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There are not enough people in the market to make it competitive.You can still pick up the phone and get health insurance.We should be buying our health insurance the same way we buy our auto, home, and life insurance. I should be able to pick up the phone and call ANY insurance company in the country, and order the health insurance options that I want.No, government healthcare is the worst thing we could do.Yeah then when you have cancer and it will cost a fortune to treat you. You will get a pain pill to keep you comfortable the rest of your days.
Wait, are you referring to our system now? Sure sounds like it. I agree though, we can't have that type of system. Medical costs should never cause someone to go bankrupt, glad we can agree on that.
So you say. But reality says otherwise.
Where has there ever been a successful healthcare system that didn't have government involved? Our system is already the most privatized system of any 1st world country. So where is your proof?
I know you don't have any, but it's funny to ask and watch you ignore it.
This would give me far more leverage than we have now. You are hostage to whatever single insurance company plan your employer offers you. And a small employer has zero leverage with an insurance company. And the insurance company's leverage is weakened by being forced to work with a limited number of health care providers.
Employer-sponsored health insurance drives the health care cost curve UP!
What's more, the government has weaseled its way into the health care market and GETS TO WRITE THE RULES FOR ITS COMPETITORS.
How's that been working out?
And now, with ObamaCare, the government has taken over your health care even more. It tells you what you must buy, it is the gatekeeper to the exchange you must buy your insurance from if you can't get it at work, and it is the gatekeeper that decides which insurers get to be listed on the exchange.
"Sorry, you didn't contribute enough campaign cash to our committee."
At best, there were 25 million involuntarily uninsured Americans.ObamaCare was a classic bait and switch con.
That whole "not one dime" thing about deficits. That whole thing about bending the cost curve down. You had dumb rubes parroting propaganda about the US having the highest per capita health care costs in the Universe with the plain implication that ObamaCare would change that.
And yet there were obvious provisions which made it screamingly obvious ObamaCare had nothing to do with bending the cost curve downward. The employer mandate was the dead giveaway. And Obama personally pencil whipping the floor at which Cadillac plans would be taxed, raising it higher than at what the Democrats in Congress had set it.
Obama lied when he said BEFORE ACA was passed:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”
THE MYTH OF THE 46 MILLION
The truth behind everybody's favorite health care statistic.
The Myth of the 46 Million
Then he lied when he said: ""Up to half of all Americans have a pre-existing condition," Half would be 155 million people of the then 310 million.
Another grossly wrong outright lie! This gave the impression 155 million Americans were not able to get insurance!
1) 85% of Americans have coverage... that means 266 million so where in the hell did Obama come up with "half"?
2) Facts: a total of LESS THEN 1.5 million Americans who were denied health insurance or paid higher premiums due to pre-existing conditions.
Obama's Pre-existing Conditions Whopper
But remember Obama KNEW he had to lie and he counted on as his Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber who said that lack of transparency was a major part of getting Obamacare passed because “the stupidity of the American voter” would have killed the law if more people knew what was in it.
Obamacare Architect: Lack of Transparency Was Key Because ‘Stupidity Of The American Voter’ Would Have Killed Obamacare
So Obamacare was constructed out of lies and it was NEVER NEVER NECESSARY!
15 % still don't have insurance and probably never will. Or so they say. Who knows.ObamaCare was a classic bait and switch con.
That whole "not one dime" thing about deficits. That whole thing about bending the cost curve down. You had dumb rubes parroting propaganda about the US having the highest per capita health care costs in the Universe with the plain implication that ObamaCare would change that.
And yet there were obvious provisions which made it screamingly obvious ObamaCare had nothing to do with bending the cost curve downward. The employer mandate was the dead giveaway. And Obama personally pencil whipping the floor at which Cadillac plans would be taxed, raising it higher than at what the Democrats in Congress had set it.
Obama lied when he said BEFORE ACA was passed:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”
THE MYTH OF THE 46 MILLION
The truth behind everybody's favorite health care statistic.
The Myth of the 46 Million
Then he lied when he said: ""Up to half of all Americans have a pre-existing condition," Half would be 155 million people of the then 310 million.
Another grossly wrong outright lie! This gave the impression 155 million Americans were not able to get insurance!
1) 85% of Americans have coverage... that means 266 million so where in the hell did Obama come up with "half"?
2) Facts: a total of LESS THEN 1.5 million Americans who were denied health insurance or paid higher premiums due to pre-existing conditions.
Obama's Pre-existing Conditions Whopper
But remember Obama KNEW he had to lie and he counted on as his Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber who said that lack of transparency was a major part of getting Obamacare passed because “the stupidity of the American voter” would have killed the law if more people knew what was in it.
Obamacare Architect: Lack of Transparency Was Key Because ‘Stupidity Of The American Voter’ Would Have Killed Obamacare
So Obamacare was constructed out of lies and it was NEVER NEVER NECESSARY!
At best, there were 25 million involuntarily uninsured Americans.ObamaCare was a classic bait and switch con.
That whole "not one dime" thing about deficits. That whole thing about bending the cost curve down. You had dumb rubes parroting propaganda about the US having the highest per capita health care costs in the Universe with the plain implication that ObamaCare would change that.
