Democrats in Meltdown: Chris Matthews Goes After Sanders

[Markle]

Please show us where President Donald Trump has promised to cut benefits to existing recipients of Social Security and Medicare.

Do you deny that both need modifications?

Perhaps you should change the channel and try reality. Even Forbes thinks you are a moron.

Trump's Second-Term Plan For Social Security: Starve The Beast
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Republicans Are Pushing Myths About Social Security - To Justify Their Demands For Benefit Cuts
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Aug 26, 2019 · Republican politicians want to cut Social Security. ... on

Please show us where President Donald Trump has promised to cut benefits to existing recipients of Social Security and Medicare.

When you have to thread the needle like this, you really do not have much of a defense. Truthfully with Trump what he supports changes daily, tweet by tweet.

No threading of any needle, or whatever.

Please show us all where: Please show us where President Donald Trump has promised to cut benefits to existing recipients of Social Security and Medicare.

Do you doubt that SS and Medicare need drastic reforms if they are to continue to exist?

And no I have not worried about them. AARP says Medicare going broke is the number one myth. And it has plenty of competition from all the other garbage GOP propaganda, super duper.

Trump's Second-Term Plan For Social Security: Starve The Beast
Aug 23, 2019 · The chief target of these proposed cuts is Social Security, which ... groups, Republican presidents have repeatedly attempted to cut or ...

Forbes
Republicans Are Pushing Myths About Social Security - To Justify Their Demands For Benefit Cuts
Aug 26, 2019 · Republican politicians want to cut Social Security. ... on

Is this a myth? Prove it!

 

[francoHFW]

All obstructed by the scumbag GOP who's lies you believe. The next white democratic presidents going to use the nuclear option. Obama was afraid to. But it's getting so obvious that the GOP is a sell-out to the rich it's gotten ridiculous. They have their reconciliation rule so they can cut taxes on the rich and benefits and services for everyone else with only 51 votes. While Democrats need 60 votes how to pass reform. Democrats had 35 days with 60 votes in the last 50 years lol. Stop with the garbage GOP propaganda.

LOL, I supported 90% of what Candidate Obama stood for. I supported 10% of what President Obama actually did. He was too lazy to accomplish anything. The minimum wage never moved under his eight years but the stock market sure did.

He had the best opportunity anyone will likely ever have to change the direction of the country and he blew it. I get tired of the total blame being put on the GOP. That simply was not the case. I stated no lies. They had two years to get things done. Obama had a huge popularity rating. He could have accomplished a ton if he had actually wanted to do the right thing. He decided he wanted to be another corporate Democrat that started wars.

Your argument is to not bother as no matter who we elect they can do nothing. Trump doesn't have 60. Are you saying he is doing nothing?

no they did not have two years with 60 votes, they had 35 days and session and it was all spent on Obama care. Who knew the Massachusetts was so stupid as to elect Scott Brown? Once again you believe crap GOP propaganda. Wake up and smell the coffee. Google fact left the demise of the middle class and the mess of the democratic supermajority. No wonder you are a Republican now. Or you might as well be.

If Obama could not accomplish anything with high approval ratings, 59 in the Senate and the House no one can ever accomplish anything. If he was so weak as to not get a single vote that is not a very encouraging idea to even bother.

How many times do I have to tell you the GOP can do all they want which is cut taxes on the rich and services for everyone else because they have that ridiculous reconciliation rule and no shame. They know their propaganda machine can get 45% of the country to believe anyting just like you. Obama couldn't get a single vote from the lock step bought off scared to hell Republican party because they are a disgrace not him. But the next democratic president will use the nuclear option and then dare the Republicans of the Future 2 repeal living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. Try reality.

They will do things like that if it's Sanders, not if it's Biden or Bloomberg or really any of the others than maybe Warren.

I'm for Sanders too, but it is not that cut and dry

 

[francoHFW]

LOL, I supported 90% of what Candidate Obama stood for. I supported 10% of what President Obama actually did. He was too lazy to accomplish anything. The minimum wage never moved under his eight years but the stock market sure did.

He had the best opportunity anyone will likely ever have to change the direction of the country and he blew it. I get tired of the total blame being put on the GOP. That simply was not the case. I stated no lies. They had two years to get things done. Obama had a huge popularity rating. He could have accomplished a ton if he had actually wanted to do the right thing. He decided he wanted to be another corporate Democrat that started wars.

