Democrats need to put up or shut up on Trump.

[Nuthin' Fancy]

is that all you know----how to deflect, AND deny?
laugh at that shit stain--

IF YOU ONLY HAD A BRAIN

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

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And so early in the morning, yet!
But there it is above folks.
A demonstration of the professionalism taught at Trump University's School of Communications. And, in ALL CAPS, too!

Why is that so many folks from Trump University, and/or so many folks who inhabit MAGA-stan are incoherent, inarticulate, and resort so frequently and so predictably into vulgar profanity?

It's a puzzler to me. I know lots of Trump supporters. Very very few of them express themselves in the manner our Trump U. students on this USMB venue do?
Where does that anger come from?
Sometimes they seem barely in control of themselves.
Let alone their communicating.

I try to imagine how other....sane, prudent, thoughtful ....Trump supporters must feel when they see who else is on their side., e.g., this cohort of Trump University grads that post on USMB.

I'm not sure that the chatrooms of AtomWaffen or StormFront or Conspiracies.win has such a collection of folks who struggle with basic English communicating. I'm convinced not all Trump supporters are under-educated, or badly parented.

Just sayin'.

Breakfast egg.
Fried, of course.

 

[konradv]

This Trump persecution demonizing whatever has to end. Stop. When Democrats tried to destroy a popular political rival in this weird obsessive compulsive way, without any rational proof and some of you just accept it... Lets see impeached trump TWICE, with out any proof. No problem? January 6 hearing led by primarily Democrats, without any proof? No problem. Raid Mer-A-Lago with secret hidden subpoenas because He "might have done stuff"? I am getting tired of pointing out how fucking idiotic the democrats ARE.

What’s your rush? Things aren’t going to be swept under the rug because of some arbitrary time constraint. If time was of the essence, why didn’t Trump ask for a Special Master before the raid?

 

[jc456]

You're a moron.
Why would a country or foreign company pay US tariffs?

tariff, also called customs duty, tax levied upon goods as they cross national boundaries, by the government of the importing country. The words tariff, duty, and customs can be used interchangeably. Tariffs may be levied either to raise revenue or to protect domestic industries,

I asked if you ever worked with commercial invoices?

 

[jc456]

What’s your rush? Things aren’t going to be swept under the rug because of some arbitrary time constraint. If time was of the essence, why didn’t Trump ask for a Special Master before the raid?

That’s the DOJ job

 

[jc456]

You're a moron.
Why would a country or foreign company pay US tariffs?

tariff, also called customs duty, tax levied upon goods as they cross national boundaries, by the government of the importing country. The words tariff, duty, and customs can be used interchangeably. Tariffs may be levied either to raise revenue or to protect domestic industries,

My company covers costs of tariffs!

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I asked if you ever worked with commercial invoices?

YES.
WTF does THAT have to do with tariffs?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

My company covers costs of tariffs!

Of course, you did, you moron.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

That’s the DOJ job

NO, it isn't.
WHO made the request?
Wasn't the fucking DOJ, it was Trump.

 

[jc456]

YES.
WTF does THAT have to do with tariffs?

Then you haven’t. You wouldn’t ask that question.
Commercial invoices state who pays the tariff. Presented to customs. It’s either the shipper or receiver Responsible.

 

[jc456]

NO, it isn't.
WHO made the request?
Wasn't the fucking DOJ, it was Trump.

I’m not litigating this. The DOJ could have to show it was legal.

You think trump knew about the raid? Hahaha it wouldn’t have been a raid then!

 

[BWK]

I’m not litigating this. The DOJ could have to show it was legal.

You think trump knew about the raid? Hahaha it wouldn’t have been a raid then!

It was never a raid.

 

[konradv]

That’s the DOJ job

No, it isn’t the job of the DOJ to assert Trump’s rights. That’s why he pays lawyers.

 

[BWK]

