Dem 2020 Presidential platform: Ban 'assault weapons'!!!!'

It's a simple fact that those advanced countries which have stricter gun laws than us have much, much, much lower homicide rates. This is a fact which is willfully ignored and denied by the likes of you.
Assume that gun laws actually have an effect on homicide rates (and not some other factor). You would be advocating the sacrifice of liberty for security, right?

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I would be advocating protecting our rights by ensuring guns are only in the hands of law-abiding citizens.

If we keep doing things your way, it is just a matter of time before the death toll rises so high that America will repeal the second amendment..
Lol
You do realize more people are killed by people using knives, hammers, bathtubs, lawnmowers, swimming pools than firearms?

Political correctness makes people fucking retarded

See? I said that all you can do in the face of the facts is whine, cuss and lie.

You just lied.

There were 17,284 murders in 2017. 14,542 of those homicides were by guns.

I'm done wasting my time with you. Being a gun lobby parroting rube makes people fucking retarded.


Wrong.....there were

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

Gun murder....10,982.....gun suicide...23,854

Being an anti-gun asshat means that facts, reality, and truth have no place in your arguments.......emotions gushing from every orifice is what you use to make your points...
 
This brainless chant of "outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns" is just so much bullshit.

What the gun makers don't want is for demand for guns to drop and impact their bottom line. That's what this is really about.

If we tightened up our controls, and ensured only law abiding citizens had access to guns, then demand for guns would drop precipitously.

Just like if we get opioids under control, then the pharma companies would be making a lot less pills.

And our death rate would plunge.


That makes no sense at all you moron....... if law abiding people don't want a gun, they won't buy a gun....criminals will always need guns to defend their turf......
If law abiding people don't want a gun, the gun makers will still flood our country with guns!

That's what is going on with guns and opioids. It's absolutely amazing you dolts have not figured that out.


Moron....if law abiding people aren't buying guns, then criminals will be the only ones buying them, and demand will drop......criminals are not 320 million people.
 
No surprise, right?
Every Dem who spoke on guns in the 2 nights of debate declared the need to ban 'assault weapon' - to save our schools, to save our kids, shopping malls, movie theaters, gay bars, etc. It's almost as if this little bit of leftist dogma is chiseled into their souls.

A question for those who agree with the candidates:
If there is, as they claim, a NEED to ban these guns, if banning these guns is, as they say, NECESSARY for the safety of whomever - what does a ban on the manufacturer and sale of new 'assault weapons' accomplish?
An assault weapon ban by itself would accomplish little. The 12,000+ gun homicides each year are mostly murder by handgun.

It's a simple fact that those advanced countries which have stricter gun laws than us have much, much, much lower homicide rates. This is a fact which is willfully ignored and denied by the likes of you.


Just like the opioid manufacturers, the gun makers of America have flooded the market with more guns than are wanted or needed by legitimate gun owners. They both know they are responsible for the mass deaths which have been happening for far too long.

"I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." - Donald Trump, The America We Deserve

MAGA!




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It's a simple fact that those advanced countries which have stricter gun laws than us have much, much, much lower homicide rates.

You are a simpleton, and that is not a simple fact. Those countries had lower gun murder rates before they banned guns......something your theory can't explain.

As more Americans not only own guns, but carry them for self defense, our gun murder rate went down, 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, our violent crime rate went down 72%......your theory can't explain that....

In the Scientific Method, if the facts do not support your theory, your theory is crap....

Your theory is crap.
 
This brainless chant of "outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns" is just so much bullshit.

What the gun makers don't want is for demand for guns to drop and impact their bottom line. That's what this is really about.

If we tightened up our controls, and ensured only law abiding citizens had access to guns, then demand for guns would drop precipitously.

Just like if we get opioids under control, then the pharma companies would be making a lot less pills.

And our death rate would plunge.


That makes no sense at all you moron....... if law abiding people don't want a gun, they won't buy a gun....criminals will always need guns to defend their turf......
If law abiding people don't want a gun, the gun makers will still flood our country with guns!

That's what is going on with guns and opioids. It's absolutely amazing you dolts have not figured that out.


Moron....if law abiding people aren't buying guns, then criminals will be the only ones buying them, and demand will drop......criminals are not 320 million people.
The number of law abiding citizens buying guns is not 320 million. In fact, a much, much smaller percentage of Americans own guns than before. Less law abiding citizens are demanding guns.

And yet the market is being flooded.

