Current COVID-19 Mortality Rate: 1.35%

[Zander]

Our first COVID Positive person was Jan 24th

Our first death was Sadie Hawkins day, Feb 29th, 3 1/2 weeks ago, we now have over 900 deaths in 3.5 weeks...180 deaths yesterday....

I don't think it's going as well as right winger Trumpsters are claiming...

I'd like to see the CDC put up the numbers for the seasonal Flu deaths and compare them to Covid-19.

I'd also like to see how many people died of cancer, heart disease, and lung disease too.

Why aren't they publishing those?

 

[OldLady]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Things are moving so fast, it's now up to 1.37% of confirmed cases, but to put things in perspective, it is among the lowest rates among developed countries of any size.

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics

www.realclearpolitics.com

Hopefully you realize how many people are in ICU's who will ultimately die and that we're a month behind Italy.

No, you don't ... Never mind

This is just you hoping for the worst for America. We are not a month behind Italy. Italy is still behind us. Because the EU never closed its borders between member states, and because Italy is a prime tourist location, its population infected people continued to enter Italy even as the crisis grew to an unsupportable size. To make matters worse, Italy has a much older population than the US, so it mortality rate is naturally much higher.

If you look at the statistics for EU countries, those with a high rate of tourism have a high rate of infection and those with a lower rate of tourism have a lower rate of infection. President Trump's early action to cut off travel from countries with high infection rates is the reason we have a so much lower mortality rate than most other developed countries of any size.

In 2005, the latest statistic I could find, we have over 1 BILLION Tourists a year in the USA

So our tourism from other nations is HUGE

Tourism in the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

In the U.S., tourism is among the three largest employers in 29 states, employing 7.3 million in 2004, to take care of 1.19 billion trips tourists took in the U.S. in 2005.[citation needed] As of 2007, there are 2,462 registered National Historic Landmarks (NHL) recognized by the United States government. As of 2018, New York City is the most visited destination in the United States, followed by Los Angeles, Orlando, Las Vegas, and Chicago.

Tourists spend more money in the United States than any other country, while attracting the second-highest number of tourists after France and Spain.[2][3] The discrepancy may be explained by longer stays in the US.[3]

All true and that's why President Trump's early decision to ban travel from places with high infection rates was so important in saving us from the horror show the EU is now experiencing. The EU still has not banned travel from places with high infection rates, and although some member states have, since they have open borders with other member states, infected people can land elsewhere in the EU and travel to Rome an kill Italians.

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Things are moving so fast, it's now up to 1.37% of confirmed cases, but to put things in perspective, it is among the lowest rates among developed countries of any size.

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics

www.realclearpolitics.com

Hopefully you realize how many people are in ICU's who will ultimately die and that we're a month behind Italy.

No, you don't ... Never mind

Italy diagnosed their first case they same day we did.

Okay, you go with that.

Italy's Coronavirus Nightmare Could Happen in U.S. Within Days or Weeks, Ex-CDC Chief Says

Whether the U.S. health care system buckles like Italy’s “really depends on how vigorously and promptly we do social distancing,” said a former CDC chief.

theintercept.com

The Intercept?

Italy confirms first 2 cases of coronavirus: prime minister - National | Globalnews.ca

Two Chinese tourists who were visiting Italy had contracted the virus, said Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte. Checks were being made to reconstruct the path of the two people to avoid further risks.

globalnews.ca

And their first local case on 2-22

Italian man dies from coronavirus as number of confirmed cases jump in Italy

An elderly Italian man dies after being infected with coronavirus, becoming the first Italian victim of the disease.

www.abc.net.au

We're going to become Italy. I'd say in 2-3 more weeks. They ARE way ahead of us. So is the rest of Europe.

Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy

Largest daily jump in Italy’s death toll, as WHO warns the world’s youth they are not invincible against COVID-19.

www.aljazeera.com

You hope we will become Italy, but there is no basis in fact to support your hope for this.

Yes there is actually - I don't make this shit up, I listen to the doctors and scientists. We are on precisely the same trajectory.

And NO - suggesting that a fellow American hopes we become Italy is unAmerican and goofy.

Whether you are making this shit up yourself or listening to other people who are making it up, there is no basis in fact for believing the US will experience what italy is experiencing. No other nation on Earth is experiencing what Italy is experiencing, so why would you think the US will experience what is happening in Italy instead of what is happening in Germany, which is doing much better than Italy, unless you are expressing you hope for the US to go through all the same suffering and death Italy is going through because you think it will be bad for President Trump. You may technically be an American, but you are clearly no one's fellow American.

Dr. Love didn't make it up. It's what some experts are saying. I know we can't predict the future, but they've been pretty onpoint so far.

I don't know which experts you are talking about, but what I have heard is that the crisis will get worse before it gets better but not that it will be the worst in the world, which is what Dr. Love is predicting. There is no rational basis for saying it will be like Italy's rather than like Germany's, which is much better, unless you are expressing a wish for the crisis to be that bad because you believe it will be bad for Trump, as Dr. Love clearly does.

Of course I don't wish us to surpass Italy in this pandemic. I doubt if Dr. Love does either, but you'll think what you want.

Don't put TOO much reliance on the temperature for solving this problem. The article I linked didn't go into any actual #'s so I don't know just how much of a slow down it will provide. The fact that the warmer states (except Louisiana) seem to be experiencing less new cases than colder states, it's not that summer is going to lick this thing. Even my article said that warmer weather might help slow transmission ALONG WITH STRICT MEASURES to stop the spread. And how many buildings and homes in the deep south don't have air conditioning running all summer? Cool and dry air is what coronavirus likes.

From what I've read, we don't really know why flu viruses seem to disappear in warm weather, so we don't know if this virus will react the same way, so there is some reason to hope for the best. In fact, we don't know at this point if we are approaching the peak of the curve or not.

I am always HOPING for the best. I just don't ignore the people who know a lot more about it than I do.

 

[eagle1462010]

Don't put TOO much reliance on the temperature for solving this problem. The article I linked didn't go into any actual #'s so I don't know just how much of a slow down it will provide. The fact that the warmer states (except Louisiana) seem to be experiencing less new cases than colder states, it's not that summer is going to lick this thing. Even my article said that warmer weather might help slow transmission ALONG WITH STRICT MEASURES to stop the spread. And how many buildings and homes in the deep south don't have air conditioning running all summer? Cool and dry air is what coronavirus likes.

We don't have a lot of High Rises down here.........even though they say it really can't be spread via ventilation.......other studies say it can.......

In New York......I'd bet some of the ventilation is COMMUNITY ventilation.....and even in Window units......it was found in Hong Kong for SARs that wind currents spread the virus High rise to high rise.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/ced2/a164b88dcab4e87cf739ad97fc3c98458019.pdf

Figure 1. Typical floor plan for high-rise residential apartment buildings, typically around 30 stories high. In this plan, 8 units on each floor share interior corridors and the three lifts. This investigation is focused on the vertical transmission pattern in high-rise residential buildings observed during the SARS outbreak in the spring of 2003 in Hong Kong. In apartment building A, which is about 30 story high, and where five households were affected with eleven SARS infection cases, RNA fragments of SARS virus were detected within the sampled deposits on the window sills of the upper floors of the two index patients’ flats; and in one of these two upper floor households there were no infected SARS cases. In another high-rise building B, all the 6 infection cases in 3 households occurred along one vertical block. In the widely-publicized outbreak in another residential estate, which includes five blocks of 30 story apartment buildings, and where a total number of 321 infections occurred, only one case occurred below the 8th floor. While the transmission paths of such large scale outbreaks remain a myth up to the present moment (Yu et al 2004), it appears that there was a vertical spread pattern.

