BlackAsCoal
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TRUTH is terrorism in America.
WTF
Yep. Sad isn't it.
Devastatingly sad.
What the hell have we become?
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TRUTH is terrorism in America.
WTF
Yep. Sad isn't it.
Moore is not worth anything near that much. Where are you getting your numbers?This is what I find interesting. Assanges bail is under 500,000 and Moore who is conservatively worth over 100 million only offers a pithy 20 grand? That's almost an insult or is he really just that cheap a bastard?
Devastatingly sad.
What the hell have we become?
I would rather Americans do not betray their fellow Americans by stealing secret information and passing it on to attention seeking fools like Assange.
You want to silence whistleblowers? Wow, your corporate overlords have taught you well.
Moore is not worth anything near that much. Where are you getting your numbers?This is what I find interesting. Assanges bail is under 500,000 and Moore who is conservatively worth over 100 million only offers a pithy 20 grand? That's almost an insult or is he really just that cheap a bastard?
TRUTH is terrorism in America.
WTF
TRUTH is terrorism in America.
WTF
We have security and secrecy for a reason. To keep people and countries safe.
Commiting espionage, like assangehole did, is not to be celebrated for any reason what so ever. and Moore is nothing but a PR seeking whore for doing this.
If you think he cares, think again.
I really do think this is a major 'Talking Point' cluster fuck for Leftists. First they were here calling for this guy's head and righteously defending their Democrat President. That was the original Talking Point they received and they sure did run with it. Now it looks like they have received new Talking Points which order them to start defending Assange. It seems the Left really is pretty confused on this one. They just can't seem to get their own Talking Points right.
I really do think this is a major 'Talking Point' cluster fuck for Leftists. First they were here calling for this guy's head and righteously defending their Democrat President. That was the original Talking Point they received and they sure did run with it. Now it looks like they have received new Talking Points which order them to start defending Assange. It seems the Left really is pretty confused on this one. They just can't seem to get their own Talking Points right.
I really do think this is a major 'Talking Point' cluster fuck for Leftists. First they were here calling for this guy's head and righteously defending their Democrat President. That was the original Talking Point they received and they sure did run with it. Now it looks like they have received new Talking Points which order them to start defending Assange. It seems the Left really is pretty confused on this one. They just can't seem to get their own Talking Points right.
I don't see this as a partisan issue.
Is absolutely every issue one that must divide America?
Besides both the left and the right rallied to villify Assange while sparing Der Spiegel, the Guardian and the NYT from most angst.
Only a minority supports Assange. Tho I suspect quite a few see that there are two sides to this issue.
This topic really highlights the degree to which you subscribe to top down authoritarianism.
I would rather Americans do not betray their fellow Americans by stealing secret information and passing it on to attention seeking fools like Assange.
You want to silence whistleblowers? Wow, your corporate overlords have taught you well.
For one, CG doesn't understand the difference between espionage which is passing on sensitive information to the enemy[and even some of our "friends"] that could hurt the country and the stuff that wikileaks published, which isn't espionage. Bradley Manning, the soldier who allegedly leaked some classified information is *NOT* being charged with espionage.
Moore is not worth anything near that much. Where are you getting your numbers?This is what I find interesting. Assanges bail is under 500,000 and Moore who is conservatively worth over 100 million only offers a pithy 20 grand? That's almost an insult or is he really just that cheap a bastard?
Moore is not worth anything near that much. Where are you getting your numbers?This is what I find interesting. Assanges bail is under 500,000 and Moore who is conservatively worth over 100 million only offers a pithy 20 grand? That's almost an insult or is he really just that cheap a bastard?
He's worths 25 million
Michael Moore Net Worth | Celebrity Net Worth
I really do think this is a major 'Talking Point' cluster fuck for Leftists. First they were here calling for this guy's head and righteously defending their Democrat President. That was the original Talking Point they received and they sure did run with it. Now it looks like they have received new Talking Points which order them to start defending Assange. It seems the Left really is pretty confused on this one. They just can't seem to get their own Talking Points right.
I don't see this as a partisan issue.
Is absolutely every issue one that must divide America?
Besides both the left and the right rallied to villify Assange while sparing Der Spiegel, the Guardian and the NYT from most angst.
Only a minority supports Assange. Tho I suspect quite a few see that there are two sides to this issue.
This topic really highlights the degree to which you subscribe to top down authoritarianism.
You want to silence whistleblowers? Wow, your corporate overlords have taught you well.
For one, CG doesn't understand the difference between espionage which is passing on sensitive information to the enemy[and even some of our "friends"] that could hurt the country and the stuff that wikileaks published, which isn't espionage. Bradley Manning, the soldier who allegedly leaked some classified information is *NOT* being charged with espionage.
Private First Class Bradley E. Manning (born December 17, 1987) is a United States Army soldier who has been arrested and charged with the unauthorized use and disclosure of U.S. classified information.
In times of war that can get you executed.
I really do think this is a major 'Talking Point' cluster fuck for Leftists. First they were here calling for this guy's head and righteously defending their Democrat President. That was the original Talking Point they received and they sure did run with it. Now it looks like they have received new Talking Points which order them to start defending Assange. It seems the Left really is pretty confused on this one. They just can't seem to get their own Talking Points right.
I don't see this as a partisan issue.
Is absolutely every issue one that must divide America?
Besides both the left and the right rallied to villify Assange while sparing Der Spiegel, the Guardian and the NYT from most angst.
Only a minority supports Assange. Tho I suspect quite a few see that there are two sides to this issue.
This topic really highlights the degree to which you subscribe to top down authoritarianism.
I hear ya but like it or not,politics plays a part in most everything. I'm pretty sure if a Republican was in there right now,the Left would have been joyously defending Assange from the very beginning. I'm just talking about what i have observed. The Left first came out and righteously defended their Democratic President while calling for Assange's head. Their spin does seem to be changing a bit now but their change was pretty slow in coming. You can't righteously defend your President on this while at the same time praising Assange. That seems very disingenuous and hypocritical to me.
For one, CG doesn't understand the difference between espionage which is passing on sensitive information to the enemy[and even some of our "friends"] that could hurt the country and the stuff that wikileaks published, which isn't espionage. Bradley Manning, the soldier who allegedly leaked some classified information is *NOT* being charged with espionage.
Private First Class Bradley E. Manning (born December 17, 1987) is a United States Army soldier who has been arrested and charged with the unauthorized use and disclosure of U.S. classified information.
In times of war that can get you executed.
Those who gave the information to wikileaks should be prosecuted, that I agree with, however, since wikileaks didn't solicit anyone to give them the information they didn't commit espionage. Bradley Manning should be punished, as a service member with a security clearance he took an oath not to reveal any information so he is wrong.
If this guy posted secret information that put American troops in harm's way such the position of troops on the battlefield and classified information about secret agents who could be killed then he is wrong and should be prosecuted, but if he's only posting the dirty laundry of politicians and their hypocrisy of how they tell people one thing and say another I say leave him the hell alone, politicians have been lying to Americans for too long.
I am always amazed at the limited intellect of seemingly intelligent people. Bass, I thought you would be able to see the incredible amount of damaged Assange has done.... not embarrassing.... but actually putting Americans in danger - our troops, and our citizens.