And yet there were obvious provisions which made it screamingly obvious ObamaCare had nothing to do with bending the cost curve downward. The employer mandate was the dead giveaway. And Obama personally pencil whipping the floor at which Cadillac plans would be taxed, raising it higher than at what the Democrats in Congress had set it.
Obama lied when he said BEFORE ACA was passed:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”
THE MYTH OF THE 46 MILLION
The truth behind everybody's favorite health care statistic.
The Myth of the 46 Million
Then he lied when he said: ""Up to half of all Americans have a pre-existing condition," Half would be 155 million people of the then 310 million.
Another grossly wrong outright lie! This gave the impression 155 million Americans were not able to get insurance!
1) 85% of Americans have coverage... that means 266 million so where in the hell did Obama come up with "half"?
2) Facts: a total of LESS THEN 1.5 million Americans who were denied health insurance or paid higher premiums due to pre-existing conditions.
Obama's Pre-existing Conditions Whopper
But remember Obama KNEW he had to lie and he counted on as his Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber who said that lack of transparency was a major part of getting Obamacare passed because “the stupidity of the American voter” would have killed the law if more people knew what was in it.
Obamacare Architect: Lack of Transparency Was Key Because ‘Stupidity Of The American Voter’ Would Have Killed Obamacare
So Obamacare was constructed out of lies and it was NEVER NEVER NECESSARY!
About 7 percent of the population.
To fuck over the entire country because there were 7 percent involuntarily uninsured is one of the biggest boondoggles in the history of the world.
15 % still don't have insurance and probably never will. Or so they say. Who knows.ObamaCare was a classic bait and switch con.
That whole "not one dime" thing about deficits. That whole thing about bending the cost curve down. You had dumb rubes parroting propaganda about the US having the highest per capita health care costs in the Universe with the plain implication that ObamaCare would change that.
And yet there were obvious provisions which made it screamingly obvious ObamaCare had nothing to do with bending the cost curve downward. The employer mandate was the dead giveaway. And Obama personally pencil whipping the floor at which Cadillac plans would be taxed, raising it higher than at what the Democrats in Congress had set it.
Obama lied when he said BEFORE ACA was passed:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”
THE MYTH OF THE 46 MILLION
The truth behind everybody's favorite health care statistic.
The Myth of the 46 Million
Then he lied when he said: ""Up to half of all Americans have a pre-existing condition," Half would be 155 million people of the then 310 million.
Another grossly wrong outright lie! This gave the impression 155 million Americans were not able to get insurance!
1) 85% of Americans have coverage... that means 266 million so where in the hell did Obama come up with "half"?
2) Facts: a total of LESS THEN 1.5 million Americans who were denied health insurance or paid higher premiums due to pre-existing conditions.
Obama's Pre-existing Conditions Whopper
But remember Obama KNEW he had to lie and he counted on as his Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber who said that lack of transparency was a major part of getting Obamacare passed because “the stupidity of the American voter” would have killed the law if more people knew what was in it.
Obamacare Architect: Lack of Transparency Was Key Because ‘Stupidity Of The American Voter’ Would Have Killed Obamacare
So Obamacare was constructed out of lies and it was NEVER NEVER NECESSARY!
This was all a scam because the insurance companies lobbied the fuck out of Washington, giving millions to political parties to get this passed.
Now there is a scary thoughtIt's not access to affordable care. It's forced on people. And it's not any more affordable than it was before. It's just now you have to get it or pay a tax.We can only hope.
Just keep being the lemming you are, right over the cliff.
Yeah access to affordable healthcare for everyone will send us right over the cliff. Scary!!
I'm referring to us hopefully one day moving to a single payer system.
Great, lets make our health care like the DMV.
There are not enough people in the market to make it competitive.You can still pick up the phone and get health insurance.We should be buying our health insurance the same way we buy our auto, home, and life insurance. I should be able to pick up the phone and call ANY insurance company in the country, and order the health insurance options that I want.No, government healthcare is the worst thing we could do.Wait, are you referring to our system now? Sure sounds like it. I agree though, we can't have that type of system. Medical costs should never cause someone to go bankrupt, glad we can agree on that.
So you say. But reality says otherwise.
Where has there ever been a successful healthcare system that didn't have government involved? Our system is already the most privatized system of any 1st world country. So where is your proof?
I know you don't have any, but it's funny to ask and watch you ignore it.
This would give me far more leverage than we have now. You are hostage to whatever single insurance company plan your employer offers you. And a small employer has zero leverage with an insurance company. And the insurance company's leverage is weakened by being forced to work with a limited number of health care providers.
Employer-sponsored health insurance drives the health care cost curve UP!
What's more, the government has weaseled its way into the health care market and GETS TO WRITE THE RULES FOR ITS COMPETITORS.
How's that been working out?
And now, with ObamaCare, the government has taken over your health care even more. It tells you what you must buy, it is the gatekeeper to the exchange you must buy your insurance from if you can't get it at work, and it is the gatekeeper that decides which insurers get to be listed on the exchange.
"Sorry, you didn't contribute enough campaign cash to our committee."
