Defining "Liberalism"

[PoliticalChic]

Insight is not your strong suit, Billy....

The Liberal establishment, the elites, endorse every one of the aims and designs of the Communist Party.
And, by giving them your vote......

....so do you.

Links please to ANY part of the Democratic Platform which endorses communal ownership of property, or government control of business or industry, or any major goal of communism?

And just as an additional comment, why do you feel it necessary to insult anyone who disagrees with your ideas. Are so lacking in self esteem that you must try to tear people down in order to feel good about yourself? Perhaps it's to cover the lack of real substance in your ideas. In either case, it cements the notion that you're immature and incapable of adult discussion.

PC = Petulant Child

First.....I always insult those deserving of same.



Second....

"Links please to ANY part of the Democratic Platform which endorses ....any major goal of communism?


Here ya' go-


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV9rzOO6GWE]Democratic Platform removes the mention God from the platform then tries to recant after backlash. - YouTube[/ame]



BTW.....

....If you were twice as smart, you'd still be stupid.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PC stole some more "original thoughts" from someone?

So....you believe that 'thoughts' can be stolen?


That must be why you lack any.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Whittaker Chambers wrote in his book WITNESS that liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs. In short, Liberals are Communists and Communists are Liberals.

Lie much? Well if it fits your political agenda, the super logic college dweeb is proving once again that she is a victim of ad hominem.

1. I never lie.

2. I proved that "liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs."

Check out post #9.

3. Chambers knew whereof he spoke.

 

[Edgetho]

Whittaker Chambers wrote in his book WITNESS that liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs. In short, Liberals are Communists and Communists are Liberals.

Lie much? Well if it fits your political agenda, the super logic college dweeb is proving once again that she is a victim of ad hominem.

1. I never lie.

2. I proved that "liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs."

Check out post #9.

3. Chambers knew whereof he spoke.

the dimocrap party and communism go way back.

An example that leaps out is Alger Hiss in the FDR Administration.

And FDR knew what was going on. He was no dummy.

When Truman told Stalin about the Atomic Bomb before it was completed, Stalin said, "I already know."

communist spies and communists have long been part of the dimocrap party.

When the KGB and Stasi opened their files after the end of the Cold War, American Officials were shocked at the number of commie spies in the dimocrap party and the part they played in it

An ACCEPTED part

 

[TemplarKormac]

Insight is not your strong suit, Billy....

The Liberal establishment, the elites, endorse every one of the aims and designs of the Communist Party.
And, by giving them your vote......

....so do you.

Links please to ANY part of the Democratic Platform which endorses communal ownership of property, or government control of business or industry, or any major goal of communism?

And just as an additional comment, why do you feel it necessary to insult anyone who disagrees with your ideas. Are so lacking in self esteem that you must try to tear people down in order to feel good about yourself? Perhaps it's to cover the lack of real substance in your ideas. In either case, it cements the notion that you're immature and incapable of adult discussion.

PC = Petulant Child

Alright, you think this is some freaking game don't you?

The goals as they were for the American Communist Party in 1963:

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

Which is awfully similar to Obama's willingness to turn us into a country similar to Europe, and supposed willingness to destroy segments of our nuclear arsenal.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

See No. 1

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

See liberal gun control agenda, signage of the UN Small Arms Treaty.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

See Obama's funding of the Muslim Brotherhood, donations of tanks and warplanes to Egypt and donations of US arms to Syrian Rebels linked to Al-Qaeda.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

See China's membership in the UN which included full veto power.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

From 1961 to 1989 that was the case, but Ronald Reagan helped facilitate the reconstitution of Germany, which occurred in September 1990.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

See UN Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty of 1968, the US was a signatory under Lyndon Johnson.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Ukraine, Belarus, and Lithuania once all former Soviet satellite nations are currently members of the UN.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

See Communist Control Act of 1954, signed into law by President Dwight Eisenhower.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

See President Obama's continued breaches of his oath of office.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

See the Democratic Party.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

See Supreme Court ruling on Obamacare.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

See current failure of the American educational system through continued government funding and dictation.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

See the Occupy Wall Street movement of 2011.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

See the American Main Stream Media.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

See No. 20

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

See FCC v. Fox Television Stations (2012)

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

See Supreme Court ruling on the Defense of Marriage Act, California's Proposition 8.