CONCLUSION AND IMPLICATIONS During the SARS outbreak, the presence of SARS virus RNA strings were found in the window deposits, and this study revealed the virus could have been transported up by the single side ventilation air flow. It should be noted that, depending on the window opening habits of the residents, this could be a continuous transmission route. More epidemiological Proceedings of Clima 2007 Wellbeing Indoors data on other aerosol transmitted diseases would also be helpful to further confirm this significant transmission route. The confirmation of the transmission route can have a number of implications to both building design and infectious disease control. With respect to the former, windows flush with façade should be avoided, and ledges added above the window can reduce the transmission to a certain extent. It appears that complete avoidance of this cross contamination through ventilation control is costly and difficult. With respect to the latter, more targeted and sooner intervention can be implemented in case of any highlyinfectious disease outbreaks, which may be more cost-effective.

 

[DrLove]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Things are moving so fast, it's now up to 1.37% of confirmed cases, but to put things in perspective, it is among the lowest rates among developed countries of any size.

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics

www.realclearpolitics.com

Hopefully you realize how many people are in ICU's who will ultimately die and that we're a month behind Italy.

No, you don't ... Never mind

This is just you hoping for the worst for America. We are not a month behind Italy. Italy is still behind us. Because the EU never closed its borders between member states, and because Italy is a prime tourist location, its population infected people continued to enter Italy even as the crisis grew to an unsupportable size. To make matters worse, Italy has a much older population than the US, so it mortality rate is naturally much higher.

If you look at the statistics for EU countries, those with a high rate of tourism have a high rate of infection and those with a lower rate of tourism have a lower rate of infection. President Trump's early action to cut off travel from countries with high infection rates is the reason we have a so much lower mortality rate than most other developed countries of any size.

In 2005, the latest statistic I could find, we have over 1 BILLION Tourists a year in the USA

So our tourism from other nations is HUGE

Tourism in the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

In the U.S., tourism is among the three largest employers in 29 states, employing 7.3 million in 2004, to take care of 1.19 billion trips tourists took in the U.S. in 2005.[citation needed] As of 2007, there are 2,462 registered National Historic Landmarks (NHL) recognized by the United States government. As of 2018, New York City is the most visited destination in the United States, followed by Los Angeles, Orlando, Las Vegas, and Chicago.

Tourists spend more money in the United States than any other country, while attracting the second-highest number of tourists after France and Spain.[2][3] The discrepancy may be explained by longer stays in the US.[3]

All true and that's why President Trump's early decision to ban travel from places with high infection rates was so important in saving us from the horror show the EU is now experiencing. The EU still has not banned travel from places with high infection rates, and although some member states have, since they have open borders with other member states, infected people can land elsewhere in the EU and travel to Rome an kill Italians.

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Things are moving so fast, it's now up to 1.37% of confirmed cases, but to put things in perspective, it is among the lowest rates among developed countries of any size.

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics

www.realclearpolitics.com

Hopefully you realize how many people are in ICU's who will ultimately die and that we're a month behind Italy.

No, you don't ... Never mind

Italy diagnosed their first case they same day we did.

Okay, you go with that.

Italy's Coronavirus Nightmare Could Happen in U.S. Within Days or Weeks, Ex-CDC Chief Says

Whether the U.S. health care system buckles like Italy’s “really depends on how vigorously and promptly we do social distancing,” said a former CDC chief.

theintercept.com

The Intercept?

Italy confirms first 2 cases of coronavirus: prime minister - National | Globalnews.ca

Two Chinese tourists who were visiting Italy had contracted the virus, said Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte. Checks were being made to reconstruct the path of the two people to avoid further risks.

globalnews.ca

And their first local case on 2-22

Italian man dies from coronavirus as number of confirmed cases jump in Italy

An elderly Italian man dies after being infected with coronavirus, becoming the first Italian victim of the disease.

www.abc.net.au

We're going to become Italy. I'd say in 2-3 more weeks. They ARE way ahead of us. So is the rest of Europe.

Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy

Largest daily jump in Italy’s death toll, as WHO warns the world’s youth they are not invincible against COVID-19.

www.aljazeera.com

You hope we will become Italy, but there is no basis in fact to support your hope for this.

Yes there is actually - I don't make this shit up, I listen to the doctors and scientists. We are on precisely the same trajectory.

And NO - suggesting that a fellow American hopes we become Italy is unAmerican and goofy.

Whether you are making this shit up yourself or listening to other people who are making it up, there is no basis in fact for believing the US will experience what italy is experiencing. No other nation on Earth is experiencing what Italy is experiencing, so why would you think the US will experience what is happening in Italy instead of what is happening in Germany, which is doing much better than Italy, unless you are expressing you hope for the US to go through all the same suffering and death Italy is going through because you think it will be bad for President Trump. You may technically be an American, but you are clearly no one's fellow American.

Dr. Love didn't make it up. It's what some experts are saying. I know we can't predict the future, but they've been pretty onpoint so far.

I don't know which experts you are talking about, but what I have heard is that the crisis will get worse before it gets better but not that it will be the worst in the world, which is what Dr. Love is predicting. There is no rational basis for saying it will be like Italy's rather than like Germany's, which is much better, unless you are expressing a wish for the crisis to be that bad because you believe it will be bad for Trump, as Dr. Love clearly does.

You're not particularly rational, nor are you a scientist. Yes, we are trending in the same manner as Italy.

Italy’s suffering offers potential terrifying coronavirus preview for US

A tsunami of coronavirus victims that is overwhelming health systems in Italy offers a frightening preview of what could lie ahead for the United States as case counts grow and hospitals run out of…

thehill.com

PS: Your claim that I "wish" for such events is stupid.

 

[DrLove]

Yes, it does have a very low mortality rate.
The highest is Italy, with 4%, and Germany has kept it as low as 0.4%.
So this is not the big threat some fear it might have become.
China shows the total is not that bad, since they are over it mostly.

But what we DO have to remember is that COVID-19 is not going away.
Everyone will get it eventually, if not this year, then in one of the following years.
And it will get more lethal over time.
The safest way to get resistance is to get it sooner rather than later.
However, if they get a successful vaccine, that would be best.

How does it get “more lethal in time” when people develop antibodies against it, vaccinations are created, and as Spring and Summer come the UV radiation destroys it.

You are truly an uniformed dumb ass.

And yet another faux scientist ^ chimes in.

 

[Leo123]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Since we're pretty much refusing to test anyone unless they're so seriously ill that they need immediate medical care, those numbers are skewed. We should wait on all these numbers. We haven't done enough testing to have a clue.

I have had to post OL this because so many in America are not taking this COVID-19 seriously and it is NOTHING like just having the flu. This is possibly my longest ever post and I think it is the most important post I will ever have posted.