EVERYONE should be buying their health insurance this way. Just like EVERYONE buys their auto insurance that way. Just like EVERYONE buys their home insurance that way. Just like EVERYONE buys their life insurance that way.
You don't see a government senior citizen auto insurance, do you? You don't see a government low income auto insurance, do you? "Sign up for AutoCare today!"
We need LESS government interference in the market, not more.
This was all a scam because the insurance companies lobbied the fuck out of Washington, giving millions to political parties to get this passed.
I agree we need less government interference but once they have the power they rarely if ever give it up.There are not enough people in the market to make it competitive.You can still pick up the phone and get health insurance.We should be buying our health insurance the same way we buy our auto, home, and life insurance. I should be able to pick up the phone and call ANY insurance company in the country, and order the health insurance options that I want.No, government healthcare is the worst thing we could do.Wait, are you referring to our system now? Sure sounds like it. I agree though, we can't have that type of system. Medical costs should never cause someone to go bankrupt, glad we can agree on that.
So you say. But reality says otherwise.
Where has there ever been a successful healthcare system that didn't have government involved? Our system is already the most privatized system of any 1st world country. So where is your proof?
I know you don't have any, but it's funny to ask and watch you ignore it.
This would give me far more leverage than we have now. You are hostage to whatever single insurance company plan your employer offers you. And a small employer has zero leverage with an insurance company. And the insurance company's leverage is weakened by being forced to work with a limited number of health care providers.
Employer-sponsored health insurance drives the health care cost curve UP!
What's more, the government has weaseled its way into the health care market and GETS TO WRITE THE RULES FOR ITS COMPETITORS.
How's that been working out?
And now, with ObamaCare, the government has taken over your health care even more. It tells you what you must buy, it is the gatekeeper to the exchange you must buy your insurance from if you can't get it at work, and it is the gatekeeper that decides which insurers get to be listed on the exchange.
"Sorry, you didn't contribute enough campaign cash to our committee."
EVERYONE should be buying their health insurance this way. Just like EVERYONE buys their auto insurance that way. Just like EVERYONE buys their home insurance that way. Just like EVERYONE buys their life insurance that way.
You don't see a government senior citizen auto insurance, do you? You don't see a government low income auto insurance, do you? "Sign up for AutoCare today!"
We need LESS government interference in the market, not more.
Compulsory auto insurance is decided at the state level, not the federal level.I agree we need less government interference but once they have the power they rarely if ever give it up.There are not enough people in the market to make it competitive.You can still pick up the phone and get health insurance.We should be buying our health insurance the same way we buy our auto, home, and life insurance. I should be able to pick up the phone and call ANY insurance company in the country, and order the health insurance options that I want.No, government healthcare is the worst thing we could do.
So you say. But reality says otherwise.
Where has there ever been a successful healthcare system that didn't have government involved? Our system is already the most privatized system of any 1st world country. So where is your proof?
I know you don't have any, but it's funny to ask and watch you ignore it.
This would give me far more leverage than we have now. You are hostage to whatever single insurance company plan your employer offers you. And a small employer has zero leverage with an insurance company. And the insurance company's leverage is weakened by being forced to work with a limited number of health care providers.
Employer-sponsored health insurance drives the health care cost curve UP!
What's more, the government has weaseled its way into the health care market and GETS TO WRITE THE RULES FOR ITS COMPETITORS.
How's that been working out?
And now, with ObamaCare, the government has taken over your health care even more. It tells you what you must buy, it is the gatekeeper to the exchange you must buy your insurance from if you can't get it at work, and it is the gatekeeper that decides which insurers get to be listed on the exchange.
"Sorry, you didn't contribute enough campaign cash to our committee."
EVERYONE should be buying their health insurance this way. Just like EVERYONE buys their auto insurance that way. Just like EVERYONE buys their home insurance that way. Just like EVERYONE buys their life insurance that way.
You don't see a government senior citizen auto insurance, do you? You don't see a government low income auto insurance, do you? "Sign up for AutoCare today!"
We need LESS government interference in the market, not more.
Do you remember when no one had auto insurance? Now it's a law. Is it a good law? I honestly don't know.
Nope......the Stimulus was before Obamacare. Massive government spending is the winner. Government intrusion into our lives. That's the winner.Clearly the winning and defining issue for the Gop. It's worked every time.
Look at the changes to the Social Security Act...
Look at the changes to the Social Security Act...
And it still sucks after nearly a century. Repeal Obamacare AND Social Security!
Repeal Obamacare AND Social Security!
Look at the changes to the Social Security Act...
And it still sucks after nearly a century. Repeal Obamacare AND Social Security!
Repeal Obamacare AND Social Security!
Modify Social Security.
anyone making over $100,000 annually after retiring doesn't need it.
If you paid in you should get your benefits, regardless of your income or net worth. It's not a welfare program.
Slowly raising the retirement age is more sensible.
If you paid in you should get your benefits, regardless of your income or net worth. It's not a welfare program.
Slowly raising the retirement age is more sensible.
Raising the retirement age is proof positive that nobody "pays in" to Social Security anymore than we "pay in" to the taxes that are used to build a highway on the other side of the country.
