attacks?

[Oldestyle]

You cannot hold onto land seized in a war. Period.

Show me a map that didn't change at the end of a war, Billo? That might be the dumbest thing you've posted in long time!

 

[Oldestyle]

With all due respect, Ringo? It wouldn't take a genius to figure out that the Gaza Strip is NOT going to be a place you want to be as soon as news stories started coming out about the Hamas terrorist attacks that killed over a thousand Israelis! That happened a week ago. Anyone with any common sense should have known that the response to that attack was going to be epic.

 

[Kruska]

You cannot hold onto land seized in a war. Period.

That is an absolute false and even 'extremely" naive statement - regarding the factual territorial existence of today's countries.

Wales, Scotland and North-Irland belong to who? aka constitute what nation? right the UK
The Basque territories and Land's belong to who? aka constitute what nation? right Spain and France
The entire territory of today's USA is based on occupying/seizing territory that formerly belonged and was settled by others.
The same applies to Russia and any other country on this planet - including even Switzerland.

Just as e.g. the USA will highly unlikely allow/grant for an independent Hawaii or e.g. Guam, Samoa etc. - the same applies to e.g. Israel having conquered occupied e.g. the Golan Heights.
The Sinai was returned to Egypt due to a peace deal. The Kingdom of Jordan retracted it's territorial claim onto the West-Bank in 1988.

Israels problem and issue is that they simply do not want to return land to Palestinian-Arabs, that had been assigned to them by the British and the UN. Since they have conquered and occupied it since 1948. Therefore IMO Israel also doesn't need to complain about Palestinian-Arab violence directed at them.

That the killing of civilians - committed by both sides is a despicable action - is also understood.

 

[eagle1462010]

That is an absolute false and even 'extremely" naive statement - regarding the factual territorial existence of today's countries.

Wales, Scotland and North-Irland belong to who? aka constitute what nation? right the UK
The Basque territories and Land's belong to who? aka constitute what nation? right Spain and France
The entire territory of today's USA is based on occupying/seizing territory that formerly belonged and was settled by others.
The same applies to Russia and any other country on this planet - including even Switzerland.

Just as e.g. the USA will highly unlikely allow/grant for an independent Hawaii or e.g. Guam, Samoa etc. - the same applies to e.g. Israel having conquered occupied e.g. the Golan Heights.
The Sinai was returned to Egypt due to a peace deal. The Kingdom of Jordan retracted it's territorial claim onto the West-Bank in 1988.

Israels problem and issue is that they simply do not want to return land to Palestinian-Arabs, that had been assigned to them by the British and the UN. Since they have conquered and occupied it since 1948. Therefore IMO Israel also doesn't need to complain about Palestinian-Arab violence directed at them.

That the killing of civilians - committed by both sides is a despicable action - is also understood.

To state they conquered it is a partial Lie. Yes, they won it on the battlefield, but it is a Lie as that battle was FORCED on them by arab nations of that time.

The palestinians refused the UN offer of Statehood. Israel accepted.

The arab nations said dont sign. We will drive Israel into the ocean and you will have it ALL.

They lost.

Arafat was offered a State as well. Again, they refused.

They will only accept Israels destruction and all land. For over 7 decades this is the truth.

 

[JoeB131]

You appear to live in fantasyland. That would not happen.

Oh, I think it's pretty much inevitable. Just like the end of South Africa Apartheid was inevitable.

Satan can't give anyone anything. The one true God is not imaginary, you just don't believe. Good luck.

Allah and Yahweh are the same fucked up God. I know it's easy to get them confused with Satan, as the Bible God likes to murder babies and torture his followers.

Israel's claim to the land is not dependent on land "seized in war" (despite her being the constant target of annihilation). Her claim to the land is a legal one based on various treaties and other legal instruments.

And when did the Palestinians agree to those "Legal instruments"?

The same dead kids that your so called "freedom fighters" hid behind as they fired thousands of rockets into civilian areas of Israel? It's the GOAL of Hamas to have as many dead children as possible! Think about that. They're literally willing to kill the children of their fellow Palestinians in order to make Israel look bad. That might be even sicker than cutting off the heads of Jewish children.