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

See the Democratic Nation Convention in 2012, where the audience booed a decision to add God, Jerusalem back into the platform. See efforts by Democrats to remove religious displays from public view.

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

See the elimination of prayer in schools, efforts to have "under God" stricken from the Pledge of Allegiance, Liberal marginalization of the Christian faith.

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

See Obama's continuous breaches of multiple parts of the Constitution here.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

See Liberal attempts to label the Founding Fathers as extremists.

Defense Department guide calls Founding Fathers 'extremist' | The Daily Caller

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

See centralized governmental institutions such as the Department of Education, Commerce, Defense, Health, Revenue, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

See Liberal selective application of the United States Constitution.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

This committee was abolished in 1975 under the Carter Administration.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

See Liberal acceptance of male-male and female-female family units. Infatuation with premarital sexual activity.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use "united force" to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

See Iraq, Afghanistan.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

See The Torrijos–Carter Treaties.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

See the United Nations.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Okay, how about this Chic.

Hi, my name is Billy. I identity as a liberal. I do not believe communism or socialism to be effective economic systems. I believe capitalism to be the most successful system (despite it still being problematic in key ways).

There. Do you feel like your brain is going to explode? I'm sure you must feel very confused right now. Do yourself a favor and read a book on what exactly contemporary liberalism in America is. It will do wonders for the massive migraine this post has probably caused you.

Insight is not your strong suit, Billy....

The Liberal establishment, the elites, endorse every one of the aims and designs of the Communist Party.
And, by giving them your vote......

....so do you.

The problem with modern day American liberalism is that those who so identify themselves as that - or those who betray themselves as that by consistently voting for liberals - don't CARE what policies, beliefs, or practices they are voting for.

They are voting with some kind of notion that liberals are just nicer and better people, and therefore they will govern better.

We see this in thread after thread after thread. The liberals absolutely will not read, will not discuss, will not even consider any critical analysis of a liberal person or liberal policies. They are totally blind to all flaws and can only see that the intention is to be nicer and better, and therefore it is good.

When the "reason" you come up with is no reason you're not reasoning well.

Liberals vote the way they do for the same reason you vote the way you do.


Stop being stupid

 

[regent]

Whittaker Chambers wrote in his book WITNESS that liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs. In short, Liberals are Communists and Communists are Liberals.

Lie much? Well if it fits your political agenda, the super logic college dweeb is proving once again that she is a victim of ad hominem.

1. I never lie.

2. I proved that "liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs."

Check out post #9.

3. Chambers knew whereof he spoke.

So can you name any of the nations that practiced Marxian communism or practice it today?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Insight is not your strong suit, Billy....

The Liberal establishment, the elites, endorse every one of the aims and designs of the Communist Party.
And, by giving them your vote......

....so do you.

The problem with modern day American liberalism is that those who so identify themselves as that - or those who betray themselves as that by consistently voting for liberals - don't CARE what policies, beliefs, or practices they are voting for.

They are voting with some kind of notion that liberals are just nicer and better people, and therefore they will govern better.

We see this in thread after thread after thread. The liberals absolutely will not read, will not discuss, will not even consider any critical analysis of a liberal person or liberal policies. They are totally blind to all flaws and can only see that the intention is to be nicer and better, and therefore it is good.

Stop being stupid

You first.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Lie much? Well if it fits your political agenda, the super logic college dweeb is proving once again that she is a victim of ad hominem.

1. I never lie.

2. I proved that "liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs."

Check out post #9.

3. Chambers knew whereof he spoke.

So can you name any of the nations that practiced Marxian communism or practice it today?

1. ObamaCare fits the description.


2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).


b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252

 

[regent]

1. I never lie.

2. I proved that "liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs."

Check out post #9.

3. Chambers knew whereof he spoke.

So can you name any of the nations that practiced Marxian communism or practice it today?

1. ObamaCare fits the description.


2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).


b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252

No, the question was can you name any nation that has practiced or practices Marxian communism today? It did not ask for apologists for Stalin or other answers that you gave. Can you name any nation that has, or today, practices Marxian communism?

 

[PoliticalChic]

So can you name any of the nations that practiced Marxian communism or practice it today?