Like I said, it is absolutely stunning you dolts haven't figured out that if law-abiding demand drops, and the market is still flooded, then a LOT of that tsunami of death is going to end up washing into the hands of the wrong people.

And that is why our homicide rate is far, far, far higher than the UK and Canada and other OECD countries.
 
No surprise, right?
Every Dem who spoke on guns in the 2 nights of debate declared the need to ban 'assault weapon' - to save our schools, to save our kids, shopping malls, movie theaters, gay bars, etc. It's almost as if this little bit of leftist dogma is chiseled into their souls.

A question for those who agree with the candidates:
If there is, as they claim, a NEED to ban these guns, if banning these guns is, as they say, NECESSARY for the safety of whomever - what does a ban on the manufacturer and sale of new 'assault weapons' accomplish?
An assault weapon ban by itself would accomplish little. The 12,000+ gun homicides each year are mostly murder by handgun.

It's a simple fact that those advanced countries which have stricter gun laws than us have much, much, much lower homicide rates. This is a fact which is willfully ignored and denied by the likes of you.


Just like the opioid manufacturers, the gun makers of America have flooded the market with more guns than are wanted or needed by legitimate gun owners. They both know they are responsible for the mass deaths which have been happening for far too long.

"I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." - Donald Trump, The America We Deserve

MAGA!




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Moron....guns are not addictive drugs.......if Americans have enough guns, they won't buy more...they are not physically compelled to get more because their body is going into withdrawal....you f*****g doofus. They can flood the country with guns, and then they lose crap loads of money when Americans don't buy them.....you moron......nothing compels people to buy them, you moron.
 
This brainless chant of "outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns" is just so much bullshit.

What the gun makers don't want is for demand for guns to drop and impact their bottom line. That's what this is really about.

If we tightened up our controls, and ensured only law abiding citizens had access to guns, then demand for guns would drop precipitously.

Just like if we get opioids under control, then the pharma companies would be making a lot less pills.

And our death rate would plunge.


That makes no sense at all you moron....... if law abiding people don't want a gun, they won't buy a gun....criminals will always need guns to defend their turf......
If law abiding people don't want a gun, the gun makers will still flood our country with guns!

That's what is going on with guns and opioids. It's absolutely amazing you dolts have not figured that out.


Moron....if law abiding people aren't buying guns, then criminals will be the only ones buying them, and demand will drop......criminals are not 320 million people.
The number of law abiding citizens buying guns is not 320 million. In fact, a much, much smaller percentage of Americans own guns than before. Less law abiding citizens are demanding guns.

And yet the market is being flooded.

Like I said, it is absolutely stunning you dolts haven't figured out that if law-abiding demand drops, and the market is still flooded, then a LOT of that tsunami of death is going to end up washing into the hands of the wrong people.

And that is why our homicide rate is far, far, far higher than the UK and Canada and other OECD countries.

In fact, a much, much smaller percentage of Americans own guns than before.

WRong.....in fact, the growth areas of gun ownership in this country are among Minorities and Women, two segments of the population that were not represented before in great numbers...that is changing...

What also changed is the willingness of law abiding gun owners to admit to asshats like you that they own guns...especially after asshat gun grabbers in the press started publishing the names of gun owners in the news.....
 
This brainless chant of "outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns" is just so much bullshit.

What the gun makers don't want is for demand for guns to drop and impact their bottom line. That's what this is really about.

If we tightened up our controls, and ensured only law abiding citizens had access to guns, then demand for guns would drop precipitously.

Just like if we get opioids under control, then the pharma companies would be making a lot less pills.

And our death rate would plunge.


That makes no sense at all you moron....... if law abiding people don't want a gun, they won't buy a gun....criminals will always need guns to defend their turf......
If law abiding people don't want a gun, the gun makers will still flood our country with guns!

That's what is going on with guns and opioids. It's absolutely amazing you dolts have not figured that out.


Moron....if law abiding people aren't buying guns, then criminals will be the only ones buying them, and demand will drop......criminals are not 320 million people.
The number of law abiding citizens buying guns is not 320 million. In fact, a much, much smaller percentage of Americans own guns than before. Less law abiding citizens are demanding guns.

And yet the market is being flooded.

Like I said, it is absolutely stunning you dolts haven't figured out that if law-abiding demand drops, and the market is still flooded, then a LOT of that tsunami of death is going to end up washing into the hands of the wrong people.

