Debate over evolution now allowed in Tenn. schools

[OohPooPahDoo]

A victory for freedom of thought and individualism in the school, and a stinging defeat for the secular mind police. We enjoy freedom of speech, not freedom from speech you find disagreeable.

The next step is to pass laws allowing school students to debate over the shape of the Earth. The fact that the flat Earth students have been silenced is unconstitutional - the 1st amendment guarantees them as much time as they want to dispute that the Earth is round in high school science class.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Damn. This has been a freaking turkey shoot.


LOL

You're obviously new at this if you think that sort of rhetoric impresses anyone.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

A victory for freedom of thought and individualism in the school, and a stinging defeat for the secular mind police. We enjoy freedom of speech, not freedom from speech you find disagreeable.



'NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A bill that encourages classroom debate over evolution will become law in Tennessee, despite a veto campaign mounted by scientists and civil libertarians who say it will reopen a decades-old controversy over teaching creationism to the state's schoolchildren.'

Tenn. governor allows evolution debate bill to become law

Imagine the lively debate and opening of minds which can now flourish in the previously flat-earther science rooms across Tenn, and hopefully the rest of America!

What's next, astrology and alchemy classes?

Those are equally valid theories and should also be taught, along with the earth centered universe.

 

[Nosmo King]

Why do some folks believe that they, as humans, are not susceptible to the forces of the evolution process? It's easy to show how other animals evolved, and they might even be convinced of that process among the animals. But humans? Never!

I have to think that stubborn belief is driven by arrogance. Is it possible that homo sapien is a member of the mammalian group? We bear our new born live, we do not lay eggs. We nurse them as other mammals nurse their young. We have hair on our skins. Our bodies are warm blooded and we have spines.

We can clearly see the evolution of other mammals, but there are some who refuse to see that process as it applies to humans. And it's arrogance that some hold to bolster such stilted thoughts.

Who are you going to believe? Some first century philosopher who also concluded that the world was small and flat and created in a week, or the scientific evidence that clearly refutes that fable?

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

A victory for freedom of thought and individualism in the school, and a stinging defeat for the secular mind police. We enjoy freedom of speech, not freedom from speech you find disagreeable.



'NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A bill that encourages classroom debate over evolution will become law in Tennessee, despite a veto campaign mounted by scientists and civil libertarians who say it will reopen a decades-old controversy over teaching creationism to the state's schoolchildren.'

Tenn. governor allows evolution debate bill to become law

Imagine the lively debate and opening of minds which can now flourish in the previously flat-earther science rooms across Tenn, and hopefully the rest of America!

What's next, astrology and alchemy classes?

I think students should freely be able to debate the merits of astrology and alchemy.

What are you afraid of?

Of course! And if the students demand their class time be spent arguing over whether or not witchcraft is real - the teacher must allow it - or he's violating the 1st amendment free speech rights.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Well there goes any Tennessean ever becoming a scientist ever again. Maybe they can turn the science departments of their universities into more seminaries, lord knows preachers contribute more to society than stupid scientists.

They will probably have trouble getting accepted into out of state colleges.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Well there goes any Tennessean ever becoming a scientist ever again. Maybe they can turn the science departments of their universities into more seminaries, lord knows preachers contribute more to society that stupid scientists.

Seriously. Permitting a mere additional topic in high school debate will change the career path for all potential Tennessean scientists?



Gawd, that is hilarious..

Seriously - science class isn't really that important for sciences. It should be spent debating the hot topics that the legislature wants them to debate - not learning science.

 

[Nosmo King]

Over 90% of the public understand their is validity to a discussion of an Intelligent Design for the universe.

Your 'demand' is an absurd red herring, shared by nobody, which attempts to stifle debate on a topic that potentially rocks your belief system to your core.


Again, why are you so afraid?

Absolutely teach about ID, too. But, in a subject other than science, because ID, by definition, is not a scientific theory.

That is debatable. Would not the force behind an Intelligent Design be perfectly aligned to and instrumental to science?

No. Intelligent Design is not, nor has it ever been considered scientific. It has been refuted beyond debate. Intelligent Design is a cabal created to give those who fail to understand science a shaky platform from which to spout their ignorance of the matter.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

I think students should freely be able to debate the merits of astrology and alchemy.

What are you afraid of?

Wasting time on a phony subject.

That is your opinion. Not shared by the vast, vast majority of Americans.

If the vast majority of Americans thought that feathers fall slower than rocks because they are lighter would we need to teach that, too?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

That is debatable. Would not the force behind an Intelligent Design be perfectly aligned to and instrumental to science?

what force is that?

This is an excellent topic for discussion and debate in our institutions of learning.

Gee....whatta shocker.

Even YOU can't define it!

Yeah.....you're goin'-to-Hell, for sure, now.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

it isn't science and doesn't belong in a science class.

That is your opinion, not shared by all.

Don't be afraid of a little discussion.

Give up.

You're short-timin'.....and, you blew the "force"-test.

Start packin'......

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[Old Rocks]

Damn. This has been a freaking turkey shoot.


LOL

You have that right. Now it is time douse you in the boiling water and pluck you.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Liberals want to teach children that there is no God and cannot be a God. That's what they really want.

It's not a matter of want.

It's more a matter o' evidence.....rather.....

.....lack OF.

