DACA...the "hot potato" now in congress' inept hands....

[Votto]

I just watched Jeff Sessions get up and announce to the country that DACA was Unconstitutional.

Shrug. And no one is held accountable.

Amazing.

What do you mean? Should someone go to prison?

You tell me. What should be done?

Are they really going to lock up the nations first Black President? No, and Obama knew that well in advance and took full advantage.

 

[nat4900]

The last I checked, the POTUS swore to uphold the law.

Here, nitwit......LEARN something.

As the Supreme Court explained in 2012, [Arizona v. U.S.] the executive branch has “broad discretion” in matters of immigration and deportations. According to the Court, federal law lays out classes of foreign nationals that the executive “may” remove from the country within their discretion, but federal officials also retain the power to “decide whether it makes sense to pursue removal at all.” Both President Ronald Reagan and President George H.W. Bush issued orders similar to President Obama’s, which gave a broad class of immigrants an opportunity to remain in the country even though they were subject to deportation.

Obama’s Legal Justification For His Immigration Order Is Actually Far Too Timid

 

[bendog]

Well, considering it's congress's gutless failure to find a compromise on immigration that would stop people from coming here illegally to find illegal employment, and in some cases send their children to our schools ..... It does seem to me that congress otta pass a fucking law.

Congress is out to destroy Trump, so they will predictably do to DACA what they did with Obamacare which is nothing.

A majority of the senate would keep DACA in some form, assuming they have the guts

The gops in congress weren't initially hostile to the Yuiuge Orange Turd

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I used to think the Left was just the opposing party.....

Those days are gone.

Now they are a foreign enemy of my Constitution and my freedom

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

The last I checked, the POTUS swore to uphold the law.

Here, nitwit......LEARN something.

As the Supreme Court explained in 2012, [Arizona v. U.S.] the executive branch has “broad discretion” in matters of immigration and deportations. According to the Court, federal law lays out classes of foreign nationals that the executive “may” remove from the country within their discretion, but federal officials also retain the power to “decide whether it makes sense to pursue removal at all.” Both President Ronald Reagan and President George H.W. Bush issued orders similar to President Obama’s, which gave a broad class of immigrants an opportunity to remain in the country even though they were subject to deportation.

Obama’s Legal Justification For His Immigration Order Is Actually Far Too Timid

So don't bitch when Trump acts on immigration.... nitwit

 

[TomParks]

I say cut off all free shit to them and those who want to work can file for permits and the freeloaders can get out. You take the perks away they will self deport

 

[Votto]

Well, considering it's congress's gutless failure to find a compromise on immigration that would stop people from coming here illegally to find illegal employment, and in some cases send their children to our schools ..... It does seem to me that congress otta pass a fucking law.

Congress is out to destroy Trump, so they will predictably do to DACA what they did with Obamacare which is nothing.

A majority of the senate would keep DACA in some form, assuming they have the guts

The gops in congress weren't initially hostile to the Yuiuge Orange Turd

Congress knows that if they don't follow the Bernie Sanders play book and behave he will unleash more of his assassins on them.

 

[nat4900]

If you consider a President who protects AMERICANS and enforces FAIR immigration law then I have advice for you.....

Get the fuck out of my country....
And take that asswipe communist Nat4900 with you

I love it when right wing morons......like you......flip out......LOL

Here, let me explain it to your half brain.......President have wide authority to enact immigration dicta (as established by the SCOTUS)........

NOW, if Trump had the orange balls to do something, he COULD revoke Obama's DACA with one of his cute EO.............HE WON'T because he is too scared of the consequences....
So,like the chicken shit that he is, he bounced the decision to Congress.......

Live with it.................LOL

 

[nat4900]

Wait, so it's cowardly to confront DACA through Congress but not cowardly to pass DACA without Congress?

YES !!!!

It took guts for Obama to FIRST ask congress to do something about an immigration bill.....Since congress (led by the GOP) REFUSED to do anything.....Obama ACTED.....

Now, if your orange clown was NOT a coward, he could issue an EO countering Obama's.....but he is too fucking scared, so he bounced it back to congress to make a decision.

Thank me later for explaining this to you......LOL

 

[bendog]

Well, considering it's congress's gutless failure to find a compromise on immigration that would stop people from coming here illegally to find illegal employment, and in some cases send their children to our schools ..... It does seem to me that congress otta pass a fucking law.

Congress is out to destroy Trump, so they will predictably do to DACA what they did with Obamacare which is nothing.

A majority of the senate would keep DACA in some form, assuming they have the guts

The gops in congress weren't initially hostile to the Yuiuge Orange Turd

Congress knows that if they don't follow the Bernie Sanders play book and behave he will unleash more of his assassins on them.