And that is why our homicide rate is far, far, far higher than the UK and Canada and other OECD countries.
Yes, firearm ownership has went way down in urban America… It’s way up in rural America.
Like I said, firearms out number of people many, many times over in rural America.

The vast majority of violence in this country is in progressive controlled urban America with extremely strict gun control laws… I will ask you again why is that? Dolt
 
This brainless chant of "outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns" is just so much bullshit.

What the gun makers don't want is for demand for guns to drop and impact their bottom line. That's what this is really about.

If we tightened up our controls, and ensured only law abiding citizens had access to guns, then demand for guns would drop precipitously.

Just like if we get opioids under control, then the pharma companies would be making a lot less pills.

And our death rate would plunge.


That makes no sense at all you moron....... if law abiding people don't want a gun, they won't buy a gun....criminals will always need guns to defend their turf......
If law abiding people don't want a gun, the gun makers will still flood our country with guns!

That's what is going on with guns and opioids. It's absolutely amazing you dolts have not figured that out.


Moron....if law abiding people aren't buying guns, then criminals will be the only ones buying them, and demand will drop......criminals are not 320 million people.
The number of law abiding citizens buying guns is not 320 million. In fact, a much, much smaller percentage of Americans own guns than before. Less law abiding citizens are demanding guns.

And yet the market is being flooded.

Like I said, it is absolutely stunning you dolts haven't figured out that if law-abiding demand drops, and the market is still flooded, then a LOT of that tsunami of death is going to end up washing into the hands of the wrong people.

And that is why our homicide rate is far, far, far higher than the UK and Canada and other OECD countries.


And that is why our homicide rate is far, far, far higher than the UK and Canada

No....our homicide rate is higher because our "Great Society" welfare programs destroyed our black families in democrat controlled voting districts, creating fatherless homes, and young males who turn to violence and crime as a result. Also, those same democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors keep letting violent, repeat gun offenders out of jail, over and over again...

But don't worry.......the U.K. has destroyed their families now, as has Canada....and their murder rates by gun and other means are going up.....you asshat.
 
“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.


Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'




I remember the complete mental shit fits the gun nuts had when they were told the Obama Administration was taking guns from crazy people without due process first. :lol:


 
It's a simple fact that those advanced countries which have stricter gun laws than us have much, much, much lower homicide rates. This is a fact which is willfully ignored and denied by the likes of you.
Assume that gun laws actually have an effect on homicide rates (and not some other factor). You would be advocating the sacrifice of liberty for security, right?

.
I would be advocating protecting our rights by ensuring guns are only in the hands of law-abiding citizens.

If we keep doing things your way, it is just a matter of time before the death toll rises so high that America will repeal the second amendment..


How about 26 years of increasing gun ownership.....and carrying guns in public......? And what was the result over the last 26 years as more Americans own and carry guns?

Our gun murder rate went down 49%....explain that you twit.

Our gun crime rate went down 75%.....explain that you twit.

Our violent crime rate went down 72%...explain that you twit.

The facts, the truth and the reality show you don't know what you are talking about, your theory can't explain the decrease in gun crime, so your theory is crap.
 
Just to be clear, unlike Donald Trump I do not support an AWB.
 
“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.


Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'




I remember the complete mental shit fits the gun nuts had when they were told the Obama Administration was taking guns from crazy people without due process first. :lol:



Well....shithead.......explain why it was the ACLU leading that cause...and 23 other mental health groups...

Gun Control Laws Should Be Fair

But gun control laws, like any law, should be fair, effective and not based on prejudice or stereotype. This rule met none of those criteria.

In this era of “alternative facts,” we must urge politicians to create laws based on reliable evidence and solid data.

The thousands of Americans whose disability benefits are managed by someone else range from young people with depression and financial inexperience to older adults with Down syndrome needing help with a limited budget. But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular.

To the contrary, studies show that people with mental disabilities are less likely to commit firearm crimes than to be the victimsof violence by others.

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The ACLU and 23 national disability groups did not oppose this rule because we want more guns in our community.

This is about more than guns. Adding more innocent Americans to the National Instant Criminal Background database because of a mental disability is a disturbing trend — one that could be applied to voting, parenting or other rights dearer than gun ownership. We opposed it because it would do little to stem gun violence but do much to harm our civil rights.
 
“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.


Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'




I remember the complete mental shit fits the gun nuts had when they were told the Obama Administration was taking guns from crazy people without due process first. :lol:



Your Trump Derangement Syndrome is showing....
 