What outrageous behavior?
I’m a conservative myself and former Reagan Republican. For me the biggest challenge to answering your question would be to limit it to just one policy. So I won’t try.
Trump immediately started a trade war that actually increased the trade deficit. By the end of 2018, we had lost almost 2,000 American manufacturing plants and about 300,000 jobs as businesses closed or moved overseas. American farmers went bankrupt as Russia supplanted the US as the chief importer of soy into China. The tariffs increased the cost of vital manufacturing components which led to heightened inflation. A carryover effect of that has been that the domestic manufacturers that didn’t close reduced their inventory of such components in hopes that the tariffs would end and their costs would decrease, and this is a contributing factor to the product shortages we have now. That’s one policy.
In the 26 months between Trump’s tax bill and the economy’s peak before the pandemic, economic growth slowed by about two-thirds. Between Obama’s recovery act and the tax bill, the Dow grew at an average of 16.2% annually. After the tax bill that dropped to 5.8%. Before the tax bill, unemployment was dropping by about .75% annually. After the tax bill, about .25% annually. In 2019, the Fed lowered interest rates for the first time since Bush was President to combat the slowing economy, and Trump himself complained that they didn’t commit to do more to prevent a recession. And the Trump recession officially began in February 2020 while Trump was still pretending the pandemic was a Democratic hoax. That’s two.
Starting in 2019, Trump began undermining our operations in Afghanistan. That began with an invitation to the Taliban to a private meeting at Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11. That meeting was changed after outrage from both sides of the aisle. Nevertheless, Trump insisted on meeting with Taliban leaders outside the presence of the legitimate Afghan government, and negotiated with the Taliban rather than Afghan leaders about the future of the country after the American withdrawal. Trump promised and secured the release of 5,000 Taliban terrorists being held prisoner in Afghanistan including more than 150 that had been sentenced to death, 44 who were known to be involved in high profile attacks against US forces, and the mastermind of the deadliest attack of the entire occupation. Then he committed to a withdrawal date about 100 days after he knew he’d be out of office. A few days after he was determined to have lost his re-election bid, he announced that before leaving office he would reduce our troop presence to its lowest of the entire occupation. This drew so much criticism from all sides that Congress passed the National Defense Authorization Act, which in part barred the removal of any troops from Afghanistan prior to Inauguration Day. Trump vetoed this bill, and his veto was easily overridden even as his own party controlled the Senate at the time. Then five days before leaving office, he illegally withdrew the troops anyway in knowing violation of the law. That’s number three.
Of course we can’t skip the pandemic. The Obama administration left a robust pandemic response team in place, but all accounts are that Trump was completely disinterested in understanding the threat posed by a potential viral outbreak, and instead immediately started dismantling the team. In 2017, Trump's budget request called for massive cuts in spending on scientific research, medical research, and disease prevention, cutting $1.2 billion from the CDC, $82 million from the center that works on vaccine-preventable and respiratory diseases, making a 17% cut to CDC’s global health programs that monitor and respond to disease outbreaks around the world, and cutting 10% from the CDC’s office of public health preparedness and response. Former CDC director Tom Frieden described the administration's CDC request as “unsafe at any level of enactment. Would increase illness, death, risks to Americans, and health care costs.” In 2018, Trump fired homeland security adviser on the NSC Tom Bossert, whose job included coordinating the response to global pandemics. Bossert was not replaced. That same year, his biodefense preparedness adviser warned that a flu pandemic was the country’s number one health security threat, and the U.S. was not prepared. Rear Adm. Tim Ziemer, the NSC's senior director for global health security and biodefense, left the council and was not replaced. Luciana Borio resigned as the NSC's director for medical and biodefense preparedness policy and was not replaced. By 2019, an independent study reported that the US was not prepared for a pandemic. Biden responded to the report by criticizing the Trump administration’s dismantling of the pandemic response team. Again, this is months before Covid-19 was even discovered. Trump then spent 23 of the first 69 days of 2020 on vacation, repeatedly downplaying the pandemic before declaring it a national crisis on day 70. Despite that, he refused to develop a national strategy to slow the spread, instead going on the offensive against state and local officials working to protect their communities. As a result, by the end of 2020, hundreds of thousands of businesses had permanently closed, 75% of schools were closed, and unemployment was over 6%. That’s number four.
Trump was by far the most wasteful President in modern history. He grew the deficit every year he was in office—a feat not even GW Bush accomplished. He wasted billions on an idiotic border wall (and shut down the government for the longest time in history because his own party wouldn’t fund it). He wasted millions if not billions rebranding part of the Air Force to look like Star Trek cosplayers. When he should have been investing in making the country safe for commerce during the pandemic, instead he borrowed trillions to prop up the stock market and to pay people to not work. He would become the first President in history to maintain a debt to GDP ratio over 100% for his entire term, added more to the national debt in four years than Bush 41 and Bush 43 added in their twelve years combined, and added more in one year than Reagan added in two full terms. That’s number five.
Trump consistently undermined our national security by siding with hostile dictators against our own intelligence agencies, by holding private meetings with Putin, by tweeting classified photos, by ordering the assassination of an Iranian general in violation of international treaties, by sabotaging our operations in Afghanistan (as described previously) and by diverting money from national defense to fund his idiotic wall. That’s number six.
Does attempting to subvert our elections count as a “policy” or is that just a crime? What about spending a century of Presidential salaries on golf trips? How about appointing racists, criminals, unqualified campaign donors and his own children to positions in his administration? How about pathologically lying every time he opened his mouth? Are any of those “policies”? Because those were all harmful to our democracy. And if you notice, I didn’t even need to bring up the mean tweets.
So in short, Trump was a complete disaster for the US in every way imaginable. The best way for America’s enemies to try to hurt the country would have been to help Trump gain power. And obviously Putin was smart enough to realize that early on. It’s too bad that so many Republicans still haven’t figured it out themselves.

Take an honest look at trump instead of spouting the company line.

I'm not a Republican, but I could vote for BoBob. The guy is honest. That carries a lot of weight for me.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Then you haven’t. You wouldn’t ask that question.
Commercial invoices state who pays the tariff. Presented to customs. It’s either the shipper or receiver Responsible.

BS.
They don't provide that information on bills of lading.
WTF does a trucker need to know that?

 

[jc456]

BS.
They don't provide that information on bills of lading.
WTF does a trucker need to know that?

Ahh see, evidence you have no clue!

Invoices are part of the shipper’s package. Truckers would have I at pick up!! Hahaha

 

[MagicMike]

Experience in the Swamp usually means you are a Swamp critter. The Swamp also protects its own.

It may be impossible to clean up the Swamp in which case I fear this nation is doomed. If so, I can hope the breakup is peaceful and not bloody.

Trump IS the swamp!

 

[jc456]

Trump IS the swamp!

Now that’s hilarious. It’s obvious you don’t know what the swamp.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I’m not litigating this. The DOJ could have to show it was legal.

Isn't that's what judges are for?
IF the search warrant WAS illegal, any 2nd year law student, could prove it wasn't.
Guess that's why Trump's lawyers can't prove the warrant was illegal.

You think trump knew about the raid? Hahaha it wouldn’t have been a raid then!

WTF?
What does THAT have to do with a special master?

 

[jc456]

Isn't that's what judges are for?
IF the search warrant WAS illegal, any 2nd year law student, could prove it wasn't.
Guess that's why Trump's lawyers can't prove the warrant was illegal.

WTF?
What does THAT have to do with a special master?

It’s what bias judges who are corrupt do, illegal searches