Your argument is to not bother as no matter who we elect they can do nothing. Trump doesn't have 60. Are you saying he is doing nothing?

no they did not have two years with 60 votes, they had 35 days and session and it was all spent on Obama care. Who knew the Massachusetts was so stupid as to elect Scott Brown? Once again you believe crap GOP propaganda. Wake up and smell the coffee. Google fact left the demise of the middle class and the mess of the democratic supermajority. No wonder you are a Republican now. Or you might as well be.

If Obama could not accomplish anything with high approval ratings, 59 in the Senate and the House no one can ever accomplish anything. If he was so weak as to not get a single vote that is not a very encouraging idea to even bother.

How many times do I have to tell you the GOP can do all they want which is cut taxes on the rich and services for everyone else because they have that ridiculous reconciliation rule and no shame. They know their propaganda machine can get 45% of the country to believe anyting just like you. Obama couldn't get a single vote from the lock step bought off scared to hell Republican party because they are a disgrace not him. But the next democratic president will use the nuclear option and then dare the Republicans of the Future 2 repeal living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. Try reality.

They will do things like that if it's Sanders, not if it's Biden or Bloomberg or really any of the others than maybe Warren.

I'm for Sanders too, but it is not that cut and dry

And Warren is the only one who says she will go nuclear on this stuff.

 

[pknopp]

LOL, I supported 90% of what Candidate Obama stood for. I supported 10% of what President Obama actually did. He was too lazy to accomplish anything. The minimum wage never moved under his eight years but the stock market sure did.

He had the best opportunity anyone will likely ever have to change the direction of the country and he blew it. I get tired of the total blame being put on the GOP. That simply was not the case. I stated no lies. They had two years to get things done. Obama had a huge popularity rating. He could have accomplished a ton if he had actually wanted to do the right thing. He decided he wanted to be another corporate Democrat that started wars.

Your argument is to not bother as no matter who we elect they can do nothing. Trump doesn't have 60. Are you saying he is doing nothing?

no they did not have two years with 60 votes, they had 35 days and session and it was all spent on Obama care. Who knew the Massachusetts was so stupid as to elect Scott Brown? Once again you believe crap GOP propaganda. Wake up and smell the coffee. Google fact left the demise of the middle class and the mess of the democratic supermajority. No wonder you are a Republican now. Or you might as well be.

If Obama could not accomplish anything with high approval ratings, 59 in the Senate and the House no one can ever accomplish anything. If he was so weak as to not get a single vote that is not a very encouraging idea to even bother.

How many times do I have to tell you the GOP can do all they want which is cut taxes on the rich and services for everyone else because they have that ridiculous reconciliation rule and no shame. They know their propaganda machine can get 45% of the country to believe anyting just like you. Obama couldn't get a single vote from the lock step bought off scared to hell Republican party because they are a disgrace not him. But the next democratic president will use the nuclear option and then dare the Republicans of the Future 2 repeal living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. Try reality.

They will do things like that if it's Sanders, not if it's Biden or Bloomberg or really any of the others than maybe Warren.

I'm for Sanders too, but it is not that cut and dry

And yet it is.

 

[francoHFW]

Says it all.

That's communism, brainwashed functional moron LOL. Socialism is like Bernie wants Warren wants and they have and every modern country but us thanks to the scumbag GOP and silly dupes like you. "We are all socialists now!"--the president of Finland after Obamacare passed. Ask a socialist for Christ's sake. The UK and the United States are the most Savage capitalists through centuries and conflate socialism and communism in English speaking countries. Everybody else knows what socialism and communism are. They actually have the parties. Or did -Communism is dead except in countries where they have a gun to your head China North Korea and Cuba to be exact

 

[francoHFW]

no they did not have two years with 60 votes, they had 35 days and session and it was all spent on Obama care. Who knew the Massachusetts was so stupid as to elect Scott Brown? Once again you believe crap GOP propaganda. Wake up and smell the coffee. Google fact left the demise of the middle class and the mess of the democratic supermajority. No wonder you are a Republican now. Or you might as well be.

If Obama could not accomplish anything with high approval ratings, 59 in the Senate and the House no one can ever accomplish anything. If he was so weak as to not get a single vote that is not a very encouraging idea to even bother.

How many times do I have to tell you the GOP can do all they want which is cut taxes on the rich and services for everyone else because they have that ridiculous reconciliation rule and no shame. They know their propaganda machine can get 45% of the country to believe anyting just like you. Obama couldn't get a single vote from the lock step bought off scared to hell Republican party because they are a disgrace not him. But the next democratic president will use the nuclear option and then dare the Republicans of the Future 2 repeal living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. Try reality.

