Democrats, Biden White House, Oppose Bill Mandating Proof of Citizenship to Vote

[Moonglow]

Yeah, there is a Federal law. I already posted the case.

Try getting a driver's license in Missouri without proving citizenship.

 

[excalibur]

It is not against the law to ask someone if they are a citizen if you are an INS agent.

And that has nothing to do with voting. You know, the thing this thread is about.

 

[WEATHER53]

Anything that gets in the way of cheating they are opposed to. ID is a universal entity for one hundred years yet suddenly it’s too onerous .
That’s because, it stymies cheating

 

[Moonglow]

And that has nothing to do with voting. You know, the thing this thread is about.

If you don't get an ID or a DL as a citizen you can't vote it has everything to do with voting.

 

[Failzero]

If a 25 Year old Black woman in the Burbs of Chicago or In Oxnard or Ventura can get a CCW / CHL \ CWP ( Hand Gun Carry Permit ) then she can get a Voter ID

 

[excalibur]

Try getting a driver's license in Missouri without proving citizenship.

Has nothing to do with voting. Federal law doesn't permit asking for proof of citizenship to vote for Federal offices.

 

[Moonglow]

Has nothing to do with voting. Federal law doesn't permit asking for proof of citizenship to vote for Federal offices.

The states can and do.

 

[excalibur]

If you don't get an ID or a DL as a citizen you can't vote it has everything to do with voting.

LOL

In states where an ID is required to vote. There is Federal law requiring ID to vote.

 

[WEATHER53]

Has nothing to do with voting. Federal law doesn't permit asking for proof of citizenship to vote for Federal offices.

Voting includes the requirement of citizenship

 

[excalibur]

The states can and do.

No, they cannot, I pointed to the case on that. And Arizona as an example, if you cannot prove citizenship they will ONLY give you a ballot for Federal offices not state or local offices.

 

[excalibur]

Voting includes the requirement of citizenship

It merely requires you sign that you are a citizen, but the Federal law also says you cannot ask a person when they vote for proof they are a citizen under the presumption that when they signed the registration he didn't lie.

 

[Moonglow]

No, they cannot, I pointed to the case on that. And Arizona as an example, if you cannot prove citizenship they will ONLY give you a ballot for Federal offices not state or local offices.

So you use a passport to prove citizenship when you vote or register to vote?

 

[excalibur]

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Last week a federal court ruled in League of Women Voters v. Harrington that a former U.S. Election Assistance Commission official violated federal law in 2016 when he allowed three states – Alabama, Georgia, and Kansas – to require documentary proof of citizenship on the federal voter registration form ​

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In their lawsuit, plaintiffs argued that the proposed change to the federal voter registration form to require documentary proof of citizenship was unauthorized, violates federal law, and would deprive tens of thousands of voters of their fundamental right to vote and undermine the groups’ efforts to increase civic participation. Many American citizens don’t have a passport or birth certificate (Me: Birth certificates are very common, so BS), the most common types of document used to prove citizenship. A 2017 report found that in the first few years after the Kansas requirement was implemented in 2013, between 8% and 14% of new registrants were blocked (Me: Good, because most if not all had no right to vote or were trying to register under a false name).​

Federal Court Blocks “Proof of Citizenship” Voting Requirement | League of Women Voters

A federal court ruled that a former US Election Assistance Commission official violated federal law in 2016 when he allowed three states – Alabama, Georgia, and Kansas – to require documentary proof of citizenship on the federal voter registration form.

www.lwv.org

 

[Rawley]

Where do you live that you don't have to prove citizenship to vote in a federal election?

All states that use the Federal Voter Registration form. Best as I can tell 29 states.

 

[Rawley]

So you use a passport to prove citizenship when you vote or register to vote?

You can. Because you had to provide proof of citizenship to get the passport

 

[Rawley]

Try getting a driver's license in Missouri without proving citizenship.

Or a Real ID driver's license in any state

 

[WEATHER53]

It merely requires you sign that you are a citizen, but the Federal law also says you cannot ask a person when they vote for proof they are a citizen under the presumption that when they signed the registration he didn't lie.

It’s circular bullshit in order to allow illegal voting.
If you have to be something to participate in this very unique and Vitally Important once every 4 year event then proof you are elegible is entirely rational and proper. The presumption that the prior acts like filling out paperwork automatically conveys to this act is ludicrous.
When Trump wins USSC will be tasked with this again and get it corrected.

 

[Moonglow]

It’s circular bullshit in order to allow illegal voting.
If you have to be something to participate in this very unique and Vitally Important once every 4 year event then proof you are elegible is entirely rational and proper. The presumption that the prior acts like filling out paperwork automatically conveys to this act is ludicrous.
When Trump wins USSC will be tasked with this again and get it corrected.

Then why didn't the Founders require it?

 

[WEATHER53]

Then why didn't the Founders require it?

Why don’t we want unverifiables and thus cheating you “ask”.

 

[WEATHER53]

Then why didn't the Founders require it?

Massive immigration a non issue back then tard noggin
Why do libs pose “questions” about long ago while not comprehending that issues of 200 years ago are different than today?
Why-to troll and/or cry