(....Despite what those desperate-lobbyists, like SniperFire, are trying to convince themselves.)

 

[buckeye45_73]

Well there goes any Tennessean ever becoming a scientist ever again. Maybe they can turn the science departments of their universities into more seminaries, lord knows preachers contribute more to society that stupid scientists.

Seriously. Permitting a mere additional topic in high school debate will change the career path for all potential Tennessean scientists?



Gawd, that is hilarious..

No, it's sad and not the least bit funny. Only religious fanatics who are outraged that science refuses to validate bronze age campfire stories see this as a victory, it's embarrassing and a step back into ignorance and superstition. Next they will want the flat earth theory discussed on equal terms with Newton's laws of physics.

Well boy wonder lets have a debate on this? So creationsim is a campfire story, but you believe in the Big Bang Theory, dont you? So there is a small particle in space that just all of sudden explodesfor no reason and expands to become the universe. So if the universe is expanding, what is it expanding into? your turn!

 

[Old Rocks]

Such as Irreducible complexity, for example.

It is only supported by the arbitrarily imposed presumption that complexity requires a designer.

Wrong again. There is 'complexity,' and there is IRREDUCIBLE complexity.

Up your game.

LOL. At the very time that Micheal Behe coined this term, most of the examples he gave concerning 'irreducible complexity', such as the flaggelum, had been shown to be reducible.

And, for God's sake, why would you worship a God that had to constantly diddle with his creation to get it right?

 

[Dr.Drock]

It is only supported by the arbitrarily imposed presumption that complexity requires a designer.

Wrong again. There is 'complexity,' and there is IRREDUCIBLE complexity.

Up your game.

LOL. At the very time that Micheal Behe coined this term, most of the examples he gave concerning 'irreducible complexity', such as the flaggelum, had been shown to be reducible.

And, for God's sake, why would you worship a God that had to constantly diddle with his creation to get it right?

He got it right? I'm a pretty optimistic person, but look at all the death and destruction humankind brings. It's easy sitting here in america to say he got it right, but not everywhere.

 

[Old Rocks]

Seriously. Permitting a mere additional topic in high school debate will change the career path for all potential Tennessean scientists?



Gawd, that is hilarious..

No, it's sad and not the least bit funny. Only religious fanatics who are outraged that science refuses to validate bronze age campfire stories see this as a victory, it's embarrassing and a step back into ignorance and superstition. Next they will want the flat earth theory discussed on equal terms with Newton's laws of physics.

Well boy wonder lets have a debate on this? So creationsim is a campfire story, but you believe in the Big Bang Theory, dont you? So there is a small particle in space that just all of sudden explodesfor no reason and expands to become the universe. So if the universe is expanding, what is it expanding into? your turn!

Silly ass. Nobody 'believes' in evolution. They simply accept that the evidence is presently overwhelming that this is the way it happened. Evidence from geology, biology, and genetics.

As for the 'big bang', there is evidence for that, also. But zero evidence for a Diety waving his hand ( tenticle?, appendage of some sort? ) and poofing the universe into existance as it is.

 

[Vidi]

Seriously. Permitting a mere additional topic in high school debate will change the career path for all potential Tennessean scientists?



Gawd, that is hilarious..

No, it's sad and not the least bit funny. Only religious fanatics who are outraged that science refuses to validate bronze age campfire stories see this as a victory, it's embarrassing and a step back into ignorance and superstition. Next they will want the flat earth theory discussed on equal terms with Newton's laws of physics.

Well boy wonder lets have a debate on this? So creationsim is a campfire story, but you believe in the Big Bang Theory, dont you? So there is a small particle in space that just all of sudden explodesfor no reason and expands to become the universe. So if the universe is expanding, what is it expanding into? your turn!

God said let there be light and BOOM there was light. And it expanded and it expanded into all of Creation setting into motion the processes by which God created life.

Science does NOT disprove God. It shows us how He did it.

 

[Old Rocks]

Wrong again. There is 'complexity,' and there is IRREDUCIBLE complexity.

Up your game.

LOL. At the very time that Micheal Behe coined this term, most of the examples he gave concerning 'irreducible complexity', such as the flaggelum, had been shown to be reducible.

And, for God's sake, why would you worship a God that had to constantly diddle with his creation to get it right?

He got it right? I'm a pretty optimistic person, but look at all the death and destruction humankind brings. It's easy sitting here in america to say he got it right, but not everywhere.

Well, one can accept pre-destination, or free will. That is why most of the founders of this nation were Diests, not Christians. They believed that a Diety created the universe, and what we make of it for ourselves is up to us.

 

[Old Rocks]

No, it's sad and not the least bit funny. Only religious fanatics who are outraged that science refuses to validate bronze age campfire stories see this as a victory, it's embarrassing and a step back into ignorance and superstition. Next they will want the flat earth theory discussed on equal terms with Newton's laws of physics.

Well boy wonder lets have a debate on this? So creationsim is a campfire story, but you believe in the Big Bang Theory, dont you? So there is a small particle in space that just all of sudden explodesfor no reason and expands to become the universe. So if the universe is expanding, what is it expanding into? your turn!

God said let there be light and BOOM there was light. And it expanded and it expanded into all of Creation setting into motion the processes by which God created life.

Science does NOT disprove God. It shows us how He did it.

No arguement with that.