What makes Israel look bad is that they bomb the Palestinians to start with. They were bombing them before the attack on 10/7.

 

[JoeB131]

With all due respect, Ringo? It wouldn't take a genius to figure out that the Gaza Strip is NOT going to be a place you want to be as soon as news stories started coming out about the Hamas terrorist attacks that killed over a thousand Israelis! That happened a week ago. Anyone with any common sense should have known that the response to that attack was going to be epic.

So here's how that's going to play out.

The Zionists will bomb Gaza and kill a lot more Palestinian kids than Israeli kids were killed on 10/7.
The world that is all flying Zionist Flags will suddenly be shocked and horrified.
There will probably be a ground assault, which will get bogged down when Hamas uses IED's and other tactics to kill Zionist soldiers.
Then the Zionists will pull back, and Palestinians will hate them even more.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Billo_Really]

Sure, who wants to fuss with pesky legal stuff like treaties and peace agreements anyway. Occupation is simply a matter of subjective opinion. If you self-identify as occupied, you must be occupied.

Wrong! Every country on the planet considers this area occupied by the Israeli's. End the occupation and you end the violence.

BTW, you just murdered 70 women and children trying to escape Gaza with a missile strike! You people are inhuman!

 

[Billo_Really]

That is an absolute false and even 'extremely" naive statement - regarding the factual territorial existence of today's countries.

Wales, Scotland and North-Irland belong to who? aka constitute what nation? right the UK
The Basque territories and Land's belong to who? aka constitute what nation? right Spain and France
The entire territory of today's USA is based on occupying/seizing territory that formerly belonged and was settled by others.
The same applies to Russia and any other country on this planet - including even Switzerland.

Just as e.g. the USA will highly unlikely allow/grant for an independent Hawaii or e.g. Guam, Samoa etc. - the same applies to e.g. Israel having conquered occupied e.g. the Golan Heights.
The Sinai was returned to Egypt due to a peace deal. The Kingdom of Jordan retracted it's territorial claim onto the West-Bank in 1988.

Israels problem and issue is that they simply do not want to return land to Palestinian-Arabs, that had been assigned to them by the British and the UN. Since they have conquered and occupied it since 1948. Therefore IMO Israel also doesn't need to complain about Palestinian-Arab violence directed at them.

That the killing of civilians - committed by both sides is a despicable action - is also understood.

Conquer by conquest was outlawed after WWII.

 

[eagle1462010]

Wrong! Every country on the planet considers this area occupied by the Israeli's. End the occupation and you end the violence.

BTW, you just murdered 70 women and children trying to escape Gaza with a missile strike! You people are inhuman!

 

[Likkmee]

Not violence ! Crop dusters filled with pork oil. Hell or Christianity.Problem over

 

[Billo_Really]

Show me a map that didn't change at the end of a war, Billo? That might be the dumbest thing you've posted in long time!

Conquer by conquest was outlawed after WWII.

 

[Billo_Really]

You're just making that up, on purpose. It's the Palestinians who want dead Jews.

You just murdered 70 women and children trying to escape Gaza with a missile strike! You're the ones killing them!

 

[eagle1462010]

You just murdered 70 women and children trying to escape Gaza with a missile strike! You're the ones killing them!

War is murder. Who started the War and is now hiding behind these children?

 

[Billo_Really]

War is murder. Who started the War and is now hiding behind these children?

Israel started this war with a Missile strike on the al-aqsa mosque.

 

[eagle1462010]

Israel started this war with a Missile strike on the al-aqsa mosque.

BS

Now tell me the details of end occupation.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Conquer by conquest was outlawed after WWII.

So was targeting babies.

 

[Billo_Really]

BS

Now tell me the details of end occupation.

Do your homework first, junior, before you debate with the big boys.

 

[eagle1462010]

Do your homework first, junior, before you debate with the big boys.

Debate what? You havent detailed shit

 

[Billo_Really]

So was targeting babies.

Then why does Israeli snipers target them?