bodecea
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- Jul 22, 2009
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I give up.
Obama has been the most transparent in history.
You're going to have to do better than that to make any cognitive sense.
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I give up.
Obama has been the most transparent in history.
I give up.
Obama has been the most transparent President in history and Ellsberg would be given a medal.
But the question is.....what does Daniel Ellsberg have to do with this current adminstration and why would he not survive?
I am simply ashamed as an American that I need to describe who Daniel Ellsberg is.
You should be more ashamed that you can't verbalize your thoughts in their entirety.
I appreciate an open and honest government (when we are operating in a government framework).
What don't you understand?
Why do you even engage with me?We all knew who Daniel Ellsberg was. We knew all about the Pentagon Papers, you stupid asshole.
What YOU had not made in any way even remotely clear was whatever petty little pointless you were trying (ineffectively) to make by referencing Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers.
You douche.
I give up.
Obama has been the most transparent President in history and Ellsberg would be given a medal.
You said he wouldn't survive.....would that medal kill him somehow?
Yeah, exactly. I get all that. What's the connection.
Ellsberg would not survive the Obama administration. Just look at Manning.
Yeah, exactly. I get all that. What's the connection.
Ellsberg would not survive the Obama administration. Just look at Manning.
Ohhh, that's what you were getting at. You even confusing your liberal buddies.
Manning is in trouble because what he did was a violation of the UCMJ, and he as in the Army. Sorry that isn't clear to you.
That said, if Manning is being prosecuted because he made information the enemy can use and puts lives in danger, he should be taken out and shot.
If he's just being prosecuted because he exposed information that embarrasses the military and government, then he should get a bad conduct discharge and that should be the end of the matter.
Final point. Manning is gay, for all you guys who tell us that ending "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was a great idea.
Yeah, exactly. I get all that. What's the connection.
Ellsberg would not survive the Obama administration. Just look at Manning.
I think he ought to have something called a "Trial" first, don't you? Or do you just want to skip that part?
Once again, if all he did was expose information that the military was deliberately hiding from the American people because it made the miltiary look bad, that isn't treason. It's a public relations problem.
I think he ought to have something called a "Trial" first, don't you? Or do you just want to skip that part?
Once again, if all he did was expose information that the military was deliberately hiding from the American people because it made the miltiary look bad, that isn't treason. It's a public relations problem.
The actual information stolen is not the issue. The issue is the action. Idiot.
Yeah, exactly. I get all that. What's the connection.
Ellsberg would not survive the Obama administration. Just look at Manning.
Ohhh, that's what you were getting at. You even confusing your liberal buddies.
Manning is in trouble because what he did was a violation of the UCMJ, and he as in the Army. Sorry that isn't clear to you.
That said, if Manning is being prosecuted because he made information the enemy can use and puts lives in danger, he should be taken out and shot.
If he's just being prosecuted because he exposed information that embarrasses the military and government, then he should get a bad conduct discharge and that should be the end of the matter.
Final point. Manning is gay, for all you guys who tell us that ending "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was a great idea.
Why do you even engage with me?We all knew who Daniel Ellsberg was. We knew all about the Pentagon Papers, you stupid asshole.
What YOU had not made in any way even remotely clear was whatever petty little pointless you were trying (ineffectively) to make by referencing Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers.
You douche.
Just go away, asshole.
I am simply ashamed as an American that I need to describe who Daniel Ellsberg is.
Final point. Manning is gay, for all you guys who tell us that ending "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was a great idea
Oh my goodness, that has SOOOO much to do with what he did.
Final point. Manning is gay, for all you guys who tell us that ending "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was a great idea
Oh my goodness, that has SOOOO much to do with what he did.
Actually, it is. I had a gay soldier in my squad when I was in the army. Didn't want to mess the kid's life up by saddling him with an administrative discharge, so I didn't push it with the C.O. But, boy, was this guy emotionally unsuited for military life.
Other guys in my squad, I'd tell them to do something, they'd be "Yes, Sergeant", this kid went into big drama every time it rained, pretty much.
Eventually, he got AIDS and died.
Somehow, I picture Manning being of the same cloth. He was just going to show those haters... Now he's probably looking at prison for the rest of his life, if he's lucky.