First last week I was tested for COVID-19 and the result was Negative. This is great of course, but because of my Government job I am having to visit certain areas that now require me to wear a full Hazmat suit and these things are a BASTARD, they are so hot it's incredible, or I don't know maybe it's just me that get's very warm wearing them.

I post this as someone who for three weeks has had their ENTIRE LIFE turned upside down after my existing Government position, my own Ministry was told to coordinate with the Ministry of Health into a Government COVID-19 Task Force locking EVERYTHING DOWN to protect the population (more on what we have been doing below after the two links, but I am not able to go into specifics as it would violate Government Protocol.)

At your current rate America will pass China for most COVID-19 Total Cases in approx 7 days, you are as right now 19,000 Total Cases behind them you have 7.460 New Cases today and China has 47 New Cases today.

I think this time next week either America or Italy will be in first place and China down to third place after them being number one place since the beginning.

The Italy Total Cases they are 7.000 behind China as of now with 5.210 New Cases today.

The Top Three of COVID-19 now are:

China Total Cases 81.218 New Cases 47
Italy Total Cases 74.386 New Cases 5.210
USA Total Cases 62.316 New Cases 7.460

Stay safe the SHTF in America VERY soon with COVID-19 and remember THIS today in Britain they say goodbye to a girl age 21 years in age with NO existing medical problems she died of COVID-19. This is NOT just a virus that infects those aged 70 and over, this is a virus that is infecting ALL age groups. This is NOT just a virus that infects those with pre-existing conditions.

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https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-03-25/british-21-year-old-with-no-pre-existing-conditions-dies-from-coronavirus-sun

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Chloe Middleton: Woman, 21, died with 'no underlying health issues'

The family of Chloe Middleton say they are "shattered beyond belief".

www.bbc.com

This is NOT hyperbole, this is NOT a HOAX, this is REAL and it's about do you want to live or do you want to die, it's about do you want to stay safe or do you want to think you are immortal. You are NOT being asked to do a great deal, you are just being asked to for approx 21 days to 30 days to REDUCE to the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM your social interactions. It is NOT that difficult to do. You are being asked to do this for approx 21 days to 30 days so that YOUR nations health system can get a grip, so that THEY can NOT go BEHIND the curve but attempt to get AHEAD of the curve. If you get behind the curve you lose control, if you get ahead of the curve you can hope to flatten the curve.

To reduce the risk of getting COVID-19 or of spreading COVID-19 (you CAN have it, many are showing no symptoms UNTIL they have been tested, this is WHY the majority of New Cases in EVERY nation is getting higher every day because more testing is now occuring and this is how the infected are being found etc)

So to reduce the risks to YOU and to OTHERS in your community you must do the following for approx 21-30 days:

Stay INDOORS. ONLY go out to buy food or medicines. Wear protective gloves to go out, keep them on INSIDE stores etc. Wearing a MASK over your mouth and nose will NOT prevent you from getting COVID-19. Do NOT stand nearer than EIGHT FEET to another person. Make sure you are NOT near anyone displaying symptoms of coughing OR sweating on the forehead, IF ANYONE in the store is displaying these symptoms then ALERT store staff and ask that the person is asked to LEAVE the store. OUTDOORS in stores do NOT touch your face, this NOT to touch your nose, ears or eyes. WASH YOUR HANDS WITH SOAP AND SCRUB UNDER YOUR NAILS WITH A NAILBRUSH AS SOON AS YOU GET HOME and THROW AWAY the protective gloves, use a fresh pair of protective gloves next time you go out. ISOLATE from elderly family members, keep in touch with them via phone, email etc DO NOT GO AND PHYSICALLY VISIT THEM.

I post this as someone who for three weeks has been working in a Government COVID-19 Task Force locking EVERYTHING DOWN to protect the population. I have been in PMs for these three weeks basically updating some peoples at this forum privately about the IMMENSE STRUGGLE we are having CONTAINING this monster, I have been pre-warning these Americans NOT to laugh this off as some minor thing but to take seriously this the pre-warning. To those who THINK this is no worse than flu, you do not know what you are talking about. The other day we were shown some XRays of COVID-19 patients lungs and it was HORRIFIC, this was a cross section of age groups from 25-35, 45-55, 55-65 NOBODY was even over 70 years in age, the lungs are FULL of fluid.

COVID-19 the first few days you get flu like symptoms of fever and dry cough OR you might NOT have ANY symptoms and within 2 days this bastard goes from that intoi double pneumonia.

So the IDIOTS in nations who are going to parks, beaches, bars, meeting with groups of friends etc they could have NO symptoms but as they are NOT tested they COULD have COVID-19 and then by their behaviour are spreading it..

The situation in Italy, think of this, the situation in Italy now began with two Chinese tourists who had COVID-19. And look at what has resulted in Italy with just TWO PEOPLES who initially were infected.

^^^^

I feel it is my duty as a human being to make this above post. I have been pre-warning Americans about this MONSTER and I feel too many Americans are still not taking this bastard seriously. I make the above post as a human being for other human beings, there is NO POLITICS involved, I do not care if you are Left or Right or Independent or Green or No Politics, we are ALL MORTAL, NOBODY is invincible, we ALL turn to dust. Life is NOT a game, you only get one life, you should value it and when a MONSTER is on the loose like COVID-19 when we have NO CURE then you NEED to pay attention to this and not play games with YOUR life or ANYONE else's life.

Stay Safe. We will win.

You are correct, cars have to be STOPPED. After all, cars are the biggest killer of all.

What a stupid response. Go away.

Oh I see, so you're OK writing off vehicle deaths. Good to know.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Our first COVID Positive person was Jan 24th

Our first death was Sadie Hawkins day, Feb 29th, 3 1/2 weeks ago, we now have over 900 deaths in 3.5 weeks...180 deaths yesterday....

I don't think it's going as well as right winger Trumpsters are claiming...

This is because the misconception was spread around that this was no worse than a flu situation, you also had a lot of confused Pseudo-Science going on and combined together that is why you are approx 7 days away from overtaking China and Italy. You wasted crucial time by not putting in place lockdown measures three weeks ago and the lockdown measures in EVERY American State, even now the lockdowns in America are all at random in some States but not in other States and during all of this you still are allowing State to State travel and so you'll be having those infected but possibly not showing symptoms going into another State and then spreading it more into that State. Not a good situation and this is ONE situation that you cannot shoot yourselves out of with 300 million guns or whatever.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Since we're pretty much refusing to test anyone unless they're so seriously ill that they need immediate medical care, those numbers are skewed. We should wait on all these numbers. We haven't done enough testing to have a clue.

I have had to post OL this because so many in America are not taking this COVID-19 seriously and it is NOTHING like just having the flu. This is possibly my longest ever post and I think it is the most important post I will ever have posted.

First last week I was tested for COVID-19 and the result was Negative. This is great of course, but because of my Government job I am having to visit certain areas that now require me to wear a full Hazmat suit and these things are a BASTARD, they are so hot it's incredible, or I don't know maybe it's just me that get's very warm wearing them.

I post this as someone who for three weeks has had their ENTIRE LIFE turned upside down after my existing Government position, my own Ministry was told to coordinate with the Ministry of Health into a Government COVID-19 Task Force locking EVERYTHING DOWN to protect the population (more on what we have been doing below after the two links, but I am not able to go into specifics as it would violate Government Protocol.)