1. ObamaCare fits the description.


2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).


b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252

No, the question was can you name any nation that has practiced or practices Marxian communism today? It did not ask for apologists for Stalin or other answers that you gave. Can you name any nation that has, or today, practices Marxian communism?

Poor baby.


You didn't like the deft way I used your attempt to dissemble, and nailed you with a prime example of communism in our very midst?

Tsk tsk.....


Perhaps you should return to your feeble attempts at humorous posts.

Then again......

 

[ClosedCaption]

PC stole some more "original thoughts" from someone?

So....you believe that 'thoughts' can be stolen?


That must be why you lack any.

They cant, now do you get it?

 

[Edgetho]

So can you name any of the nations that practiced Marxian communism or practice it today?

1. ObamaCare fits the description.


2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).


b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252

No, the question was can you name any nation that has practiced or practices Marxian communism today? It did not ask for apologists for Stalin or other answers that you gave. Can you name any nation that has, or today, practices Marxian communism?

communism is what remains after government "withers away".

There has never been a 'communist' government except in the feeble mind of the most over-rated faux-intellectual in the history of Man -- Karl Marx

Who was a lawyer, not an economist or a philosopher....

A fucking lawyer

 

[Pheonixops]

Typical simple minded, black and white thinking from the right wing. "We are good. They are bad. There is no inbetween."

I'll be honest, it astounds me how devoid so many conservatives are of critical thinking skills.

Seriously, do you all think that us liberals get together and have a fucking monthly meeting to decide what we all believe and agree on? Every liberal in America? You must because that is the only way this childish logic would make any fucking sense.

Liberals are individuals like anyone else. We all have different opinions and levels of intellectual reasoning. WE DON'T ALL THINK THE SAME WAY. We aren't robots for Christs sakes. Why this simple logic escapes you just blows my mind. I guess its just easier to demonize anyone who disagrees with you, huh?

Do yourself a favor and think critically for once about political issues. Otherwise you will always lack a basic understanding of them.

Oh....poor, poor Billy Zero-IQ....

Seems I really hit a nerve.

Your whining 'am not, am not' is hardly a defense of Liberals who despise the America that I love, in the face of their obvious embrace of the "America-evil" theme.


But I can help you....not the psychological support you need.....but here is the political way out you seek:

Simply show that the goals that the communist party supports, Liberals oppose.



You can begin with these......


1. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If the U.N. charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces.

2. Capture one or both political parties in the United States. (In David Horowitz's book The Shadow Party, he shows how the Democratic Party is now under the control of what he calls the Shadow Party of Socialist-Communist influences.)

3. Get Control of the Schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the Party line in textbooks.

4. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

5. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.


6. Break down culture standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

7. Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

8. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

9. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." (A.C.L.U. lawyers accomplished this goal in a very short 4 years from publication of the book The Naked Communist.)

10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a world-wide basis. (In 2012, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Ginsberg and A.C.L.U. member said exactly this while visiting Cairo, Egypt.)


11. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture, education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

12. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

13. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influences of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of the parents.
Communist Goals to Take America



Start whenever you're ready....

1) I certainly don't think that the UN is the only hope for mankind. I am not in favor of a one world government, I think that all countries should be sovereign. I think that the concept of the UN, when used intelligently , can make our wold safer when countries of goodwill come together to discuss or debate issues and situations in the world that can be addressed through peaceful, civilized means. I have heard conservatives such as Hannity and Co. use the UN resolutions as justification to invade and occupy Iraq.

2) Sounds like some silly conspiratorial crap.

3) The same as two; do you think that some conservatives and religious fundamentalists aren't trying to get God back into Our schools. Think "school prayer"...........

4) See Foxnews, CNS, and World Net Daily, as the conservative counterparts to what you are describing. Do you have a problem with them doing what you described?

5) Same as above.

6) LOL, as long as it's legal, do you have a problem with people expressing their First Amendment rights? Do you think that they should be censured and outlawed by the Limited Government and the get Government out of the way, that many conservatives claim that they want?"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."

7) See above!

8) What happened to the freedom of religion that many conservatives profess to believe in? do you think that the Government should approve of what religion is valid?

9) Are you in support of schools having Muslim prayers every morning before school starts? "The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries."
James Madison
Read more at James Madison Quotes - BrainyQuote

10) The Founding Fathers knew that at some time the Constitution may need to be changed to reflect the times, that's why they made provisions to Amend and out of date Constitution.