Oh please, like Bernie has any power in the states that will decide the senate. LOL

the very left of the dems may require them to run Bernie or Pocahantos and thereby allow Trump a second term. That's it.

 

[bendog]

Wait, so it's cowardly to confront DACA through Congress but not cowardly to pass DACA without Congress?

YES !!!!

It took guts for Obama to FIRST ask congress to do something about an immigration bill.....Since congress (led by the GOP) REFUSED to do anything.....Obama ACTED.....

Now, if your orange clown was NOT a coward, he could issue an EO countering Obama's.....but he is too fucking scared, so he bounced it back to congress to make a decision.

Thank me later for explaining this to you......LOL

Obama required some right to stay for long time illegal residents. The gop will not pass that.

 

[nat4900]

A good day for America thanks to Trump's leadership

Such stupid love of Trump.....MORON, Trump didn't do squat....The orange charlatan gave it to congress to do something by the timeline of six months.......LOL

 

[bendog]

A good day for America thanks to Trump's leadership

Such stupid love of Trump.....MORON, Trump didn't do squat....The orange charlatan gave it to congress to do something in six months.......LOL

He could throw his shit at them through the bars of the zoo's primate exhibit, and the Trumpettes would gobble it up like prime rib. LOL

 

[nat4900]

So don't bitch when Trump acts on immigration.... nitwit

He has a chance to do it today.....Either he signs an EO repealing DACA (that would take some guts)....OR, he will hand everything over to congress to do what he is too scared to do himself...

 

[Unkotare]

Sorry guy those were mostly dems leaders and Obama supporters in Charlottesville.

Hyperbole from a tard. When the neighbors start cursing me, become violent and are lying about me and start claiming my property as their own by illegal means they can go straight to hell. We have laws and boundaries in all aspects of life for a reason.

Well, yes, but so far, Trump hasn't actually referred to them as the "Nuremberg Laws"...yet.

But, I'm curious how many Latino children have cursed you, become violent with you, lied about you, and stolen your property? Since you want to deport them all, I am guessing that a couple of million have. Or, was it just 20, and you have decided that those 20 is a fair representation of all of them? Or was it actually "zero", and you are just using hateful rhetoric to justify you bigotry?

Sorry guy those were mostly dems leaders and Obama supporters in Charlottesville.

Hyperbole from a tard. When the neighbors start cursing me, become violent and are lying about me and start claiming my property as their own by illegal means they can go straight to hell. We have laws and boundaries in all aspects of life for a reason.

Well, yes, but so far, Trump hasn't actually referred to them as the "Nuremberg Laws"...yet.

But, I'm curious how many Latino children have cursed you, become violent with you, lied about you, and stolen your property? Since you want to deport them all, I am guessing that a couple of million have. Or, was it just 20, and you have decided that those 20 is a fair representation of all of them? Or was it actually "zero", and you are just using hateful rhetoric to justify you bigotry?

The only one spewing rhetoric is you. The Immigration Act of 1924 limited the number of immigrants allowed entry into the United States through a national origins quota. It is the law of the land and with out a doubt it predates Adolf Hitler being elected as Chancellor of Germany. Donald Trump was born June 14, 1946. Sell your bullshit some place else.


Again most of those DACA children are adults now. Anyone here illegally needs to be sent back to their own country. Several million illegally voting in elections should bother most citizens. Having the knowledge that employers that hire illegals are taking away from employers who do things legally should also raise the ire of most citizens also but you conveniently fail to say anything about that. Neither do you mention those American citizens displaced workers who were put out of work in favor of cheap illegal labor. Plant and spread your lies with someone else that may buy your chit I don't.

Feel free to take the time to watch the videos in this thread. I grew up with people that used to live in those areas.

What California Residents Really Think of Sanctuary City Status

Several million illegals voting in elections? Would you have a link for that? I mean, other than a bald faced unsupported lie from the pathological Liar in Chief, Trump?

And all these Americans who were put out of work by illegals, I am assuming that you would include the illegals that rebuilt New Orleans, after Katrina, although i can't imagine why, because it was impossible for us to find any Americans who were willing to rebuild after Katrina. You see, the Mexican came, and slept in the park and under bridges, because there were no accommodations. They ate cold food, because there were no restaurants. Or maybe you are talking about the Imperial Valley, which I pass through from time to time. Farmers are letting produce rot in the fields since immigration has been reduced, and there are, oddly enough, no Americans interested in picking oranges in 110 degree sunshine.