At your current rate America will pass China for most COVID-19 Total Cases in approx 7 days, you are as right now 19,000 Total Cases behind them you have 7.460 New Cases today and China has 47 New Cases today.

I think this time next week either America or Italy will be in first place and China down to third place after them being number one place since the beginning.

The Italy Total Cases they are 7.000 behind China as of now with 5.210 New Cases today.

The Top Three of COVID-19 now are:

China Total Cases 81.218 New Cases 47
Italy Total Cases 74.386 New Cases 5.210
USA Total Cases 62.316 New Cases 7.460

Stay safe the SHTF in America VERY soon with COVID-19 and remember THIS today in Britain they say goodbye to a girl age 21 years in age with NO existing medical problems she died of COVID-19. This is NOT just a virus that infects those aged 70 and over, this is a virus that is infecting ALL age groups. This is NOT just a virus that infects those with pre-existing conditions.

View attachment 315210

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-03-25/british-21-year-old-with-no-pre-existing-conditions-dies-from-coronavirus-sun

View attachment 315211

Chloe Middleton: Woman, 21, died with 'no underlying health issues'

The family of Chloe Middleton say they are "shattered beyond belief".

www.bbc.com

This is NOT hyperbole, this is NOT a HOAX, this is REAL and it's about do you want to live or do you want to die, it's about do you want to stay safe or do you want to think you are immortal. You are NOT being asked to do a great deal, you are just being asked to for approx 21 days to 30 days to REDUCE to the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM your social interactions. It is NOT that difficult to do. You are being asked to do this for approx 21 days to 30 days so that YOUR nations health system can get a grip, so that THEY can NOT go BEHIND the curve but attempt to get AHEAD of the curve. If you get behind the curve you lose control, if you get ahead of the curve you can hope to flatten the curve.

To reduce the risk of getting COVID-19 or of spreading COVID-19 (you CAN have it, many are showing no symptoms UNTIL they have been tested, this is WHY the majority of New Cases in EVERY nation is getting higher every day because more testing is now occuring and this is how the infected are being found etc)

So to reduce the risks to YOU and to OTHERS in your community you must do the following for approx 21-30 days:

Stay INDOORS. ONLY go out to buy food or medicines. Wear protective gloves to go out, keep them on INSIDE stores etc. Wearing a MASK over your mouth and nose will NOT prevent you from getting COVID-19. Do NOT stand nearer than EIGHT FEET to another person. Make sure you are NOT near anyone displaying symptoms of coughing OR sweating on the forehead, IF ANYONE in the store is displaying these symptoms then ALERT store staff and ask that the person is asked to LEAVE the store. OUTDOORS in stores do NOT touch your face, this NOT to touch your nose, ears or eyes. WASH YOUR HANDS WITH SOAP AND SCRUB UNDER YOUR NAILS WITH A NAILBRUSH AS SOON AS YOU GET HOME and THROW AWAY the protective gloves, use a fresh pair of protective gloves next time you go out. ISOLATE from elderly family members, keep in touch with them via phone, email etc DO NOT GO AND PHYSICALLY VISIT THEM.

I post this as someone who for three weeks has been working in a Government COVID-19 Task Force locking EVERYTHING DOWN to protect the population. I have been in PMs for these three weeks basically updating some peoples at this forum privately about the IMMENSE STRUGGLE we are having CONTAINING this monster, I have been pre-warning these Americans NOT to laugh this off as some minor thing but to take seriously this the pre-warning. To those who THINK this is no worse than flu, you do not know what you are talking about. The other day we were shown some XRays of COVID-19 patients lungs and it was HORRIFIC, this was a cross section of age groups from 25-35, 45-55, 55-65 NOBODY was even over 70 years in age, the lungs are FULL of fluid.

COVID-19 the first few days you get flu like symptoms of fever and dry cough OR you might NOT have ANY symptoms and within 2 days this bastard goes from that intoi double pneumonia.

So the IDIOTS in nations who are going to parks, beaches, bars, meeting with groups of friends etc they could have NO symptoms but as they are NOT tested they COULD have COVID-19 and then by their behaviour are spreading it..

The situation in Italy, think of this, the situation in Italy now began with two Chinese tourists who had COVID-19. And look at what has resulted in Italy with just TWO PEOPLES who initially were infected.

^^^^

I feel it is my duty as a human being to make this above post. I have been pre-warning Americans about this MONSTER and I feel too many Americans are still not taking this bastard seriously. I make the above post as a human being for other human beings, there is NO POLITICS involved, I do not care if you are Left or Right or Independent or Green or No Politics, we are ALL MORTAL, NOBODY is invincible, we ALL turn to dust. Life is NOT a game, you only get one life, you should value it and when a MONSTER is on the loose like COVID-19 when we have NO CURE then you NEED to pay attention to this and not play games with YOUR life or ANYONE else's life.

Stay Safe. We will win.

You are correct, cars have to be STOPPED. After all, cars are the biggest killer of all.

What a stupid response. Go away.

Oh I see, so you're OK writing off vehicle deaths. Good to know.

Stop Trolling. You are Off Topic in relation to the OP thread topic.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

you don't actually know the number of total cases all you know is the number of positive test results.

That's the morality rate among confirmed cases and at this point that's be best estimate we have of how dangerous the virus is.

And it's just a guess.

And you'll notice in the OP he said TOTAL cases not total positive test results

Total cases and positive test results are the same thing. The term, positive test result, means the CDC has confirmed the individual has the virus. Until the CDC does this, the term, presumed positive test result, is used. In any case, a mortality rate of 1.35% is very good compared to other developed nations of any size.

No not really.

total cases include people who had the virus, recovered and never got tested

Nope.

yes.

Would you say the total number of people in the US are only the number of registered voters, or only the number of people over 30 years old?

No you wouldn't

well maybe you would

The same metrics are used to determine the mortality for all diseases, idiot. You are just parroting desperate talking points from the same propagandists who told you this virus was a hoax.

and they are still wrong

Sorry, but I trust the science more than a dipshit on a forum.

There has to be a common metric. Not some imaginary bullshit.

The common metric says the flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%, and right now the mortality rate for COVID-19 in the US is thirteen and a half times higher.

Period.

So just ignore the fact that every single person who walks into any DR's office can get a rapid flu test but only some people meet the threshold for a corona test for which they have to drive to some testing center with a prescription to get tested.

This is remedial analytical thinking. When nearly 100% of people with even the mildest symptoms of the flu are tested and a smaller percentage of people with only the most severe corona symptoms are getting tested the mortality rates calculated for the latter will be less accurate in direct proportion to the difference in percentage of the number of tests performed.

It takes months to develop a good test and then it gets modified several times...we started the seasonal flu test a year ago....the corona test needed time to configure...and produce....I say we did a hell of a job if you ask me....

We could have done a lot better. Other countries managed to scale up much quicker than us.

That's simply not true. The EU countries are struggling to catch up with us and aside from China which is an authoritarian state no developed countries of any size have done as well as us.

South Korea scaled up testing far, far quicker than us.

The fastest in the world from what I have read, yet their mortality rate is very similar to ours. Now SK like everyone else is experiencing shortages in masks and other gear and is trying to import it like everyone else.