They will do things like that if it's Sanders, not if it's Biden or Bloomberg or really any of the others than maybe Warren.

I'm for Sanders too, but it is not that cut and dry

And yet it is.

They just will do it more slowly with Biden. Doesn't matter the difference with the scumbag idiot Gris a****** GOP is like night and day. The Democrats have to get aggressive when they get power. Time for the nuclear option. Included some kind of fairness doctrine to get rid of the propaganda machine. Is a total disgrace and incredibly destructive total lies cannot be allowed. At least there has to be a debate on everything. just like the good old days before Reagan f*** that up to o...

 

[francoHFW]

Perhaps you should change the channel and try reality. Even Forbes thinks you are a moron.

Trump's Second-Term Plan For Social Security: Starve The Beast
View attachment 305782
Aug 23, 2019 · The chief target of these proposed cuts is Social Security, which ... groups, Republican presidents have repeatedly attempted to cut or ...

Forbes
Republicans Are Pushing Myths About Social Security - To Justify Their Demands For Benefit Cuts
View attachment 305783
Aug 26, 2019 · Republican politicians want to cut Social Security. ... on

Please show us where President Donald Trump has promised to cut benefits to existing recipients of Social Security and Medicare.

When you have to thread the needle like this, you really do not have much of a defense. Truthfully with Trump what he supports changes daily, tweet by tweet.

No threading of any needle, or whatever.

Please show us all where: Please show us where President Donald Trump has promised to cut benefits to existing recipients of Social Security and Medicare.

Do you doubt that SS and Medicare need drastic reforms if they are to continue to exist?

And no I have not worried about them. AARP says Medicare going broke is the number one myth. And it has plenty of competition from all the other garbage GOP propaganda, super duper.

Trump's Second-Term Plan For Social Security: Starve The Beast
Aug 23, 2019 · The chief target of these proposed cuts is Social Security, which ... groups, Republican presidents have repeatedly attempted to cut or ...

Forbes
Republicans Are Pushing Myths About Social Security - To Justify Their Demands For Benefit Cuts
Aug 26, 2019 · Republican politicians want to cut Social Security. ... on

Is this a myth? Prove it!

neither are other secretaries of State like condoleezza and Powell who did the same thing with emails as Hillary did. This is a new email revolution especially after the Russians hacked the DNC and podesta ones and wrecked the election, brainwashed functional moron.

 

[francoHFW]

no they did not have two years with 60 votes, they had 35 days and session and it was all spent on Obama care. Who knew the Massachusetts was so stupid as to elect Scott Brown? Once again you believe crap GOP propaganda. Wake up and smell the coffee. Google fact left the demise of the middle class and the mess of the democratic supermajority. No wonder you are a Republican now. Or you might as well be.

If Obama could not accomplish anything with high approval ratings, 59 in the Senate and the House no one can ever accomplish anything. If he was so weak as to not get a single vote that is not a very encouraging idea to even bother.

How many times do I have to tell you the GOP can do all they want which is cut taxes on the rich and services for everyone else because they have that ridiculous reconciliation rule and no shame. They know their propaganda machine can get 45% of the country to believe anyting just like you. Obama couldn't get a single vote from the lock step bought off scared to hell Republican party because they are a disgrace not him. But the next democratic president will use the nuclear option and then dare the Republicans of the Future 2 repeal living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. Try reality.

They will do things like that if it's Sanders, not if it's Biden or Bloomberg or really any of the others than maybe Warren.

I'm for Sanders too, but it is not that cut and dry

And yet it is.

Not black and white like that. Except for the fact that a couple of them will do the nuclear option and others may not. I'm sick of the 60 vote for reform rule from the GOP of course.

 

[Markle]

neither are other secretaries of State like condoleezza and Powell who did the same thing with emails as Hillary did. This is a new email revolution especially after the Russians hacked the DNC and podesta ones and wrecked the election, brainwashed functional moron.

A little deep in the bottle? Who has even mentioned emails?

 

[francoHFW]

Please show us where President Donald Trump has promised to cut benefits to existing recipients of Social Security and Medicare.

When you have to thread the needle like this, you really do not have much of a defense. Truthfully with Trump what he supports changes daily, tweet by tweet.

No threading of any needle, or whatever.

Please show us all where: Please show us where President Donald Trump has promised to cut benefits to existing recipients of Social Security and Medicare.

Do you doubt that SS and Medicare need drastic reforms if they are to continue to exist?

And no I have not worried about them. AARP says Medicare going broke is the number one myth. And it has plenty of competition from all the other garbage GOP propaganda, super duper.