11) LOL, I think that you are over generalizing here.

12) Same as above.

13) Same as #11.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Oh....poor, poor Billy Zero-IQ....

Seems I really hit a nerve.

Your whining 'am not, am not' is hardly a defense of Liberals who despise the America that I love, in the face of their obvious embrace of the "America-evil" theme.


But I can help you....not the psychological support you need.....but here is the political way out you seek:

Simply show that the goals that the communist party supports, Liberals oppose.



You can begin with these......


1. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If the U.N. charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces.

2. Capture one or both political parties in the United States. (In David Horowitz's book The Shadow Party, he shows how the Democratic Party is now under the control of what he calls the Shadow Party of Socialist-Communist influences.)

3. Get Control of the Schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the Party line in textbooks.

4. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

5. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.


6. Break down culture standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

7. Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

8. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

9. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." (A.C.L.U. lawyers accomplished this goal in a very short 4 years from publication of the book The Naked Communist.)

10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a world-wide basis. (In 2012, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Ginsberg and A.C.L.U. member said exactly this while visiting Cairo, Egypt.)


11. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture, education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

12. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

13. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influences of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of the parents.
Communist Goals to Take America



Start whenever you're ready....

1) I certainly don't think that the UN is the only hope for mankind. I am not in favor of a one world government, I think that all countries should be sovereign. I think that the concept of the UN, when used intelligently , can make our wold safer when countries of goodwill come together to discuss or debate issues and situations in the world that can be addressed through peaceful, civilized means. I have heard conservatives such as Hannity and Co. use the UN resolutions as justification to invade and occupy Iraq.

2) Sounds like some silly conspiratorial crap.

3) The same as two; do you think that some conservatives and religious fundamentalists aren't trying to get God back into Our schools. Think "school prayer"...........

4) See Foxnews, CNS, and World Net Daily, as the conservative counterparts to what you are describing. Do you have a problem with them doing what you described?

5) Same as above.

6) LOL, as long as it's legal, do you have a problem with people expressing their First Amendment rights? Do you think that they should be censured and outlawed by the Limited Government and the get Government out of the way, that many conservatives claim that they want?"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."

7) See above!

8) What happened to the freedom of religion that many conservatives profess to believe in? do you think that the Government should approve of what religion is valid?

9) Are you in support of schools having Muslim prayers every morning before school starts? "The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries."
James Madison
Read more at James Madison Quotes - BrainyQuote

10) The Founding Fathers knew that at some time the Constitution may need to be changed to reflect the times, that's why they made provisions to Amend and out of date Constitution.

11) LOL, I think that you are over generalizing here.

12) Same as above.

13) Same as #11.

As a sample, item #1....

1. The religion of Leftism has its search for Utopia…albeit of this sphere…and two famous statements encapsulate the search:

a. There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not ?Attributed to Robert Kennedy.

b. The other is from the words of John Lennon’s song, “Imagine.” One is asked to imagine that there is no heaven or hell, that everyone lives for today; that there are no countries, nothing to kill for, and no religion; there are no possessions- therefore no greed nor hunger.


2. Conservatives don’t dream of things that never were nearly so much as Liberals do. We usually dream the same dream that our forefathers did: an America that is identified by the “American Trinity” of “Liberty,” “In God We Trust,” and “E Pluribus Unum.” And, judging by history, we have seen that ‘utopian dreams’ are more likely to end up as nightmares. Prager, “Still The Best Hope,” chapter two.

3. There is one-worldism, the UN, and there is the opposite: national sovereignty.
The Left works daily in favor of the former.
“ In Grutter, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (joined by Justice Stephen Breyer) cited both the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (which the United States has ratified) and the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (which it has not) as evidence of an “international understanding of the office of affirmative action.” In Justice Ginsburg’s view, these international conventions provide the grounds for “temporary special measures aimed at accelerating de facto equality.”
Multilateralism comes to the courts > Public Interest > National Affairs

4. So…we see the Liberal regularly attempting to marginalize American law and American history.
Need more proof? See Breyer’s dissent in Prinz v United States, touting European concepts over American. And in Knight v.Florida, he quotes India and even Zimbabwe.