 

[eagle1462010]

We're going to become Italy. I'd say in 2-3 more weeks. They ARE way ahead of us. So is the rest of Europe.

No we won't US death rates are already flattening out...and warmer temps do weaken this virus and spring is here....

Warmer temps don't seem to be weakening the virus in Louisiana where the temps are in the 80's and 90.

It has only been that for a day or two. Lafayette is just hitting the 80’s for a couple of hours a day for the last couple of days.

Doesn't seem to matter. Australia is in lockdown. While the number of cases is still fairly low, they double about every three days over the last two weeks. This seems to indicate that higher temperatures are no hindrance to this virus's spread.

HUMIDITY.........DROPLETS form and fall........I've shown videos and articles on it.......

While they say they are not sure if it's SEASONABLE..........it's gonna be.........SARs was and this will be too.

You don't see many getting the Flu in the summer......while this isn't classified as a Flu ....it transmits the same way..........gets treated the same way........kills you the same way....except it hardens the lungs.....from what I've read......

Summer is gonna slow this thing down.

Whatever you say Mr Science

I READ........I LEARN.......You don't........

Riddle me this.........which major city needs to read the article I posted after this one......... A city that said to open windows for Fresh Air if the weather gets warmer..........And Which city is the epicenter of that city.

Which city MAYOR NEEDS TO READ THAT ARTICLE oh WISE ONE.........

They don't need to open those windows............because that SARS study SAYS DON'T DO IT.

 

[OldLady]

Don't put TOO much reliance on the temperature for solving this problem. The article I linked didn't go into any actual #'s so I don't know just how much of a slow down it will provide. The fact that the warmer states (except Louisiana) seem to be experiencing less new cases than colder states, it's not that summer is going to lick this thing. Even my article said that warmer weather might help slow transmission ALONG WITH STRICT MEASURES to stop the spread. And how many buildings and homes in the deep south don't have air conditioning running all summer? Cool and dry air is what coronavirus likes.

We don't have a lot of High Rises down here.........even though they say it really can't be spread via ventilation.......other studies say it can.......

In New York......I'd bet some of the ventilation is COMMUNITY ventilation.....and even in Window units......it was found in Hong Kong for SARs that wind currents spread the virus High rise to high rise.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/ced2/a164b88dcab4e87cf739ad97fc3c98458019.pdf

Figure 1. Typical floor plan for high-rise residential apartment buildings, typically around 30 stories high. In this plan, 8 units on each floor share interior corridors and the three lifts. This investigation is focused on the vertical transmission pattern in high-rise residential buildings observed during the SARS outbreak in the spring of 2003 in Hong Kong. In apartment building A, which is about 30 story high, and where five households were affected with eleven SARS infection cases, RNA fragments of SARS virus were detected within the sampled deposits on the window sills of the upper floors of the two index patients’ flats; and in one of these two upper floor households there were no infected SARS cases. In another high-rise building B, all the 6 infection cases in 3 households occurred along one vertical block. In the widely-publicized outbreak in another residential estate, which includes five blocks of 30 story apartment buildings, and where a total number of 321 infections occurred, only one case occurred below the 8th floor. While the transmission paths of such large scale outbreaks remain a myth up to the present moment (Yu et al 2004), it appears that there was a vertical spread pattern.

CONCLUSION AND IMPLICATIONS During the SARS outbreak, the presence of SARS virus RNA strings were found in the window deposits, and this study revealed the virus could have been transported up by the single side ventilation air flow. It should be noted that, depending on the window opening habits of the residents, this could be a continuous transmission route. More epidemiological Proceedings of Clima 2007 Wellbeing Indoors data on other aerosol transmitted diseases would also be helpful to further confirm this significant transmission route. The confirmation of the transmission route can have a number of implications to both building design and infectious disease control. With respect to the former, windows flush with façade should be avoided, and ledges added above the window can reduce the transmission to a certain extent. It appears that complete avoidance of this cross contamination through ventilation control is costly and difficult. With respect to the latter, more targeted and sooner intervention can be implemented in case of any highlyinfectious disease outbreaks, which may be more cost-effective.

Holy crow. Even getting a noseful of fresh air is a risk! I can't function at that level. But I'll bet you're right that part of the reason New Yorkers are so hard hit is those high rise apartment buildings with shared air.

 

[Leo123]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Since we're pretty much refusing to test anyone unless they're so seriously ill that they need immediate medical care, those numbers are skewed. We should wait on all these numbers. We haven't done enough testing to have a clue.

I have had to post OL this because so many in America are not taking this COVID-19 seriously and it is NOTHING like just having the flu. This is possibly my longest ever post and I think it is the most important post I will ever have posted.

First last week I was tested for COVID-19 and the result was Negative. This is great of course, but because of my Government job I am having to visit certain areas that now require me to wear a full Hazmat suit and these things are a BASTARD, they are so hot it's incredible, or I don't know maybe it's just me that get's very warm wearing them.

I post this as someone who for three weeks has had their ENTIRE LIFE turned upside down after my existing Government position, my own Ministry was told to coordinate with the Ministry of Health into a Government COVID-19 Task Force locking EVERYTHING DOWN to protect the population (more on what we have been doing below after the two links, but I am not able to go into specifics as it would violate Government Protocol.)

At your current rate America will pass China for most COVID-19 Total Cases in approx 7 days, you are as right now 19,000 Total Cases behind them you have 7.460 New Cases today and China has 47 New Cases today.

I think this time next week either America or Italy will be in first place and China down to third place after them being number one place since the beginning.

The Italy Total Cases they are 7.000 behind China as of now with 5.210 New Cases today.

The Top Three of COVID-19 now are:

China Total Cases 81.218 New Cases 47
Italy Total Cases 74.386 New Cases 5.210
USA Total Cases 62.316 New Cases 7.460

Stay safe the SHTF in America VERY soon with COVID-19 and remember THIS today in Britain they say goodbye to a girl age 21 years in age with NO existing medical problems she died of COVID-19. This is NOT just a virus that infects those aged 70 and over, this is a virus that is infecting ALL age groups. This is NOT just a virus that infects those with pre-existing conditions.

View attachment 315210

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-03-25/british-21-year-old-with-no-pre-existing-conditions-dies-from-coronavirus-sun

View attachment 315211

Chloe Middleton: Woman, 21, died with 'no underlying health issues'

The family of Chloe Middleton say they are "shattered beyond belief".

www.bbc.com

This is NOT hyperbole, this is NOT a HOAX, this is REAL and it's about do you want to live or do you want to die, it's about do you want to stay safe or do you want to think you are immortal. You are NOT being asked to do a great deal, you are just being asked to for approx 21 days to 30 days to REDUCE to the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM your social interactions. It is NOT that difficult to do. You are being asked to do this for approx 21 days to 30 days so that YOUR nations health system can get a grip, so that THEY can NOT go BEHIND the curve but attempt to get AHEAD of the curve. If you get behind the curve you lose control, if you get ahead of the curve you can hope to flatten the curve.