It's a simple fact that those advanced countries which have stricter gun laws than us have much, much, much lower homicide rates. This is a fact which is willfully ignored and denied by the likes of you.
Assume that gun laws actually have an effect on homicide rates (and not some other factor). You would be advocating the sacrifice of liberty for security, right?

.
I would be advocating protecting our rights by ensuring guns are only in the hands of law-abiding citizens.

If we keep doing things your way, it is just a matter of time before the death toll rises so high that America will repeal the second amendment..


How about 26 years of increasing gun ownership....
Nope. A smaller percentage of Americans own guns than 26 years ago.


Here's how it works:

Ten people own one gun each for a total of 10 guns.

Several years later, 2 people own 10 guns each for a total of 20 guns.

That's what is going on.

The percentage of Americans who own guns is much lower than just a few decades ago.
 
This brainless chant of "outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns" is just so much bullshit.

What the gun makers don't want is for demand for guns to drop and impact their bottom line. That's what this is really about.

If we tightened up our controls, and ensured only law abiding citizens had access to guns, then demand for guns would drop precipitously.

Just like if we get opioids under control, then the pharma companies would be making a lot less pills.

And our death rate would plunge.


That makes no sense at all you moron....... if law abiding people don't want a gun, they won't buy a gun....criminals will always need guns to defend their turf......
If law abiding people don't want a gun, the gun makers will still flood our country with guns!

That's what is going on with guns and opioids. It's absolutely amazing you dolts have not figured that out.


Moron....if law abiding people aren't buying guns, then criminals will be the only ones buying them, and demand will drop......criminals are not 320 million people.
The number of law abiding citizens buying guns is not 320 million. In fact, a much, much smaller percentage of Americans own guns than before. Less law abiding citizens are demanding guns.

And yet the market is being flooded.

Like I said, it is absolutely stunning you dolts haven't figured out that if law-abiding demand drops, and the market is still flooded, then a LOT of that tsunami of death is going to end up washing into the hands of the wrong people.

And that is why our homicide rate is far, far, far higher than the UK and Canada and other OECD countries.
How much actual demand is out there and what facts do you have supporting that claim?

If demand is down, sales would reflect it.

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“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.


Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'




I remember the complete mental shit fits the gun nuts had when they were told the Obama Administration was taking guns from crazy people without due process first. :lol:



Your Trump Derangement Syndrome is showing....
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Quoting Trump's own words is cheating! :lol:

Priceless.
 
It's a simple fact that those advanced countries which have stricter gun laws than us have much, much, much lower homicide rates. This is a fact which is willfully ignored and denied by the likes of you.
Assume that gun laws actually have an effect on homicide rates (and not some other factor). You would be advocating the sacrifice of liberty for security, right?

.
I would be advocating protecting our rights by ensuring guns are only in the hands of law-abiding citizens.

If we keep doing things your way, it is just a matter of time before the death toll rises so high that America will repeal the second amendment..


How about 26 years of increasing gun ownership....
Nope. A smaller percentage of Americans own guns than 26 years ago.


Here's how it works:

Ten people own one gun each for a total of 10 guns.

Several years later, 2 people own 10 guns each for a total of 20 guns.

That's what is going on.

The percentage of Americans who own guns is much lower than just a few decades ago.
How do you know this? What is your source?

.
 
It's a simple fact that those advanced countries which have stricter gun laws than us have much, much, much lower homicide rates. This is a fact which is willfully ignored and denied by the likes of you.
Assume that gun laws actually have an effect on homicide rates (and not some other factor). You would be advocating the sacrifice of liberty for security, right?

.
I would be advocating protecting our rights by ensuring guns are only in the hands of law-abiding citizens.

If we keep doing things your way, it is just a matter of time before the death toll rises so high that America will repeal the second amendment..


How about 26 years of increasing gun ownership....
Nope. A smaller percentage of Americans own guns than 26 years ago.


Here's how it works:

Ten people own one gun each for a total of 10 guns.

Several years later, 2 people own 10 guns each for a total of 20 guns.

That's what is going on.

The percentage of Americans who own guns is much lower than just a few decades ago.
Lol
Yes, people in urban America on less fire arms and what they did only a few years ago. Rura
America owns more firearms than they did a few years ago.

Like I said, the vast majority of violence in this country is in progressive controlled urban America with extremely strict gun control laws. Why is that? Dolt
 

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