Trump's Second-Term Plan For Social Security: Starve The Beast
Aug 23, 2019 · The chief target of these proposed cuts is Social Security, which ... groups, Republican presidents have repeatedly attempted to cut or ...

Forbes
Republicans Are Pushing Myths About Social Security - To Justify Their Demands For Benefit Cuts
Aug 26, 2019 · Republican politicians want to cut Social Security. ... on

Is this a myth? Prove it!

neither are other secretaries of State like condoleezza and Powell who did the same thing with emails as Hillary did. This is a new email revolution especially after the Russians hacked the DNC and podesta ones and wrecked the election, brainwashed functional moron.

Social security liability is b*******.

 

[there4eyeM]

What is the "liability" for so-called defense (which is collective)?
The victory in WWII was won with what kind of system?

 

[IM2]

Twitter is on fire after Chris Matthews went after Bernie Sanders last night, conjecturing on an MSNBC panel that he would be shot down in Central Park should the Revolution happen--ie, should Bernie's brand of "socialism" be instilled.

This is a full-on Democrat panic. I could go into details but I suspect I don't need to. Bernie can't win a general election and will not, and yet, it looks unlikely that the Dems will be able to win without the Bernie Bros, since many of them will not vote for a "centrist".

How much metaphorical popcorn can a human ingest in about nine months, anyway?

'Socialism doesn't frickin' work!' — Chris Matthews stuns MSNBC panel with rant against socialism

No you couldn't go into anything but a republican propaganda laced tired of fake news. You don't even really know what socialism is and Chris Matthews is ignorant of it also. Totalitarianism is not socialism and that's what Matthews described. Like I said, people like you talk like all those prognosticators that predicted the 49ers would beat the Chiefs before the game started. When the democrats get a nominee and they start ripping trump to shreds, you'll understand that you ejaculated prematurely.

"That's not true Socialism". The inevitable argument when it fails.

It's the argument that comes when a person describes a totalitarian government with socialism and ignores all the democracies on earth that have operated sucessful socialist economies.

 

[playtime]

I didn't sit out. I voted for Jill Stein. Go ahead, nominate Bloomberg. You will see history repeat itself.

m'k.... a protest vote by going third party. look what that got america.

lol.... i voted for nader in 2000. i learned my lesson.

I will always vote for the best candidate. Period. There is an ever growing number just like me.

Democrats in Meltdown: Chris Matthews Goes After Sanders

<psssst>

chris matthews isn't as important as you think.

Who said he was important? Your post here makes no sense.

creating a thread about him & anything that he might have said about
<insert name here> in a discouraging way like it would influence anybody at the polls for starters.

 

[playtime]

I will always vote for the best candidate. Period. There is an ever growing number just like me.

Democrats in Meltdown: Chris Matthews Goes After Sanders

<psssst>

chris matthews isn't as important as you think.

Hilarious watching the blue on blue cat fight.

it's called 'election season'.

until the (D) candidates start comparing hand & dick sizes, i wouldn't talk.

Maybe that's you liberals problem....Once you get your dick out of your hands, and start realizing that destroying America so that you can rebuild it as a Socialist hell hole, then you might have a chance....Until then, I love the meltdown show you idiots are putting on for us...

Maybe that's you liberals problem....
i certainly lean left - but i'm not as liberal as you may think.

Once you get your dick out of your hands,
haaa...........i'm female, was born female, have it posted on my profile, so your ASSumption makes that statement pretty funny & ignorant as hell.

and start realizing that destroying America so that you can rebuild it as a Socialist hell hole,
you're such a drama queen

then you might have a chance....Until then, I love the meltdown show you idiots are putting on for us..
delusional thinking is something you & donny have in common. what a good little basket dweller you are!

 

[playtime]

Are you going to actually make some argument of where Obama and Sanders differed?

Bernie is going to raise taxes. He has said as much. I know you Sanders lovers want to make him into Obama but he's not. And Bernie wants to dismantle Obamacare, he opposed trade deals that Obama proposed and really his opposition to wall street isn't even the same as Obamas. Obama did not propose free college education. You can say that all the democrats running proposed things Obama proposed because some things are long held democratic party beliefs, but Sanders did not propose the exact same things as Obama.

Any one is going to have to raise taxes. We are 23 Trillion in debt. Why do you support massive programs that are never paid for?

When are people going to step up and start paying the trillions the wars are costing us?