To reduce the risk of getting COVID-19 or of spreading COVID-19 (you CAN have it, many are showing no symptoms UNTIL they have been tested, this is WHY the majority of New Cases in EVERY nation is getting higher every day because more testing is now occuring and this is how the infected are being found etc)

So to reduce the risks to YOU and to OTHERS in your community you must do the following for approx 21-30 days:

Stay INDOORS. ONLY go out to buy food or medicines. Wear protective gloves to go out, keep them on INSIDE stores etc. Wearing a MASK over your mouth and nose will NOT prevent you from getting COVID-19. Do NOT stand nearer than EIGHT FEET to another person. Make sure you are NOT near anyone displaying symptoms of coughing OR sweating on the forehead, IF ANYONE in the store is displaying these symptoms then ALERT store staff and ask that the person is asked to LEAVE the store. OUTDOORS in stores do NOT touch your face, this NOT to touch your nose, ears or eyes. WASH YOUR HANDS WITH SOAP AND SCRUB UNDER YOUR NAILS WITH A NAILBRUSH AS SOON AS YOU GET HOME and THROW AWAY the protective gloves, use a fresh pair of protective gloves next time you go out. ISOLATE from elderly family members, keep in touch with them via phone, email etc DO NOT GO AND PHYSICALLY VISIT THEM.

I post this as someone who for three weeks has been working in a Government COVID-19 Task Force locking EVERYTHING DOWN to protect the population. I have been in PMs for these three weeks basically updating some peoples at this forum privately about the IMMENSE STRUGGLE we are having CONTAINING this monster, I have been pre-warning these Americans NOT to laugh this off as some minor thing but to take seriously this the pre-warning. To those who THINK this is no worse than flu, you do not know what you are talking about. The other day we were shown some XRays of COVID-19 patients lungs and it was HORRIFIC, this was a cross section of age groups from 25-35, 45-55, 55-65 NOBODY was even over 70 years in age, the lungs are FULL of fluid.

COVID-19 the first few days you get flu like symptoms of fever and dry cough OR you might NOT have ANY symptoms and within 2 days this bastard goes from that intoi double pneumonia.

So the IDIOTS in nations who are going to parks, beaches, bars, meeting with groups of friends etc they could have NO symptoms but as they are NOT tested they COULD have COVID-19 and then by their behaviour are spreading it..

The situation in Italy, think of this, the situation in Italy now began with two Chinese tourists who had COVID-19. And look at what has resulted in Italy with just TWO PEOPLES who initially were infected.

^^^^

I feel it is my duty as a human being to make this above post. I have been pre-warning Americans about this MONSTER and I feel too many Americans are still not taking this bastard seriously. I make the above post as a human being for other human beings, there is NO POLITICS involved, I do not care if you are Left or Right or Independent or Green or No Politics, we are ALL MORTAL, NOBODY is invincible, we ALL turn to dust. Life is NOT a game, you only get one life, you should value it and when a MONSTER is on the loose like COVID-19 when we have NO CURE then you NEED to pay attention to this and not play games with YOUR life or ANYONE else's life.

Stay Safe. We will win.

You are correct, cars have to be STOPPED. After all, cars are the biggest killer of all.

What a stupid response. Go away.

Oh I see, so you're OK writing off vehicle deaths. Good to know.

Stop Trolling. You are Off Topic in relation to the OP thread topic.

The OP is about Covid death rate. I am merely pointing out that more people die in car accidents. Perspective Lucy, something I thought you could use.

 

[DrLove]

Our first COVID Positive person was Jan 24th

Our first death was Sadie Hawkins day, Feb 29th, 3 1/2 weeks ago, we now have over 900 deaths in 3.5 weeks...180 deaths yesterday....

I don't think it's going as well as right winger Trumpsters are claiming...

I'd like to see the CDC put up the numbers for the seasonal Flu deaths and compare them to Covid-19.

I'd also like to see how many people died of cancer, heart disease, and lung disease too.

Why aren't they publishing those?

Another know-nothing clown ^ weighs in.
ENTIRELY irrelevant - For the billionth time, this is NOT the flu.
We have no vaccine or treatment - It is WAY early to make such proclamations.
Comparing mortality rate is as useless as tits on a boar.
Shall we henceforth refer to you "Dr Zander"?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Our first COVID Positive person was Jan 24th

Our first death was Sadie Hawkins day, Feb 29th, 3 1/2 weeks ago, we now have over 900 deaths in 3.5 weeks...180 deaths yesterday....

I don't think it's going as well as right winger Trumpsters are claiming...

Why not? If you believe the scientists who claim the crisis will follow a bell shaped curve, the higher the infection rate the closer we are to the peak and recovery.

 

[eagle1462010]

Don't put TOO much reliance on the temperature for solving this problem. The article I linked didn't go into any actual #'s so I don't know just how much of a slow down it will provide. The fact that the warmer states (except Louisiana) seem to be experiencing less new cases than colder states, it's not that summer is going to lick this thing. Even my article said that warmer weather might help slow transmission ALONG WITH STRICT MEASURES to stop the spread. And how many buildings and homes in the deep south don't have air conditioning running all summer? Cool and dry air is what coronavirus likes.

We don't have a lot of High Rises down here.........even though they say it really can't be spread via ventilation.......other studies say it can.......

In New York......I'd bet some of the ventilation is COMMUNITY ventilation.....and even in Window units......it was found in Hong Kong for SARs that wind currents spread the virus High rise to high rise.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/ced2/a164b88dcab4e87cf739ad97fc3c98458019.pdf

Figure 1. Typical floor plan for high-rise residential apartment buildings, typically around 30 stories high. In this plan, 8 units on each floor share interior corridors and the three lifts. This investigation is focused on the vertical transmission pattern in high-rise residential buildings observed during the SARS outbreak in the spring of 2003 in Hong Kong. In apartment building A, which is about 30 story high, and where five households were affected with eleven SARS infection cases, RNA fragments of SARS virus were detected within the sampled deposits on the window sills of the upper floors of the two index patients’ flats; and in one of these two upper floor households there were no infected SARS cases. In another high-rise building B, all the 6 infection cases in 3 households occurred along one vertical block. In the widely-publicized outbreak in another residential estate, which includes five blocks of 30 story apartment buildings, and where a total number of 321 infections occurred, only one case occurred below the 8th floor. While the transmission paths of such large scale outbreaks remain a myth up to the present moment (Yu et al 2004), it appears that there was a vertical spread pattern.

CONCLUSION AND IMPLICATIONS During the SARS outbreak, the presence of SARS virus RNA strings were found in the window deposits, and this study revealed the virus could have been transported up by the single side ventilation air flow. It should be noted that, depending on the window opening habits of the residents, this could be a continuous transmission route. More epidemiological Proceedings of Clima 2007 Wellbeing Indoors data on other aerosol transmitted diseases would also be helpful to further confirm this significant transmission route. The confirmation of the transmission route can have a number of implications to both building design and infectious disease control. With respect to the former, windows flush with façade should be avoided, and ledges added above the window can reduce the transmission to a certain extent. It appears that complete avoidance of this cross contamination through ventilation control is costly and difficult. With respect to the latter, more targeted and sooner intervention can be implemented in case of any highlyinfectious disease outbreaks, which may be more cost-effective.

Holy crow. Even getting a noseful of fresh air is a risk! I can't function at that level. But I'll bet you're right that part of the reason New Yorkers are so hard hit is those high rise apartment buildings with shared air.

Someone needs to send them those studies.............I'm no SCIENTIST........but I CAN READ.......