Embrace your bigotry, Rod. You should be proud of it. The children who were brought here and raised here, know no other home. They filed and paid their taxes. They had money withdrawn for Social Security and Medicare, which they will never see, but which will benefit you. They cleaned your motel rooms, which can not fill those jobs with anglos. As for stealing your land, I don't think so. My house, for example, has a Saguaro in the front that was alive when this land belonged to Mexico.

You stupid lazy fuck I gave you the thread link with the info in it but you didn't take the time to look at it. You are telling us that you supported human trafficking to fix your house you cheap chintzy prick. Go flagellate yourself you moron. Its not a practice I believe in but I do believe in the law. You are a whining self deprecating piece of garbage. If you don't like the laws on the books in this country get out and take your socialist agenda shit with you.

Sometimes, Rod, I don't think you like me.

But that aside, I hired whoever I could to repair my house. I didn't see you down in New Orleans offering to help, and Jimmy Carter was already working on a job in the Lower 9th Ward.FEMA didn't get around to delivering my flood insurance claim check for 6 months, which is also when they got around to bringing me a FEMA trailer. So, all of us in New Orleans did what we had to do with the resources we had.

Now, I know this is going to give you a stroke, so I should not tell you, but I will. I now live 40 miles from the Mexican border. There is a guy by the name of Juan who prunes my grapefruit and orange trees, as well as other handyman jobs from time to time. Now, I have no idea if Juan is an illegal alien or not. I have never asked. But, frankly, I don't give a rat's ass. Juan is the 4th guy I hired to do this stuff for me. The previous 3 were all anglo. The first didn't show up at all. The 2nd showed up drunk. The third one showed up, stole my power saw and tool box, and disappeared. I have recommended Juan to all my neighbors. He seems to be doing well. Last time he showed up with a newer pickup than his old one.

Is your name Juan?

 

[MrShangles]

As expected, Trump took the cowardly way out and instead of deciding on DACA through his "beloved" executive orders......gave the entire controversy to Congress with a timeline of 6 months to "resolve" the issue.

My guess is that equally cowardly congress will defy the 6 month timeline and try to wait out a decision AFTER the 2018 midterm elections.

Can anyone else foresee the political ads by democrats running for seats in the House next Spring??? .

I can see it, they will all have same play book, I Don't LIKE TRUMP vote for me. What will they run on?


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[nat4900]

He could throw his shit at them through the bars of the zoo's primate exhibit, and the Trumpettes would gobble it up like prime rib. LOL

They'd actually say, "it tastes like duck à l'orange".........LOL

 

[easyt65]

Arguments For DACA Put Americans Last

President Trump is reportedly set to scrap Barack Obama’s amnesty that offered work permits to illegal aliens brought to the U.S. as minors.

As The Washington Post’s alleged “conservative” columnist Jennifer Rubin summarized for the elite consensus on the move, it’s “Trump’s most evil act.”

Working under the false impression that those who earned protection under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) are all under 18, a plethora of pundits convinced themselves this would amount to mass deportation of children.

That’s not true at all. For one thing, a person has to be at least 15 years old to receive DACA. Government data shows that the majority of illegal immigrants receiving the deferments are 20 years or older.

These aren’t kids who now face the risk of deportation. DACA is a work permit program that offers non-citizens who came here illegally to take jobs that would otherwise likely go to Americans citizens, a fact that is getting lost in the outrage.

 

[easyt65]

Feel bad for the DACA 'children'? Blame Obama! Had he not chosen to violate the Constitution 9AGAIN) by going around congress (AGAIN) to push his personal desire into Law we wouldn't be where we are now.


Cotton: DACA ‘A Mess of President Obama’s Making’

“President Obama created this mess. And it’s landed in President Trump’s lap and our lap in the Congress. The reason we know it’s unlawful is President Obama himself said it was unlawful in 2010 and 2011 when he was asked to take these steps and did not. But he did so in 2012 in the middle of his reelection,” Cotton said on the “Hugh Hewitt Show.”


Before re-election time Obama admitted that he did not have the authority to do it. Funny how election time seems to reduce the Constitution to being 'insignificant', 2nd to getting re-elected.

 

[Conservative65]

That's why the incompetent black President did it. He didn't like that the body in government that is supposed to do things didn't do it his way. There's nothing in the Constitution that gives a timeline.

NO, moron......that "body of government" that was supposed to do something about the immigration "hot potato" CHOSE to do NOTHING..........And do you know who had the majority in that "body of government"?????...............LOL

The black President said he was going to do what he did because Congress didn't do it the way he wanted it done.

I'm yet to see a timeline in the Constitution for when they're supposed to do anything, hot potato or not.