Here is where you and I part ways. I agree we are 23 trillion in debt. Taxes are not the answer. Spending reductions are.

a few less nukes might do it along with rescinding them thar tax cuts the uber rich don't really need. tell me what did the rise in the inheritance tax (b4 anything is paid on ) - from 11 million to $22,000,000.00 do for you exactly?

What did it do to you?

are you kidding? it's not just 'me'..... that nearly trillion dollar 'permanent' tax cut hasta be paid for somehow. the few bucks that show up in paychecks now - are only temporary. i love how the poorly educated keep bending over & asking for more.

 

[playtime]

Bernie says he has no problem being called a Communist, why do you care?

Bernie has never agreed to being called a communist you lying sack.

Liar....

"In 1972, Sanders, then a gubernatorial protest candidate for the socialist Liberty Union Party, visited an alternative high school in Rutland, Vermont, to give his campaign pitch. During a question-and-answer session, Sanders, then 31, brushed off accusations of being a left-wing radical.

"I don't mind people coming up and calling me a communist," Sanders said. "At least, they're still alive."

Bernie Sanders in 1972: 'I don't mind people calling me a communist'

Yawn! You support a man hell bent on becoming a dictator. STFU.

Yawn! You support a man hell bent on becoming a dictator. STFU.

Is that why you support gun confiscation? You are a dictator supporter obviously.

Only GOP brainwashed functional morons believe anybody who counts is for confiscating guns except from felons

 

[playtime]

Who votes for a socialist?

Ignorant kids.

everyone in the modern world votes for socialists except for brainwashed functional moron Republican voters who say socialism is communism. the English-speaking world is totally misinformed on what a socialist is at this point. The UK and America have been the most Savage capitalist assholes and propagandists forever. Period. Breaking... The Cold war is over, communists lost, socialists won.

No, they vote for Socialism also. Wait until you see the uproar if Trump actually tries and cut their S.S.

Not that he is. He puts stuff like this out to get his base all pumped up but doesnt do it. Not that they care.

^ '... Wait until you see the uproar if Trump actually tries and cut their S.S. Not that he is...'

ya, he is.

Trump expected to ask for $2 billion in funding for border wall, make cuts to medicare, medicaid, and social security in 2020 budget
Trump expected to ask for $2 billion in funding for border wall, make cuts to medicare, medicaid, and social security in 2020 budget

&


https://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SBC Trump Budget Reaction 3-20-19 FINAL.pdf

 

[playtime]

It's as I've said for a long time. The Democrats are noting that Sanders isn't actually a Democrat. What that is saying is that outside of a few social issues there is very little differences in the Democrats and Republicans.

Sanders is basically running on Obama's platform. Matthews had tingles running down his leg when Obama said the things Sanders is.

It's sad to now understand how many understood that when Obama said them, they were all a lie.

What I said is pretty easy to understand.

Pretty easy to understand that that is ridiculous. Democrats are for a living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great vacations and infrastructure and taxing the rich and giant corporations their fair share and the GOP is not. The GOP is also against a comprehensive immigration bill with ID card that would end this long-running GOP scam.

the house had bills - most if not all of what you described - passed & sent over to the senate for turtleboy to bring to the floor & debated. he refuses to do that for any of them.

 

[playtime]

It's as I've said for a long time. The Democrats are noting that Sanders isn't actually a Democrat. What that is saying is that outside of a few social issues there is very little differences in the Democrats and Republicans.

Sanders is basically running on Obama's platform. Matthews had tingles running down his leg when Obama said the things Sanders is.

It's sad to now understand how many understood that when Obama said them, they were all a lie.

What I said is pretty easy to understand.

Pretty easy to understand that that is ridiculous. Democrats are for a living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great vacations and infrastructure and taxing the rich and giant corporations their fair share and the GOP is not. The GOP is also against a comprehensive immigration bill with ID card that would end this long-running GOP scam.

It's too bad they addressed none of that under Obama. Yes, they said they would.

the (R) party of nononononooooooooooooooooo for 6 of the 8 yrs he was prez made that virtually impossible.

 

[Mac-7]

It's as I've said for a long time. The Democrats are noting that Sanders isn't actually a Democrat. What that is saying is that outside of a few social issues there is very little differences in the Democrats and Republicans.

Sanders is basically running on Obama's platform. Matthews had tingles running down his leg when Obama said the things Sanders is.

It's sad to now understand how many understood that when Obama said them, they were all a lie.

Sanders is not running on Obamas platform.

Ending wars. Health care for all. Affordable education. Lessen the influence of big business on the government.

He absolutely is. It's just that Obama was lying.

Affordable education huh?

are you going to cut the salary of college professors and lower tuition?