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Since we're pretty much refusing to test anyone unless they're so seriously ill that they need immediate medical care, those numbers are skewed. We should wait on all these numbers. We haven't done enough testing to have a clue.

I have had to post OL this because so many in America are not taking this COVID-19 seriously and it is NOTHING like just having the flu. This is possibly my longest ever post and I think it is the most important post I will ever have posted.

First last week I was tested for COVID-19 and the result was Negative. This is great of course, but because of my Government job I am having to visit certain areas that now require me to wear a full Hazmat suit and these things are a BASTARD, they are so hot it's incredible, or I don't know maybe it's just me that get's very warm wearing them.

I post this as someone who for three weeks has had their ENTIRE LIFE turned upside down after my existing Government position, my own Ministry was told to coordinate with the Ministry of Health into a Government COVID-19 Task Force locking EVERYTHING DOWN to protect the population (more on what we have been doing below after the two links, but I am not able to go into specifics as it would violate Government Protocol.)

At your current rate America will pass China for most COVID-19 Total Cases in approx 7 days, you are as right now 19,000 Total Cases behind them you have 7.460 New Cases today and China has 47 New Cases today.

I think this time next week either America or Italy will be in first place and China down to third place after them being number one place since the beginning.

The Italy Total Cases they are 7.000 behind China as of now with 5.210 New Cases today.

The Top Three of COVID-19 now are:

China Total Cases 81.218 New Cases 47
Italy Total Cases 74.386 New Cases 5.210
USA Total Cases 62.316 New Cases 7.460

Stay safe the SHTF in America VERY soon with COVID-19 and remember THIS today in Britain they say goodbye to a girl age 21 years in age with NO existing medical problems she died of COVID-19. This is NOT just a virus that infects those aged 70 and over, this is a virus that is infecting ALL age groups. This is NOT just a virus that infects those with pre-existing conditions.

View attachment 315210

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-03-25/british-21-year-old-with-no-pre-existing-conditions-dies-from-coronavirus-sun

View attachment 315211

Chloe Middleton: Woman, 21, died with 'no underlying health issues'

The family of Chloe Middleton say they are "shattered beyond belief".

www.bbc.com

This is NOT hyperbole, this is NOT a HOAX, this is REAL and it's about do you want to live or do you want to die, it's about do you want to stay safe or do you want to think you are immortal. You are NOT being asked to do a great deal, you are just being asked to for approx 21 days to 30 days to REDUCE to the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM your social interactions. It is NOT that difficult to do. You are being asked to do this for approx 21 days to 30 days so that YOUR nations health system can get a grip, so that THEY can NOT go BEHIND the curve but attempt to get AHEAD of the curve. If you get behind the curve you lose control, if you get ahead of the curve you can hope to flatten the curve.

To reduce the risk of getting COVID-19 or of spreading COVID-19 (you CAN have it, many are showing no symptoms UNTIL they have been tested, this is WHY the majority of New Cases in EVERY nation is getting higher every day because more testing is now occuring and this is how the infected are being found etc)

So to reduce the risks to YOU and to OTHERS in your community you must do the following for approx 21-30 days:

Stay INDOORS. ONLY go out to buy food or medicines. Wear protective gloves to go out, keep them on INSIDE stores etc. Wearing a MASK over your mouth and nose will NOT prevent you from getting COVID-19. Do NOT stand nearer than EIGHT FEET to another person. Make sure you are NOT near anyone displaying symptoms of coughing OR sweating on the forehead, IF ANYONE in the store is displaying these symptoms then ALERT store staff and ask that the person is asked to LEAVE the store. OUTDOORS in stores do NOT touch your face, this NOT to touch your nose, ears or eyes. WASH YOUR HANDS WITH SOAP AND SCRUB UNDER YOUR NAILS WITH A NAILBRUSH AS SOON AS YOU GET HOME and THROW AWAY the protective gloves, use a fresh pair of protective gloves next time you go out. ISOLATE from elderly family members, keep in touch with them via phone, email etc DO NOT GO AND PHYSICALLY VISIT THEM.

I post this as someone who for three weeks has been working in a Government COVID-19 Task Force locking EVERYTHING DOWN to protect the population. I have been in PMs for these three weeks basically updating some peoples at this forum privately about the IMMENSE STRUGGLE we are having CONTAINING this monster, I have been pre-warning these Americans NOT to laugh this off as some minor thing but to take seriously this the pre-warning. To those who THINK this is no worse than flu, you do not know what you are talking about. The other day we were shown some XRays of COVID-19 patients lungs and it was HORRIFIC, this was a cross section of age groups from 25-35, 45-55, 55-65 NOBODY was even over 70 years in age, the lungs are FULL of fluid.

COVID-19 the first few days you get flu like symptoms of fever and dry cough OR you might NOT have ANY symptoms and within 2 days this bastard goes from that intoi double pneumonia.

So the IDIOTS in nations who are going to parks, beaches, bars, meeting with groups of friends etc they could have NO symptoms but as they are NOT tested they COULD have COVID-19 and then by their behaviour are spreading it..

The situation in Italy, think of this, the situation in Italy now began with two Chinese tourists who had COVID-19. And look at what has resulted in Italy with just TWO PEOPLES who initially were infected.

^^^^

I feel it is my duty as a human being to make this above post. I have been pre-warning Americans about this MONSTER and I feel too many Americans are still not taking this bastard seriously. I make the above post as a human being for other human beings, there is NO POLITICS involved, I do not care if you are Left or Right or Independent or Green or No Politics, we are ALL MORTAL, NOBODY is invincible, we ALL turn to dust. Life is NOT a game, you only get one life, you should value it and when a MONSTER is on the loose like COVID-19 when we have NO CURE then you NEED to pay attention to this and not play games with YOUR life or ANYONE else's life.

Stay Safe. We will win.

You are correct, cars have to be STOPPED. After all, cars are the biggest killer of all.

What a stupid response. Go away.

Oh I see, so you're OK writing off vehicle deaths. Good to know.

Look I'm Pro-Trump, but your type need to get your head out of the sand and face reality and put down the Kool-Aid at a time like this, if Trump told you to slit your throat you would, you either have a very low IQ or you are just a typical Bot. Donald Trump was WRONG to treat this NOT seriously from the second week, not only him but in Britain Boris Johnson dropped the ball also which is why they now have COVID-19 exploding and are having to get the army to build a field hospital with 4,000 beds and another one planned with another 4,000 beds. Boris is a moron for suggesting they go for the Herd Immunity thing.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Don't put TOO much reliance on the temperature for solving this problem. The article I linked didn't go into any actual #'s so I don't know just how much of a slow down it will provide. The fact that the warmer states (except Louisiana) seem to be experiencing less new cases than colder states, it's not that summer is going to lick this thing. Even my article said that warmer weather might help slow transmission ALONG WITH STRICT MEASURES to stop the spread. And how many buildings and homes in the deep south don't have air conditioning running all summer? Cool and dry air is what coronavirus likes.

FL is fresh out of that. Maybe all those Canuckians will be OK.
They don't leave until like...mid-April.

 

[DrLove]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Since we're pretty much refusing to test anyone unless they're so seriously ill that they need immediate medical care, those numbers are skewed. We should wait on all these numbers. We haven't done enough testing to have a clue.