Every one of the items demanded by the Communist Party is endorsed by the leading Liberals.
Whether you agree 100% with any one of the designs, or with any percent of them, it doesn't matter once you vote Liberal, or Democrat.

Unfortunately, the same result often occurs when one votes Republican.

"The common wisdom holds that 'both parties' have to appeal to the extremes during the primary and then move to the center for the general election. To the contrary, both parties run for office as conservatives. Once they have fooled the voters and are safely in office, Republicans sometimes double-cross the voters. Democrats always do."
Coulter, 11-27-03

 

[deltex1]

Liberalism: a long brown thing that smells like shit.

 

[Billy000]

Communism-lite.

Okay, how about this Chic.

Hi, my name is Billy. I identity as a liberal. I do not believe communism or socialism to be effective economic systems. I believe capitalism to be the most successful system (despite it still being problematic in key ways).

There. Do you feel like your brain is going to explode? I'm sure you must feel very confused right now. Do yourself a favor and read a book on what exactly contemporary liberalism in America is. It will do wonders for the massive migraine this post has probably caused you.

Insight is not your strong suit, Billy....

The Liberal establishment, the elites, endorse every one of the aims and designs of the Communist Party.
And, by giving them your vote......

....so do you.

God you are so dense.

 

[Billy000]

Okay, how about this Chic.

Hi, my name is Billy. I identity as a liberal. I do not believe communism or socialism to be effective economic systems. I believe capitalism to be the most successful system (despite it still being problematic in key ways).

There. Do you feel like your brain is going to explode? I'm sure you must feel very confused right now. Do yourself a favor and read a book on what exactly contemporary liberalism in America is. It will do wonders for the massive migraine this post has probably caused you.

Insight is not your strong suit, Billy....

The Liberal establishment, the elites, endorse every one of the aims and designs of the Communist Party.
And, by giving them your vote......

....so do you.

The problem with modern day American liberalism is that those who so identify themselves as that - or those who betray themselves as that by consistently voting for liberals - don't CARE what policies, beliefs, or practices they are voting for.

They are voting with some kind of notion that liberals are just nicer and better people, and therefore they will govern better.

We see this in thread after thread after thread. The liberals absolutely will not read, will not discuss, will not even consider any critical analysis of a liberal person or liberal policies. They are totally blind to all flaws and can only see that the intention is to be nicer and better, and therefore it is good.

Are you kidding me? Are you suggesting liberals have not been participating in this thread? You are dreadfully, willfully ignorant.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Okay, how about this Chic.

Hi, my name is Billy. I identity as a liberal. I do not believe communism or socialism to be effective economic systems. I believe capitalism to be the most successful system (despite it still being problematic in key ways).

There. Do you feel like your brain is going to explode? I'm sure you must feel very confused right now. Do yourself a favor and read a book on what exactly contemporary liberalism in America is. It will do wonders for the massive migraine this post has probably caused you.

Insight is not your strong suit, Billy....

The Liberal establishment, the elites, endorse every one of the aims and designs of the Communist Party.
And, by giving them your vote......

....so do you.

God you are so dense.

Good to see you praying, Billy-ZeroIQ....

,,,,shows there is hope for you.


Now, style point:
Your attempt at an insult....jejune and vapid though it is....is like
the fabled Eunuch in the Harem-

He wants to....he just can't.
(Have someone explain that to you.)


In order to get a good zinger in, first, it should be clever, and, second,
it should be in a post where you've made a good point.


Alas, you never make a good point....so, I guess I wasted this advice.

Carry on.

 

[Billy000]

Insight is not your strong suit, Billy....

The Liberal establishment, the elites, endorse every one of the aims and designs of the Communist Party.
And, by giving them your vote......

....so do you.

God you are so dense.

Good to see you praying, Billy-ZeroIQ....

,,,,shows there is hope for you.


Now, style point:
Your attempt at an insult....jejune and vapid though it is....is like
the fabled Eunuch in the Harem-

He wants to....he just can't.
(Have someone explain that to you.)


In order to get a good zinger in, first, it should be clever, and, second,
it should be in a post where you've made a good point.


Alas, you never make a good point....so, I guess I wasted this advice.

Carry on.

See you're missing the point. I am not thowing a zinger at you or trying to be clever. I am not trying to one up you. I am just describing you accurately.