I have had to post OL this because so many in America are not taking this COVID-19 seriously and it is NOTHING like just having the flu. This is possibly my longest ever post and I think it is the most important post I will ever have posted.

First last week I was tested for COVID-19 and the result was Negative. This is great of course, but because of my Government job I am having to visit certain areas that now require me to wear a full Hazmat suit and these things are a BASTARD, they are so hot it's incredible, or I don't know maybe it's just me that get's very warm wearing them.

I post this as someone who for three weeks has had their ENTIRE LIFE turned upside down after my existing Government position, my own Ministry was told to coordinate with the Ministry of Health into a Government COVID-19 Task Force locking EVERYTHING DOWN to protect the population (more on what we have been doing below after the two links, but I am not able to go into specifics as it would violate Government Protocol.)

At your current rate America will pass China for most COVID-19 Total Cases in approx 7 days, you are as right now 19,000 Total Cases behind them you have 7.460 New Cases today and China has 47 New Cases today.

I think this time next week either America or Italy will be in first place and China down to third place after them being number one place since the beginning.

The Italy Total Cases they are 7.000 behind China as of now with 5.210 New Cases today.

The Top Three of COVID-19 now are:

China Total Cases 81.218 New Cases 47
Italy Total Cases 74.386 New Cases 5.210
USA Total Cases 62.316 New Cases 7.460

Stay safe the SHTF in America VERY soon with COVID-19 and remember THIS today in Britain they say goodbye to a girl age 21 years in age with NO existing medical problems she died of COVID-19. This is NOT just a virus that infects those aged 70 and over, this is a virus that is infecting ALL age groups. This is NOT just a virus that infects those with pre-existing conditions.

View attachment 315210

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-03-25/british-21-year-old-with-no-pre-existing-conditions-dies-from-coronavirus-sun

View attachment 315211

Chloe Middleton: Woman, 21, died with 'no underlying health issues'

The family of Chloe Middleton say they are "shattered beyond belief".

www.bbc.com

This is NOT hyperbole, this is NOT a HOAX, this is REAL and it's about do you want to live or do you want to die, it's about do you want to stay safe or do you want to think you are immortal. You are NOT being asked to do a great deal, you are just being asked to for approx 21 days to 30 days to REDUCE to the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM your social interactions. It is NOT that difficult to do. You are being asked to do this for approx 21 days to 30 days so that YOUR nations health system can get a grip, so that THEY can NOT go BEHIND the curve but attempt to get AHEAD of the curve. If you get behind the curve you lose control, if you get ahead of the curve you can hope to flatten the curve.

To reduce the risk of getting COVID-19 or of spreading COVID-19 (you CAN have it, many are showing no symptoms UNTIL they have been tested, this is WHY the majority of New Cases in EVERY nation is getting higher every day because more testing is now occuring and this is how the infected are being found etc)

So to reduce the risks to YOU and to OTHERS in your community you must do the following for approx 21-30 days:

Stay INDOORS. ONLY go out to buy food or medicines. Wear protective gloves to go out, keep them on INSIDE stores etc. Wearing a MASK over your mouth and nose will NOT prevent you from getting COVID-19. Do NOT stand nearer than EIGHT FEET to another person. Make sure you are NOT near anyone displaying symptoms of coughing OR sweating on the forehead, IF ANYONE in the store is displaying these symptoms then ALERT store staff and ask that the person is asked to LEAVE the store. OUTDOORS in stores do NOT touch your face, this NOT to touch your nose, ears or eyes. WASH YOUR HANDS WITH SOAP AND SCRUB UNDER YOUR NAILS WITH A NAILBRUSH AS SOON AS YOU GET HOME and THROW AWAY the protective gloves, use a fresh pair of protective gloves next time you go out. ISOLATE from elderly family members, keep in touch with them via phone, email etc DO NOT GO AND PHYSICALLY VISIT THEM.

I post this as someone who for three weeks has been working in a Government COVID-19 Task Force locking EVERYTHING DOWN to protect the population. I have been in PMs for these three weeks basically updating some peoples at this forum privately about the IMMENSE STRUGGLE we are having CONTAINING this monster, I have been pre-warning these Americans NOT to laugh this off as some minor thing but to take seriously this the pre-warning. To those who THINK this is no worse than flu, you do not know what you are talking about. The other day we were shown some XRays of COVID-19 patients lungs and it was HORRIFIC, this was a cross section of age groups from 25-35, 45-55, 55-65 NOBODY was even over 70 years in age, the lungs are FULL of fluid.

COVID-19 the first few days you get flu like symptoms of fever and dry cough OR you might NOT have ANY symptoms and within 2 days this bastard goes from that intoi double pneumonia.

So the IDIOTS in nations who are going to parks, beaches, bars, meeting with groups of friends etc they could have NO symptoms but as they are NOT tested they COULD have COVID-19 and then by their behaviour are spreading it..

The situation in Italy, think of this, the situation in Italy now began with two Chinese tourists who had COVID-19. And look at what has resulted in Italy with just TWO PEOPLES who initially were infected.

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I feel it is my duty as a human being to make this above post. I have been pre-warning Americans about this MONSTER and I feel too many Americans are still not taking this bastard seriously. I make the above post as a human being for other human beings, there is NO POLITICS involved, I do not care if you are Left or Right or Independent or Green or No Politics, we are ALL MORTAL, NOBODY is invincible, we ALL turn to dust. Life is NOT a game, you only get one life, you should value it and when a MONSTER is on the loose like COVID-19 when we have NO CURE then you NEED to pay attention to this and not play games with YOUR life or ANYONE else's life.

Stay Safe. We will win.

You are correct, cars have to be STOPPED. After all, cars are the biggest killer of all.

What a stupid response. Go away.

Oh I see, so you're OK writing off vehicle deaths. Good to know.

Stop Trolling. You are Off Topic in relation to the OP thread topic.

The OP is about Covid death rate. I am merely pointing out that more people die in car accidents. Perspective Lucy, something I thought you could use.

ANOTHER entirely worthless analogy. More people die in car accidents - SERIOUSLY?

 

[Leo123]

Our first COVID Positive person was Jan 24th

Our first death was Sadie Hawkins day, Feb 29th, 3 1/2 weeks ago, we now have over 900 deaths in 3.5 weeks...180 deaths yesterday....

I don't think it's going as well as right winger Trumpsters are claiming...

I'd like to see the CDC put up the numbers for the seasonal Flu deaths and compare them to Covid-19.

I'd also like to see how many people died of cancer, heart disease, and lung disease too.

Why aren't they publishing those?

Another know-nothing clown ^ weighs in.
ENTIRELY irrelevant - For the billionth time, this is NOT the flu.
We have no vaccine or treatment - It is WAY early to make such proclamations.
Comparing mortality rate is as useless as tits on a boar.
Shall we henceforth refer to you "Dr Zander"?

There IS a treatment and your doctor can give it to you. It's called Hydroxycholroquine. True, it is not a vaccine however it has cured folks in pretty bad shape due to contracting Covid.

 

[BluesLegend]

Look the bottom line is this damn virus will kill 1-3 million American citizens if we do nothing. After we defeat this thing China needs to be called to heel, clean up their filthy living habits and stop spawning these damn things.